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@LaserLambert said:

@Brenderous: but hey come on, the British were the ones colonizing, they were imperialist pigs spreading their influence wherever they could cram it, sure we eventually became that after the civil war, but come on.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION *hatchet cracking skull*

The PR of the Founding Fathers made that a fighting slogan that every 3rd grader in America knows, but they knew the reality. Even if they HAD gotten representation, what do you think the collective power of the colonies would have been in Parliament? Do you think it would have been enough to stop the taxation...the taxation necessary to subsidize all those British troops keeping France and other colonial powers out of British holdings?

@peEtr said:

@jakkblades said:

He can't be 100% native. His dad must've been Italian.

...Yes he can be 100% native. Then later he impregnates an Italian lady who is a descendant of Ezio. Family trees are not straight up and down.

Yeah I was thinking I had missed something. I've seen this sentiment elsewhere in response to this news as well as other things involving generational stories (in comics most recently). Seems people kinda forgot you generally need TWO people to have a baby, and sometimes the inlaws...gasp...might have some cool people up the ladder too.

@TzarStefan said:

Rofl... Why is he native American? Apache assassins is fucking dumb.

Given the degree of success for their guerilla campaign against a vastly superior force I think an Apache assassin would be awesome. Then again, given this is the Revolutionary War, a member of an East Coast Native American tribe is more likely than the American Southwest Apaches.

@TeflonBilly said:

YES!

EDIT: Finally, there's that quest out of the way.

I can't wait to get my Daniel Day Lewis in Last Of The Mohicans on. I hope we'll be witness to the formation of the Culper Ring among other cool covert things that happened during the Revolutionary War.

Wouldn't it be more Chingachgook?

@TeflonBilly said:

@huser said:

No you have the ability to be obtuse, but I can see how that might be conflated.

The question was whether an alternative definition of the word was the intended one. Given the average person wouldn't even be AWARE of such an archaic definition, let alone have it be the dominant one in mind, then I think it's fair to question if it's relevant in the least. Particularly in the context provided here in regards to "rape that bitch", not your sterilized hypothetical example.

But in the quote from the original article, it WAS used in a context much like the one I made. On screen, in a video game, Player 1 was beating the shit out of Player 2 who was playing Phoenix who is a much scorned character due to being overpowered who just happens to be a woman, when somebody in the audience decided to cheer on Player 1, by telling him to keep "RAPING THAT BITCH". You could make the argument that the fact that Phoenix is a woman makes it problematic, however I really don't think you'f have a different reaction if it was Wesker and he was as overpowered and scorned in MvC3 that Phoenix is.

Hell, when PR Balrog trounced Viscant's Phoenix with Tron Bonne at the final at EVO last year with a Level 3 Super, my thoughts were probably in the same vein as well. I know I marked out.

Fair enough. I'm certainly willing to accept people use "rape" on more than just the defeat of female players or characters, for me the second part of the phrase is the telling one and makes it especially troubling. I mean "making someone your bitch" isn't exactly a rare comment in this context either. So while your example speaks to the actual physical context, Player 1 beating Player 2, the actual diction flavors the interaction a lot beyond that particular context. Even if it's INTENDED to be gender neutral (and frankly due to demographics it probably is on some level), it speaks to a greater cultural blindness.

I will say I appreciate the civil tone, these comments have gotten to Fallout apocalyptic levels.

@High_Nunez said:

@huser: With all due respect, I don't see how that applies here. Insulting a person isn't the same as killing a person. Neither is a cool thing to do, but one's definitely less cool than the other.

The point was that people have died (and continue to within the US) based on the hate contained on insults to ethnicity, gender, or sexuality. Sometimes truly horrifically. When the hate that leads to pointing out someone is wearing glasses, their height or weight leads to them being murdered, THEN we can wonder why we don't compare those insults more equally.

That's not to excuse THOSE insults. They are no less hateful, they just don't carry the obvious historical and even current mortal danger that the first group does.

@Mechabolic said:

@Hailinel: "deplorable person being defended, or white-knighted, by people within the community?"

I agree, two wrongs don't make a right. I only find a problem when both sides refuse to take a step back and say "Hey, let's get the whole picture before we start the hate train". Like I said, this is just tabloid tier journalism by Patrick. When his twitter said that he wanted to be Destructoid to the punch with this article then all bets are off. I've seen TONS of streams with Aris so I was surprised Capcom decided to let him on a REALITY show and even more suprised when people that say they are from the FGC go "omg, Aris is so meen~! ;-;". At least Aris responded to all of this even though people in the FGC like Wong and MikeZ said it was all in good fun, nothing malicious about any of this.

@huser: Ok, so you are painting her as this delicate flower that can't defend herself and has to resort to defensive mechanisms? And they call Aris misogynistic!

Uh, you are asking her to go up against her coach in public while the rest of her team is trying to compete. That kind of situational pressure has broken a whole lot of people made of stern stuff so no I'm not characterizing Miranda as a delicate flower, but you know a human being.

Nice attempt to deflect though.

@TeflonBilly said:

@huser said:

@Ett said:

@Barrock: You do know that the word rape have more one meaning.

anactofplunder,violentseizure,orabuse;despoliation;violation:therapeofthecountryside.

The word rape has nothing too do with a sexual act in fighting scene and all with the destroying of you opponent.

Really? I'm fairly sure that if you ASKED people after using the word what the definition of that word was...you'd get the more obvious one and not the one related to rapine.

Yeah, cause after I see someone perfect their opponent with some godlike combos in a fighting game and an onlooker points out "Wow, Player 1 completely raped Player 2" I immediatly start wondering where the penetration on screen was?

Nah, I guess I have the ability to not be so anal about being literal

No you have the ability to be obtuse, but I can see how that might be conflated.

The question was whether an alternative definition of the word was the intended one. Given the average person wouldn't even be AWARE of such an archaic definition, let alone have it be the dominant one in mind, then I think it's fair to question if it's relevant in the least. Particularly in the context provided here in regards to "rape that bitch", not your sterilized hypothetical example.

@High_Nunez said:

This whole story got really boring really fast. Anyway, I've always found it weird that it's taboo to insult people if they're gay, female, and non-white, but it's totally okay to insult them for any other reason. Always seemed inconsistent to me.

I suppose the day you could get lynched or burned at the stake for having poor eyesight and needing glasses, being a little heavy, or not being tall, this particular issue might be more analogous to slights against gender, sexuality or ethnicity, where people have literally died for those issues.

@Grimluck343 said:

Today I learned everyone on the internet is a saint, and everyone in the fighting game community endorses rape.

No one gets better by grading against the "F's" of the world.