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#1 Edited By haunts

Hey I wanted to make a thread where we could talk about upcoming streams for Street Fighter 4 (if there is already one, I'm sorry I didn't see it!). I don't know about you guys but if I am not streaming a tournament myself, Im usually sitting at home like a bum watching them all day long. Beyond that, there are so many SF4 streams going on these days sometimes I miss out on them. So now we have a thread to talk about the players, the commentators, tournaments and everything else that goes along with streaming.

I've made a list of the most popular channels out there currently -- feel free to let me know if I forgot any or if any new ones are popping up these days.

USTREAM CHANNELS

FADC LIVE - Frame Advantage Dot Com Channel

East Coast Tournament Coverage

IPLAYWINNER - Official iPlayWinner Channel

Keystone II
Haunts vs The World
NorCal Tournament Coverage

JARED REA - Mr Jareds Channel

Mr. Jared vs The World

JUSTIN TV CHANNELS

HOUSE OF CICADA

GET YOUR TOURNAMENT

SoCal Tournament Coverage
Wednesday Night Fights

JAPANESE STREAM CHANNELS

NAGOYA STREET BATTLE LIVE

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#2 Edited By haunts

Accepting SF4 PSN matches and streaming them live - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iplaywinner

14 years ago

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#3 Edited By haunts

I think you CAN DP Blanka balls on reaction but you have to have really good reactions.. As far as Ken goes I dont know.. If he is near the corner you can probably like EX Tatsu or Kara-Fireball his ass but mid screen I have no idea..

oh yeah if you guys wanna play me: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iplaywinner

XBL Only for tonight...

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@demontium said:

" @haunts said:
" @demontium said:
I just think Rufus is too good for me maybe. "
Well Sagat is just a hard match up to begin with. If you like Rufus just stick with him and learn the match up. If you're having problems with Sagat that is no reason to drop your character. The only characters that can really give him problems are Akuma, Ryu, Abel and Dhalsim...and another Sagat of course. "
Whats so dangerous about Akuma, Ryu, Abel, and Dhalsim. "

Akuma: Multi Hit Fireballs are a pain to deal with when in fireball fights. EX Demon Flip is really fucking annoying. Far Round House can be looped over and over again on Sagat and leads to dizzies virtually everytime. Once he gets a throw you're pretty much fucked because of his wake up game. He has a teleport which allows him to get out of a lot of situations. Thankfully he takes damage like a little bitch so as long as the Sagat player can land two combos on him the round is usually yours.

Ryu: Just an all around solid character. He has better pokes and a faster walking speed so his footsie game is generally much better than Sagats and this can lead to disaster if you let him in on you. If you mistime a fireball he can jump RH into sweep which puts you in an untechable situation where he can do a lot of mix ups. It's pretty even match really imo but a solid Ryu is still very hard to deal with.

Abel: Can get in very easily and shuts down a lot of Sagats special move options. Also once he is in he can avoid Tiger Uppercuts and bait like crazy and dish out a ton of damage in return. Granted, the Abel player has to be really on point and have a good guessing game going and thats one of his main weaknesses. If the Abel player is a little hesitant, a couple RH to the face and an uppercut or two and he is donezo the clown -- slap a wig on him!

Dhlasim: It's just really hard to get in on Dhalsim. His moves individually dont do a lot of damage, but you will eat a lot just trying to get at him. He can also push you into the corner using FP and Yoga Fire which can severely limit your options as a Sagat player. Insta air teleport mix ups can be pretty frustrating as well. Luckily he takes a lot of damage much like Akuma so if you can get in and get off a combo or two it will turn around the match for you.

... Rufus on the other hand.. He's such a big target you're jsut going to run into high Tiger Shots and roundhouses all day. Also without meter there is NOTHING you can do about good Sagat sughing you down. With out EX Messiah he cant get out of the tiger knee trap so you'll just have to expect to take a lot of damage the first round and hope to turn it around with a lucky Ultra if they make a mistake. It's such a dumb match up really.

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#5 Edited By haunts

@demontium said:

I just think Rufus is too good for me maybe. "

Well Sagat is just a hard match up to begin with. If you like Rufus just stick with him and learn the match up. If you're having problems with Sagat that is no reason to drop your character. The only characters that can really give him problems are Akuma, Ryu, Abel and Dhalsim...and another Sagat of course.

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@tiwi said:

" I'm having problems learning how to fight Ryu/ken/fireballdudes as cammy. I focus dash through their fireballs and use the hooligan combo to get close, but they always seem to use a dragonpunch or HP/HK to get me away from them. I keep getting punched back time and time again, and even when i manage to build up a supermeter to execute a EX Hooligan I still always seem to time it a little to late and they manage to duck and dodge the jump. WHAT CAN A DO? also any other simple tips for a "scrub"cammy player? "

Shotos and Sagat can def give Cammy a lot of problems by keeping her out, esp if the player knows her tricks. For one, I think EX Hooligan doesnt work that well even against intermediate players. You should probably save your meter for FADCing Cannon Spike.

My suggestion is keep working your way in slowly, and do your best to land a throw. Once they are on the ground you can start a mean wake up game with her by combining tick throws, ambiguous Cannon Strikes and even just waiting and baiting Dragon Punches. That is really one of the first things you should try -- once they are on wake up, jus tthrow out a jab and walk backwards, see if they flinch and throw out a dragon punch. Once you've got them on the defensive, whiffing throws and attacks, you can punish them pretty hard each time.

@demontium said:

" @haunts: I will humble down my post because I know you've got experience. Let me take this chance to first and foremost apologize for that horribly wrong post. I have a question about rufus. I need some jump-in help. A lot of times I see really good ruf players spam falcon kicks, like Wong for example. Anyways, whenever i do that, I know my timing is spot on, but people find ways of crouching + punching or SRKing outta the linking kicks. IDK what I should do when I jump in, i usually like to HP, stand HP, G tornado (or EX messiah kick > cancel Ultra). That always does good damage but better players can stop it easily. Any thoughts. Sorry and thanks. "

No worries, you dont have to like me, but if we're in a street fighter thread id rather us just talk about the game.

I play Ricky Ortiz a lot and he is probably just as good as any other top player Rufus and he really annoys the hell out of people with constant dive kicks. What you may want to do is first off before going in right off the bat, sit back and build meter first off until you've got about 2-3 stocks locked and loaded. That will make your offense far more intimidating then just going in with no meter. Beyond that, if you do end up eating a throw/dp/whatever you will have a plan B to get them off you. Also remember the first round is all about feeling out the opponent and seeing what they like to do so dont feel like you have to go buckwild right off the bat.

Once you start and offense though just see what they like to do after the first dive kick. A lot of good players will mix up between S.LK after the Dive Kick, A throw or another Dive Kick... Those and EX Messiah kick are generally speaking all the options you're looking at. Also, if they like to jump away I -think- you can do jump fwd RH to catch them into EX Snake Strike.

Anyway, if you pressure them and see they keep going for throws, just counter it (I think s.lk will beat the throw or another dive kick will for sure). If they like to DP, just block, bait the DP and punish.

This is a big part of Street Fighter -- reading your opponent and conditioning them to do certain things and then punishing them hard. If you can work on that then you will take your game far.

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#7 Edited By haunts

Oh yeah, ustream link for future reference (we dont always post streams on the front page): http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iplaywinner

also, in this tournament, if you guys watch the whole thing, check out Filipino Champ (SETH/DHALSIM), 200 YEN (SAGAT), Hiro (BLANKA) and MASARAP (RYU)

@thatpinguino said:

" @Stang: yeah i am likeing what i'm seeing of guy considering fuerte and fei are my two favorites. Was adon any good in 3rd strike cause i like what i see of him but in a preview seth killian mentioned that adon was difficult and had no easy wins. "

So far Adon kinda sucks. X(

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#8 Edited By haunts

btw, dont mean to be a douche and spam my site but we're running a stream today, tournament starts in like another hour or so: http://iplaywinner.com

@thatpinguino said:

" Here's a question, I main Fei Long and I have had a hard time using him competetively. Unfortunately there aren't many pros that use Fei Long and as such there aren't many vids to learn from. Do you have any tips for Fei Long? Also I am probobly going to swich main's once super comes out if Fei doesn't get some sort of boost, which of the new characters have a similar feel, (mid range, agressive)? "

I realyl dont have a ton of tips -- just make good use of his normal moves like c.mp and c.fp, but each match up is different I guess. If you like playing him, I say stick with him and keep grinding but you will probably want to learn some other character that is more solid jsut as a back up.

You might want to look into Abel, he can cause a lot of problems from mid to close range, he is also real tricky like fei long is as well.

In Super, like Stang said, you'll probably like Guy. He has some great Chain combos, devastating airgrab, can cancel into his super off some pretty basic combos for big damage -- he is going to be awesome! Although for me Juri is who I enjoy playing the most so far -- I think she is going to be pretty hard to use in the long run though. You may like her though cause she can play an agressive close range game but also has a lot of zoning tools such as her fireball and dive kick (armor breaking, woop!)

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@PantyshotMQN said:

" What would you say is your worst matchup? A character you (personally) know you are going to have a difficult time with? Like for example, Cammy players should not have any trouble against Zangief. I, on the other hand, do. lol "

Lately... for me... ummm... Abel and Chun Li.... For Abel I have a real hard time keeping him away from me and Tiger Shot games are virtually useless. He can roll udner my Tiger Knees and roll to avoid uppercuts. A good Abel wont roll into a range where you can counter him and up close he forces you to guess in a lot of situations.

Chun Li has a fast wlaking speed and great normals, so similar type of thing, once she gets in I have a hard time keeping her off me, but she is easier than Abel imo. You can at least zone her with Tiger Shots (until she gets an Ultra anyway) and she takes a lot of damage and has a lot of moves that can be FAed for big damage.

So yeah, right now abel is my main problem.. not really sure how to deal with a high level one..

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#10 Edited By haunts

@Leo said:

" @haunts: Hey, do you have any advice for me as a new player trying to improve? Is it worth my while to try and complete the trials and stuff, or would I be better off just grinding it out in PSN matches? Also, are there any characters that are better for starting out with? So far, I've used mostly Chun Li and Sagat, and I've had... um... limited success. Thanks a lot! "

Your best bet is probably playing online, watching videos of top players and try to see what they do each match that gets them the wins. Trials are okay but you can get wins just by solid spacing and timing -- you dont even need combos although they certainly do help. I just think it's better to get a solid foundation and strong understanding of your normal moves and how to use them at what ranges first.

As far as characters, Sagat is ridiculously hard to learn and be proficent with just becuase he is so slow and requires super strict spacing on pretty much everything he does. I think Ryu and Balrog are really good for beginners -- Ryu has a fast wlaking speed, tools for virtually every situation and will help you grasp pretty much all aspects of SF4. Balrog has really strong normals, some good anti-airs, and once you learn his combos they are some of the easiest in the game.

BTW, this isnt a knock on Ryu or Balrog players, every character at a high level is pretty hard to use but I think as far as easing into SF4 they are your best bet.

PS: If you are interested in sticking with Sagat, I can answer pretty much anything about his game and every match up.

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