" @lazyturtle:@Liono88: We need things like this to keep our government honest. If you look through history, it's filled with people finding out wrongs that the government does and bring them to light. Without people like this, we wouldn't know about the Tuskegee Experiments, The Iran-Contra scandal, Watergate, Extraordinary Rendition, Waterboarding, Abuse of prisoners, abuses of the patriot act. Like it or not, it's organizations like these that keep us from being the real totalitarian state that 1984 warned us about. I will not be part of the United States of Eurasia. "
United States of Eurasia nice! "
No worries, the EU is too racist to considering letting in non-European nations. (Joking of course. Well, half-joking)
"History is written by the victor. History is filled with liars. If he lives, and we die, his truth becomes written, and ours is lost.
Shepherd will be a hero, 'cause all you need to change the world is one good lie and a river of blood.
He's about to complete the biggest trick a liar ever played on history.
His truth will be the truth.
But only if he lives, and we die".
I came when I realized Price was talking about DHS. Not to be a prick, but if USA doesn't want people to know of their filthy deeds, maybe they shouldn't be doing those deeds in the first place. The whole terrorist classification thing is reeking of butthurt. Really, trying to classify someone expressing his freedom of speech as a terrorist is so dumb. If they can't keep their secret documents tight enough, they might as well just let people read them. I haven't heard any negativity about the leaks except from americans who think this is gonna flip some serious shit. The problem is, noone really cares, most of this stuff just confirms most people's thoughts about America. However, the way Assanger has acquired these documents may be considered pretty illegal, but far from terrorist illegal. "
Here's the thing. Much of what was leaked most recently did not comprise at all of "dirty deeds." States friendly to the US in the Middle East urging them to take more aggressive action against Iran isn't some shameful act so much as communication that should remain classified. Analysis of whether China would be willing to accept a unified Korean Peninsula under South Korean leadership is not something anyone interested in the stability of that region would want to publish considering what just happened there. Wikileak is not some is not some high minded group out to expose the crimes of our governments. There is actually no discretion there at all.
It's not a lack of bias. It's a lack of discretion. Exposing possible criminal activities performed by the military in Iraq: good thing. Publishing classified document on an analysis of the relationship between China and North Korea at this specific point in time: really fucking brain dead stupid.
" I don't think these leaks threaten national security as they would like you to believe, because they aren't releasing documents for the sake of exposing plans. These documents just reveal some very odd behaviour and inappropriate stances. Ideally we should aim for a world where documents like these don't need to be leaked, as opposed to shutting people down that expose them. "
Leaking internal documents where the US states its doubt on China's actual influence over North Korea doesn't threaten the stability of the peninsula at this exact point in time?
If the executive leader of a country isn't acting with one metaphoric arm tied behind his back, there's something wrong with the balance of power in that country.
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