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Right now I haven't really listened to a Bombast in at least 5 months. For the first time I am 99% sure I am cancelling my sub...s...

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XBox Live...Yes, Paying Is A Big Deal

By sammo21 239 Comments

Short post on this, solely because it was brought up by a friend:

Why do we still pay to be able to play on Xbox live and why do people defend it so vigorously? Not only do we pay for XBox Live, the price was just hiked up $10 for no real reason at all. Is it because of Last.FM? Well, I don't use that so if so you can have that back. Is it because of Netflix? My iphone, my laptop, my computer, my PS3, and pretty soon my 3DS will support Netflix and I don't pay extra for it. I already pay to use Netflix as it is, why are we paying Microsoft? Do you think that paying for Xbox Live means you are getting enhanced security, because you aren't...paying for XBL and not paying for PSN has nothing to do with hacks or infrastructure. This is a horse that I've beat for years and defenders never give good reasons as to why.

Sometimes you'll hear "because we get party chat and all the xbox live video content". Again, how about you take that back? I don't want your crappy Zune store, I don't use Last.FM, I don't give a crap about any of your original (and bad) video content. If I am seeing ads for cars, food products, the army, and whatever else shows up why exactly do we fit the bill the at the end of the day? I wish Microsoft would just let people play online and use the features in the box, not gas tax us to death.

My friend, whom I mentioned previously, is getting a free Xbox 360 because of the deal Microsoft has when you buy a new Windows 7 PC with a student account. When I mentioned he'll have to get XBox Live to even play online he asked me why and I had no real explanation but the real sad thing? Neither does Microsoft. Take all your other junk back Microsoft. I thought paying the extra $10 for games this generation went towards stuff like that? Apparently not, but xbot fanboys keep defending it and the rest of us (yes, I'm including myself in there) just conform and move along. Why not have gold give you exclusive access to ESPN and whatever else they want to add. Making it to where I have to pay money to even have full access to a title I already paid $60+ or making me pay to watch Netflix...which I already pay for? I would say we can change it by making our voices heard and actually effecting XBL by refusing to pay and dropping subscriptions, but no one would do that all...so I guess we're doomed. Either take the lumps and don't know why or play only on every other gaming system out there that lets me play online for free...I mean that only leaves me with my PC, 3DS, PSP, PS3, DS, and iphone......

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@haggis said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

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Very poor attempt at avoiding reality for a third time. Extremely poor attempt at attacking my maturity too. Reality is. Your argument isn't. It's really THAT FUCKING SIMPLE.
You're not even making sense. Willing my opinion to go away isn't an argument. It's childish. But then, that's par for the course in my interactions with you on these forums. Here's some reality: my experiences on PSN were largely the same as on Xbox Live when it came to disruptive users. Deny it if you want, but you'll be denying reality. When you prove it wasn't true of my experiences, then come back and chat. I'm not making any earth-shattering claims here: make of it what you will. I expect more proof than a reference to a YouTube video.

You're sidestepping one of the most popular franchises on XBOX Live, nay online, to justify your opinion. As I said you can't just said supplant your blinkered view of reality and call it reality just to justify your opinion.

What in the hell are you talking about? "Sidestepping one of the most popular franchises"? I'm not giving an opinion, SeriouslyNow. I only said that I experienced the same level of disruption on both services in the games I played. I made no other claims. I already said that I have no opinion about which service was worst in this regard, only that in my experience I didn't see it go one way or the other. I have no idea what you're on about.

EDIT: You clearly think I'm saying something that I'm not. Go back and read what I wrote.

I haven't found Live to be any worse that PSN, but then I never played Halo online.

It's not relevant whether you've played it or not (which btw is probably utter bullshit - everyone has played Halo on a XBOX or 360 at some point) - the fact remains that it's one of the consistently played games online period and HALO KID is reflective of its community. You are supplanting some distorted view of reality with what's really going on to support some baseless argument.

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@haggis said:
@MideonNViscera: Yeah, I don't know why I keep going on like this with him. I ought to just ignore it.
He'll just show up again sometime down the road though. He has some weird knack for sucking you into a huge debate over something insignificant, and acting as if the fate of the universe depends on it.

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From the looks of things, nothing new is being discussed here as the arguments from both sides are getting repetitive, and what isn't repetitive is beginning to turn into a bit of a flame-fest.

Regardless, there's no need for this discussion to continue at this point. Better to stem this off then let it degenerate into full-on flaming and console fanboyism.