@Mezmero said:
@Daroki: Is it really necessary to compare something written in the 80's to something from 2009? I keep telling people to brace themselves for Jojo's insanity because it's just a constant ramp up from the start. Let's just take solace in the weekly schedule and enjoy the breather while we can. Anyways the 80's were all about making stuff as intense and harrowing as possible. Just look at Die Hard and Cobra.
I'm not comparing it timewise, I'm comparing it in intensity. And JJBA is showing itself as something that's powerful and overwhelming while Steins;Gate is something I felt you needed to really sink into and surround yourself with in order to really get it. I'm loving that I caught this show as it was coming out and have no ability (and could have no desire) to push through large chunks of it, while with Steins;Gate, I would hold off watching it and watch a months worth of episodes at a time. JJBA is amazing, it's got an immediate pull and drags you in because everything seems so important, immediate, and fraught with peril. I see what's made it go on for so long. I compare the two because they have opposite effects on me, for opposite reasons, and I like both, Steins;Gate enough that it was one of my five favorite anime of last year (with Chihayafuru, Tiger & Bunny, Mawaru Penguindrum, and Usagi Drop also on the list). The comparison's meant as high praise.
@rubberluffy said:
@Daroki said:
And from earlier in the thread. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is the anti-Steins;Gate. I thought Steins;Gate needed to be watched in three to four episode chunks, where I don't think more than one episode of Jojo's is possible for my brain to handle. I nearly ragequit the series after hearing the beginning of the ending theme, until I heard Jon Anderson's voice and realized they weren't going to try to Jpop "Roundabout". I agree that it's super intense all the time, and I'm happy that there's a nice on-ramp to the whole Jojo's thing since I've been interested in checking it out but where the hell do you start?
Almost everything in JJBA is a reference to some band/song/album. Hell, having a Yes song for the ending is extra funny since the episode tomorrow is gonna introduce a character named Bruford.
And speaking of JJBA, I've been rereading the manga and am almost caught up to where I quit reading years ago, partway through Part 4 Diamond Is Unbreakable. Since someone is retranslating all of it to fix the glorious Duwang scans from years ago, it's much easier to figure out exactly what is going on in Part 4. Also it's really made me think about how, despite really liking the anime so far, Part 1 is really the weakest part that I've read. I'm glad the anime seems to breezing right through it and should be at Part 2 by episode 8 or 9, since P2 is just leagues better in pretty much every way.
And there's the super-obvious Speedwagon reference. I looked up Wikipedia and found that there are references like that sprinkled throughout the show that means that the people making it know what they're dealing with. I just figured when hearing that opening synth riff that I was going to get some strange Jpop remake of a song that's older than I am, and was about to put my foot down forcefully on it's throat. And then the anger was gone, and I could only laugh as I could relax and let some childhood memories of songs that my parents, uncles, and aunts would listen to come back to me. I guess I'm thankful for that sensibility and the people making the anime recognizing it and feeding into it.
And it gets better? Is this something that starts good and gets even better? Perish the thought... :)
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