Adachi was a cool twist that I didn't see coming. I can handle him putting on his NOW I'M EVIL voice, and him being a creepy raper guy is kind of believable. But what the fuck; now he can teleport, knows all about the TV world, make duplicate bodies of himself, manipulate portals in the TV world, can project his voice apparently, and wants to destroy the real world for some reason. So now when did he turn into generic JRPG villain?
I mean the whole game is kind of insane, they still never explained how Teddie produced a human inside himself but whatever, stuff like that's fine. This Adachi thing just sucks because games do it all the time, and instead of being a weird twist it's a boring overused cliche.
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4
Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Jul 10, 2008
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 is a role-playing game developed and published by Atlus for the PlayStation 2. It is chronologically the fifth installment in the Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series. Like its predecessor, its gameplay combines a traditional role-playing game with elements of a social simulation. Its critical and commercial success spawned a sizable media empire, including several spinoff titles.
This episode 130 onwards stuff got kinda nuts all of a sudden.
I cant really say much without giving spoilers, but not everything you're saying is true. And having some control in the tv world makes him a generic villan?
since I already had it spoiled too me and played through the game myself this week was fine but yeah this is THE END OF THE GAME BRO it all goes downhill from here but ps there are still more surprises too come and unlike my best friend, the jerk who spoiled it I won't mention those
flamebait what.
adachi is a sweet villian. hes pissed cause he didn't get any. i find people are having trouble with his change though.
Explaining any of that would be spoilerish. But remember Adachi said that the shadows don't attack him because they have the same goal?
Edit: But he doesn't know all about the TV world, that was already explained. He knew just as much as Namatame but he wasn't as naive to think that that place was safe, in his mind a place inside a TV would be a death trap.
Edit 2: And Teddie's a shadow; he can basically do anything. It's just that he was a shadow created by the human mind to appeal to humans and his initial teddy bear appearance appeals universally to everyone. His human shape was specifically created to appeal to girls as he wanted to score with them.
" The change is a little ridiculous but at least the world or the universe isn't threatened. "Iniba is, and I kind of got the sense that the world was aswell.
@FluxWaveZ said:
" But he doesn't know all about the TV world, that was already explained. "Well he's doin a pretty good job at teleporting, regardless.
" The change is a little ridiculous but at least the world or the universe isn't threatened. "I would say the fact that are world is going to be consumed and everyone turned into shadows that the world has a little chrisis on its hands
If Jeff and Vinny go for the true ending (which is highly unlikely), there will be a surprise....more or less.
i think the main problem is that becuase its more a murder mystery where the killer is revelaed and kind of goes in a differnt direction a bit fast story wise. though i think if they found out he was the killer earler and bul thim up it wouldnt work well either.
as for the true ending. was not a fan. found it a bit silly
" @FluxWaveZ said:
" @Metal_Gear_Sunny said:This is true, but the surprise feels a little cheap, because there were no pieces for the player to put together. No clues as to what's really going on. You get some of that with Adachi; looking back, you can see all the times he was around you, or when he gave you "insider info" on the police investigation. The time he was very quick to haul in the photographer with no evidence. They all point to what Adachi was really up to, but nobody noticed. A plot twist is always best when it's something you could have figured out if you had just thought long enough. The True Ending, while definitely tying up a few loose ends (and in an interesting way), feels a bit too out-of-left-field. ""If Jeff and Vinny go for the true ending (which is highly unlikely), there will be a surprise....more or less. "It's not more or less, it's freakin' unpredictable how crazy it is! "
Another foreshadowing factor about Adachi that I like: when he tells Nanako how smart he is.
Potential Spoiler Alert
But yeah, I had pretty much argued what happens in the true ending path with fellow user Hailinel who seems to very much like that plot twist. I don't really want to get into it too much here because there are no spoiler tags, but I feel like what happens was not truly supposed to and the real ending was supposed to be the normal ending. But Atlus remembered how they added The Answer to P3 FES and how it explained more stuff about the plot and they didn't want to ignore those aspects again so after the developement of the game, they just added that part in the beginning of the game, made the NPC available and added that part in the end. If you just remove all of that, the story still works.
Man I wish Giant Bomb had a type of spoiler system like NeoGAF for comments...
And ever since the ghost incident with Yukari I decided I should stay away from her, but how Mitsuru was acting was very not like her. I would think she would have had the same mindset as Junpei, or Akihiko at least. I think Yukari may have had a bad influence on her...
Adachi ties in thematically with the Tower SL and givnet eh high reqiruements the game would have you doing it the same time you find out about Adachi. Bascially Adachi is one path the kid you're tutoring could take. Jeff and Vinny aren't going to go into it enough to show how it ties together.
"Adachi ties in thematically with the Tower SL and givnet eh high reqiruements the game would have you doing it the same time you find out about Adachi. Bascially Adachi is one path the kid you're tutoring could take. Jeff and Vinny aren't going to go into it enough to show how it ties together. "
Wow really? Next time I go through the game I'll have to look out for that.
The thing about Adachi really isn't all that bizarre or unrealistic if you're at all familiar with the mentality of sociopaths. He fits the profile of someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder perfectly. He has no empathy and his emotional qualities are shallow to non-existent, yet he displays a superficial charm throughout most of the game that allows him to fit into society. Professionally, he's highly irresponsible, yet he has an incredibly inflated sense of his own importance and talent. He feels nothing Mayumi and Saki and reacts with violent, domineering anger when they both "reject" him (as Adachi perceives their behavior). He blames both of them for their fates despite him being the one that shoved them into the TV. He cons people into believing that he's a harmless dope when he's anything but, and once the murder investigation starts, he manages to keep things going merely for his own amusement and nothing more.
Another foreshadowing factor about Adachi that I like: when he tells Nanako how smart he is.I still feel that the true ending and the path leading too it aren't as out of left field as some believe. There were a number of elements throughout the game that foreshadowed the true ending, even from the very beginning. It's just that they're very subtle, or revolve around aspects that we in western culture wouldn't think of at first due largely to an unfamiliarity with Japanese mythology and folklore. If you were to remove the entirety of the true ending path from the endgame and ignore certain other events, it wouldn't really help the story because a number of key issues would be left unanswered.
Potential Spoiler Alert But yeah, I had pretty much argued what happens in the true ending path with fellow user Hailinel who seems to very much like that plot twist. I don't really want to get into it too much here because there are no spoiler tags, but I feel like what happens was not truly supposed to and the real ending was supposed to be the normal ending. But Atlus remembered how they added The Answer to P3 FES and how it explained more stuff about the plot and they didn't want to ignore those aspects again so after the developement of the game, they just added that part in the beginning of the game, made the NPC available and added that part in the end. If you just remove all of that, the story still works. Man I wish Giant Bomb had a type of spoiler system like NeoGAF for comments... "
Considering what's happened in the game so far, the stuff with Adachi is basically mundane. I love his evil voice and borderline paedo grin.
I hate how people talk about the Adachi plot twist that he has CHANGED, like he has a multiple personality disorder or experienced depersonification. And people still talk about him CHANGING even after watching the flashbacks. Flashbacks. Especially that if you play the game again, or listen to Naoto's assumptions, you can find hints about his role in the game.
Although something I dont really understand is why he's throwing up when discovering Mayumi's body in the beginning of the game. He must he have thought he sent her to her death anyway, why was he so shocked to find her body? He showed that he did not seem to care for others when he was found out. Doing it just to avoid suspicion seemed unessecary, as there was nothing to link him to the murder.
Adachi's situation made a lot of sense once it was explained. It felt real (as real as an explanation for a guy who kills people by throwing them into TVs can be) so I was plenty satisfied.
Although the true ending does tie up some loose ends, I never really found myself worrying about those things in the first place. It's good enough closure, but I would have also been plenty satisfied with just the good ending.
A lot of people missed my point. I get that he was a creepy raper guy all along: That's believable and cool. I just hate how he's turned into a level 99 sephiroth super mage for no reason.
It's a bit like in Bioshock where they did that big reveal scene, then he turned into the hulk and you had to do a boss fight while he was shouting YOU'LL NEVER DEFEAT ME IM SO POWERFUL HAHAHAHAHA!!
And what do you mean it's like Bioshock? It's not like that at all! Fontaine injected himself full of Adam because you would have killed him easily if not for that and he wanted to be a powerful being.
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