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Dear male adolescent Giantbomb.com members.

I notice that a significant number of you think that it is a good idea to go on video game message boards and open up sad, pathetic threads about what you perceive is the mythical, magical creature of "girl". Clearly, you think, this is the place to do that. 


 

Seriously. You're embarrassing yourselves. Look, there are many awesome internet places that were made to help and support you in this strange world, like relationship health.  There are nice guys and gals eager to listen to your stories and views and help you out. 
 
Please. It's physically painful.
 

 

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This thread has degenerated into petty arguments and personal attacks, as I suspected it would. Nothing to see here, move along, move along.

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In principle I agree with you. But some times they are pretty fucking funny.

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HEY! I'm not doing that!

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@SeriouslyNow: I would consider myself one to some extent as well. I have been exposed to feminist theory for six years at university and it is one of the many critical approaches that have influenced me, to descend to the realm of uninteresting anecdote that you refuse to leave instead of producing an argument - I still don't know what kind of thinking you find offensive or what your definition of feminism is. I didn't feel the need to go into the theoretical niceties of such theory (such as whether one wishes to base it on equality or radical difference) because it is the internet and as there is discrimination involved it doesn't require much to produce an effective argument against it. I've read about a dozen threads on that topic and they have not simply just been tasteless or offensive. "What you can see": key quote, you haven't seen what I have. I have seen arguments being posited that men are superior to women, objectifying contempt and so forth - that's what prompted my comments.
Why bother going to this length just to defend the forum status quo? Are you that committed to keeping the level of discourse down where it is presently? Don't answer, I don't give a fuck. As for the rest, it's your usual attacking nonsense that has all the sins you're happy to diagnose in others: intellectual self-satisfaction, moral superiority, ignoring someone else's position, etc. Anyways I'm bored of this so I'll part with a Pie-esque musical interlude.  
 


 


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@Meowayne: When I talk to girls I just pretend I am the crocodile hunter. Works everytime.... to get a lawsuit.
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@owl_of_minerva said:
" @SeriouslyNow: Anecdote and ad hominem in the place of argument. You're neither a woman nor a feminist so until a feminist wishes to respectfully disagree with anything I've said, you can't speak for them. As I said, this issue for me is one of respectful speech and discrimination (which applies to all people) and not the gender issue in its abstraction. That should have been clear from the analogies I drew, but whatever. Enjoy beating up the straw man you've constructed. "
More bullshit only more erudite this time around.  Keep ignoring my point of view and deny my capability to be a feminist because that's your only shaky leg to stand on.  I AM a feminist, I have been involved in feminist rallies and I don't subscribe to the view that acting respectfully equates to telling other people how to think even when there's valid reason to complain.  Nobody is being discriminated as far as I can see.  Sure, some childish threads have opened up regarding personal taste but in no way are these discriminatory.  Tasteless maybe and maybe even offensive to some (who've yet to complain) but certainly not discriminatory.  
 
Grow the f up and stop pretending to care for women when all you're really doing is showboating to get laid.  You're not impressing anyone.
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Dear male adolescent Giantbomb.com members 
 
Did you know that many girls on the internet post as guys to divert unnecessary and/or sexist attention from themselves? 
 
Solution: Hit on the male gamers.
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@FluxWaveZ said:
" @TurboMan said:
" How is your text so big? "
It's a pic, dawg. "
Yea dawg!
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@psyborg0815 said:
" @Sweep said:
"This thread made me laugh.  However, women are no laughing matter. They cannot be trusted. "
That made me laugh.    Also: Stop whining about sad, pathetic threads on a forum. That's sad and pathetic. "
Dude.
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To the original poster and anyone who shares his plight : Don't read the relationship threads.
 
To all of the children with lady problems, I have a video for you : 
 
 

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 so i looked at this girl from across the library and i think she winked at me, well im not sure, or maybe she just farted.  I think we're destined for everlasting, eternal and visceral love that can not be broke by anyone, including the likes of bowser or ganon.  So now may I pose the question...or should I pop the question.  Yes, I am free during lunch and after third period band class.  So when should I do it...today, tomorrow, in trig, at wendy's, under a bridge, on top of a mountain, or even in the depths of mordor?????  Please, oh please, giantbomb let your opinions echo the halls of my o so hollowed school grounds.   
 
Also, on a side note, Wendy Stantonmeirsbrigs passed me a note saying "Do You Like Me?"...there are three boxes.  What should I check?  Yes....No.....MAYBE!?!?!?!!1111

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@9cupsoftea said:
" Wow, who'd have thought we'd have 6 pages and still not have reached a consensus. "
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@SeriouslyNow: Anecdote and ad hominem in the place of argument. You're neither a woman nor a feminist so until a feminist wishes to respectfully disagree with anything I've said, you can't speak for them. As I said, this issue for me is one of respectful speech and discrimination (which applies to all people) and not the gender issue in its abstraction. That should have been clear from the analogies I drew, but whatever. Enjoy beating up the straw man you've constructed.
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@DystopiaX: 
 
Oh, they're peppered here and there. When I typed more, I meant "WoW OT more". Like page one littered with Religion, and Political themed threads, separated with the usual "Ask a _____" thread. I have not been to that board in 8 months now, so maybe it's changed, but that's how it went down for years.
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@Meowayne: @psyborg0815:  hi im bsmith from the playstationshow.com 
@Bloviator:  hi im bsmith from the playstationshow.com 
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@uniform said:
" No topics bother me here. This board is swiftly mirroring the World of Warcraft Off Topic forum, a forum I am very used to. All it needs is more topics pertaining to Religion, and Politics.   "
It has politics. There have been at least 2 immigration ones in the past week or so.
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I actually don't know if they're trolling or not.

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@owl_of_minerva said:
" @SeriouslyNow:  The vast majority of users on here are male so you cannot expect to have a massive turnout of women to raise or defend themselves on this issue - there are concrete instances of female users being offended but that's not the point. Even if there were no women to ever use this forum my position remains the same. I am not here to speak for women in general, I'm speaking my own mind on a pattern of posting I personally find low and offensive. Your argument is fallacious because it's not just about the reactions of women but something that affects the community as a whole (users such as myself and Meowayne for ex.).  It invites sexism and it's against the ToS, there's nothing to debate.Someone who is male can be offended by this just as easily because such comments are trolling, same as inviting homophobic or racist generalisations about a large group of people. Your individualising ideology is not enlightened, in fact it is the opposite of any kind of worthwhile politics: the misguided notion that the rights of the individual outweigh their obligation to treat others respectfully. It sounds like an argument for postmodern intolerance as long as one speaks one's mind about his or her prejudices.Frankly, I think such a position indicates a complete regression from modern standards of discourse. Get that shit off the forum's collective lawn. "
Pandering.  Offensive pandering with a haughty sense of being morally correct.  Take you moralising and spread the word, brother.  It won't work on me.  I've actually been on feminist marches and feminists would think you a caveman.
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No topics bother me here. This board is swiftly mirroring the World of Warcraft Off Topic forum, a forum I am very used to. All it needs is more topics pertaining to Religion, and Politics.  

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@JJWeatherman said:
"As long as it's all kept in the "off-topic" section, it's not really an issue. Anyone can turn off or on each major forum, so you could just turn that one off.  But yeah, I kinda agree at the same time that it's dumb. "


I agree.
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Thank you for making this thread, OP.
 
No sarcasm. Even reading the titles when checking the front page is painful. Some memorable occurences:
 
''ARE GURLS ABLE TO BE ASEXUAL!?''
 ''I*wall of text*''
''WHY DOESN'T SHE RESPOND AFTER I CALL HER 60 TIMES
''HALP I DUN UNDERSTAND WIMMINZ''

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*siiiiiiiiiiiiiigh*

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Bewbs

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Listen, if any female was genuinely offended by any of these threads, then she has absoloutley nothing of worth going on in her life to get upset about otherwise. Seriously! I admit I've bitched a bit about the girl-centric threads, mostly because they're silly and I'm embarrassed for those who start them. But that doesn't mean I'm at all offended by tits or porn or guys asking dumb questions. It's a forum.... on a gaming site.... who gives a f*? Honestly. I'm here for the game talk, not to argue about stuff like this. Step outside the door away from your computer for a while, go out into the world and it is there you will find real conflict. This stuff here? It's harmless and all in good fun. If you don't like reading the threads, simply don't click on them. You can usually tell the subject matter from reading the.... oh, I don't know... the subject?

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@Dysrianism said:
" @Unknown_Pleasures said:
" @Dysrianism said:
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@owl_of_minerva said: a lot of stuff

 It's a forum. On the internet. In the off topic section.  Don't take things so seriously "
The internet is serious business. "
I want to say something related, but instead I'm just going to say you have pretty good music taste. Tom Waits and Joy Division? Good on you sir. "
Thank you sir.
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Hey we're not all pathetic.

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what is dis gurl?///111

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@owl_of_minerva: I suspect your a woman pretending to be a man. Why would you do this? So we take your opinion seriously and don't just ask for naked pictures of course. 
 
Well you're not fooling me back in the kitchen with you.
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@Unknown_Pleasures said:
" @Dysrianism said:
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@owl_of_minerva said: a lot of stuff

 It's a forum. On the internet. In the off topic section.  Don't take things so seriously "
The internet is serious business. "
I want to say something related, but instead I'm just going to say you have pretty good music taste. Tom Waits and Joy Division? Good on you sir.
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******:-/ <- Marge Simpson smiley disapproves of this thread.

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@Dysrianism said:
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@owl_of_minerva said: a lot of stuff

 It's a forum. On the internet. In the off topic section.  Don't take things so seriously "
The internet is serious business.
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@owl_of_minerva said: a lot of stuff

 
It's a forum. On the internet. In the off topic section.
 
Don't take things so seriously
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@SeriouslyNow:  The vast majority of users on here are male so you cannot expect to have a massive turnout of women to raise or defend themselves on this issue - there are concrete instances of female users being offended but that's not the point. Even if there were no women to ever use this forum my position remains the same. I am not here to speak for women in general, I'm speaking my own mind on a pattern of posting I personally find low and offensive. Your argument is fallacious because it's not just about the reactions of women but something that affects the community as a whole (users such as myself and Meowayne for ex.).  It invites sexism and it's against the ToS, there's nothing to debate.
Someone who is male can be offended by this just as easily because such comments are trolling, same as inviting homophobic or racist generalisations about a large group of people. Your individualising ideology is not enlightened, in fact it is the opposite of any kind of worthwhile politics: the misguided notion that the rights of the individual outweigh their obligation to treat others respectfully. It sounds like an argument for postmodern intolerance as long as one speaks one's mind about his or her prejudices.
Frankly, I think such a position indicates a complete regression from modern standards of discourse. Get that shit off the forum's collective lawn.
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What's sad and pathetic is the fact you feel the need to tell people what they should or should not talk about in an off topic forum. Get off your high horse. I find those topics insufferable too, that's why I don't take them seriously.

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Wow, who'd have thought we'd have 6 pages and still not have reached a consensus.

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@simian said:
"If it's in off-topic they have every right to exist and be ignored as extends to this thread as well (it's right to exist, not it being ignored). "

This.
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@dudeglove said:
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In posting that are you saying your relationship with Justin isn't going so well?
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@owl_of_minerva said:
" @owl_of_minerva said:
"And let us all remember these important words: this is a website...about video games. "
T If they aren't malicious and harmful, then it's nothing...
They are malicious and harmful, and sexism is against the terms of service. Maybe you haven't been following the threads that much lately, check out "why does Giantbomb have no female reviewers", "What are women thinking?", the titty threads on Alpha Protocol and Red Dead Redemption, "do women watch porn",  "how do you prefer woman", or the one mocking a girl for writing a poem. There's a flood of this crap lately, and until it gets moderated, it's valid complaint. The point of my quote about it being a website focused primarily on video games is that it's obviously going to be terrible for relationship advice anyway, and all these threads do is incite garbage posting exploiting the moral grey area of gender relations from a largely male demographic. I haven't gone out of my way to post in every one of those threads what I thought, but they should not exist. If GB has any female readership after today, I think it's an issue that needs to be addressed quickly. "
Bullshit.  I love when people try and think for other people.  The only people who have the right to complain in this regard are women who feel offended and that is on a case by case basis and is not to be some sort of blanket rule which subjugates the right to free thinking.
 
If there are women who are offended, please, speak up and complain but as this is a thread made by a male with mostly males commenting, it's just an excercise in pandering and it's frankly offensive.  Pandering to what you think women will find offensive is actually sexism personified because it carries with it the lie that women cannot protect themselves.  Drag your knuckles out of the middle ages please, you're offending my modern sensibilities.
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I love this.  So one itinerant egotist who's barely out of adolescence himself is now telling other people how to act.  Meowayne, you're not impressing anyone.

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@JJWeatherman said:
" @RandomInternetPerson said:
" -        - O       O       I       O "
That's awesome. Too bad it's scrambled when quoted.  : (      <---That's the extent of my face making abilities. "
Oh well!
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If it's in off-topic they have every right to exist and be ignored as extends to this thread as well (it's right to exist, not it being ignored).

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@RandomInternetPerson said:
" -        - O       O       I       O "
That's awesome. Too bad it's scrambled when quoted.  : (      <---That's the extent of my face making abilities.
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I would add to this all the stupid questions about "how to get into the industry". Nobody gives a shit.

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this thread is equally as dumb

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I don't mind them. They remind me of my adolescence.  Besides, you can watch a stand-up comedian complain about how they don't understand the opposite sex, or you can read the same gags here.  There's no difference in my mind.  It's all harmless fun as long as it doesn't get too offensive.  Too often, gamers try and be all "white knight" about it but that doesn't solve anything either.  Complain about women, then complain about people complaining then a complaint about the complainers complaining...wow, what a bunch of whiners.  I count myself among all these, of course.  
 
Sometimes, people aren't looking for advice but just feel a need to vent.  To feel they aren't alone in their uncertainty and to connect with similar individuals.  I don't think there is anything pathetic about it since it's part of the human condition. 

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@Sweep said:
" This thread made me laugh.  However, women are no laughing matter. They cannot be trusted. "
But they can be used make food and sex with. Ammirite. 
 
...ammirite? 
 
@Meowayne: While I agree with you, I also figure that if they are posting on a video game forum on how to operate a female, they are screwed from the get-go, unless one of our numerous female members responds with advice that will actually work.
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It's really not that much of a problem here.  If someone is foolhardy enough to throw the task of non-bias advice out to a bunch of strangers and actually act upon said advice then more power to them.  However, this newfangled display of naivity falls under Off-Topic.  Get over it, girlfriend!

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@BiffMcBlumpkin said:
" Most women love having things put into their assholes when they're asleep, even silly fun things like a live cricket. The way to a woman's heart is through her slumbering asshole. "
Truer words have never bee spoken.
 
 
Also, Gaming nerds = Bad relationship advice.   (mostly)