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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Deadly Premonition: Part BR-34

Yes, I'm calling to inquire about your Wall Ladies. Just how many do you have in stock?

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

May. 20 2010

Cast: Ryan, Brad

Posted by: Drew

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Deadly Premonition

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Episodes with creepy wall ladies are brutal but I don't know how you can blame Brad the combat in this game is just bad and all the enemies are annoying bullet sponges.

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OH NOES BRAD ISN'T GUD AT DEES SHEETTY GAMES. I'M CRY ABOUT IT!
 
(Though apparently, he's pretty good at Starcraft 2)

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Well, Bradley, if you didn't try to melee the wall ladies like a crazy person, maybe you wouldn't get hit so often!
 
JUST SAYIN', BRO.
 
EDIT: 36:43 "Yes, this appears to be a far more reliable strategy."
 
"It only took us the entire game to find it!
 
"[sigh] god..."

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Considering how VJ figured out the best way to take down the Wall Crawlies, it's just that much more annoying to watch Brad continue to struggle with them. I seriously think he feels the need to fight the game controls, instead of working with them.

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Thinking a lot about this I have reached the conclusion that Brad is just not willing to adapt to Deadly Premonition.  He doesn't have to in any other context because the game frankly blows in its execution but Brad is doing no favors for himself after playing the game for more than 15 hours.
 
This however has no impact on his supposed "ability to play games".  Every single other quick look he plays just as good as anyone else on staff or out there in the viewership.  Frustrating moments like wall-ladies are not an excuse to grossly exaggerate how much he sucks at games, he doesn't suck at games.  Brad is rather good at games but just not this one in particular.
 
All he does is die a bit more under camera pressure but his skills are not the problem.  Get that through your thick skulls people. 
 
PRO TIP:  Skipping ahead is your friend.  
 
Seriously so much frustration at Brad fighting the game itself has been avoided simply by skipping ahead because honestly what brilliant comedy is going to happen when Brad is fighting wall ladies and the game?  None that's what.  Might as well skip it.
 
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@TheWolf619

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"I seriously think he feels the need to fight the game controls, instead of working with them. "

 I think he is justified for at least the first half but this long into the game he's quickly running out of excuses for this.  Totally agree
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@TadThuggish: shut the fuck up.  seriously dude. 
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Everyone complaining about Brad can feel free to go to IGN, where everyone is hardcore and "uber-leet".
 
I don't think he's bad at games.  Does he die often in QLs and ERs?  Yes, but that's quite a different situation from playing on your own, and some people are more competent in certain genres than others, like how someone mentioned that Brad's good at Starcraft 2.
 
His complaints when he fails in DP are the kind of aggravated comments many people make when they fuck up in a game.  The first thing that pops out of my mouth when someone headshots me is "bullshit".  Does that mean I think the game is actively cheating me?  No, I'm just pissed at the current situation.  
 
None of you have any real criticism for his writing, he's a good writer.  He also has interesting and insightful commentary on the industry, even if you think he approaches it from a different level of skill than most journalists.  Surely if that's the case (which I still don't believe), then his opinions and views are in line with at least a portion of the Giant Bomb user-base?
 
All this Brad complaining has really ramped up lately, but it seems like it's more just a combination of butt-hurt over disagreeing with his OPINION of Lost Planet 2, and jealousy that he gets paid to do this and you don't, even though you guys are all "such better gamers than he is".

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Why are some people even comparing the reviewing of games with doing an endurance run?
That would be valid only if Brad would take the exact same approach to reviewing games as he does towards this endurance run.
 
Factor in the fact that this is a daily feature, with them playing it on god knows what time of the day. Also, they are providing comments while playing. My gaming skills, if any, vanish as soon as i am in a conversation with someone.  How would reviewing a game even compare to that? His reviews are for one based on an invested playthrough of a game, not some feature that is primarily meant to entertain viewers, rather than provide a sound opinion. 
 
These endurance runs, to me, just prove that Brad is truly a gamer as well as a reviewer, not just one or the other. V&J have spent their otherworld sections of the game by standing a mile away from enemies, spraying the machine gun. That strategy has proven itself to them early on and they are sticking by it, fair enough. Still, seeing Brad exploring the boundaries of the game is something I would not have wanted to miss during these endurance runs. Even if that means that he is repeatedly overstepping them, which ends up with him pulling a 'self'. 
 
The only valid complaint would be that his complaints about the game are largely a consequence of his own stubborness to adhere to the illogical rules of playing deadly premonition and that most of his critique is thus his own fault. But that takes me back to the point of this not being a review, let the man vent his frustration. 

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 LOL, I don't mean to be a dick, but Brad kind of sucks. It's irritating watching this endurance run sometimes because of it. Although, that could be easily solved by me not watching it. However, I'm compelled to. :)

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@DiGiTaL_SiN said:
" Oh come on Brad;  Run past her, then after she turns red and does her little grab animation hit her with the melee! (She should still be glowing red for a while after her grab animation) "
THISTHISTHISTHISTHIS
 
I was practically screaming this in my mind... it's so obvious, now that they've figured out she takes a while after her red grabby animation thing! RUN PAST HER WHEN SHE GRABS, GOLF CLUB/SHOVEL IN HAND, THEN RUN BACK AND FUCK. HER. UP. MELEE STYLE.
 
The fights would take about 30 seconds rather than 6+ minutes, but judging by the VJ endurance run, it might not matter anymore. We may have seen the last of the wall ladies..?
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@Wrighteous86 said:
" Everyone complaining about Brad can feel free to go to IGN, where everyone is hardcore and "uber-leet".  I don't think he's bad at games.  Does he die often in QLs and ERs?  Yes, but that's quite a different situation from playing on your own, and some people are more competent in certain genres than others, like how someone mentioned that Brad's good at Starcraft 2.  His complaints when he fails in DP are the kind of aggravated comments many people make when they fuck up in a game.  The first thing that pops out of my mouth when someone headshots me is "bullshit".  Does that mean I think the game is actively cheating me?  No, I'm just pissed at the current situation.    None of you have any real criticism for his writing, he's a good writer.  He also has interesting and insightful commentary on the industry, even if you think he approaches it from a different level of skill than most journalists.  Surely if that's the case (which I still don't believe), then his opinions and views are in line with at least a portion of the Giant Bomb user-base?  All this Brad complaining has really ramped up lately, but it seems like it's more just a combination of butt-hurt over disagreeing with his OPINION of Lost Planet 2, and jealousy that he gets paid to do this and you don't, even though you guys are all "such better gamers than he is". "
Thank you. Said it before I could and said it better.
If your "plumber" isn't competent, a flawed comparison, you get a different one.
That seems to be the correct answer here too. Lot's of other outlets and folks on the web if this is below your standards.  Why torture yourself with something if it is causing so much angst? Not sure why you would bother.
Every one of the GB'rs brings unique things to what they do, both individually and as a group. 
I think they are all terrific and there is a definite void when any one of them is away.
This site is so much my favorite as a result of this chemistry it is the first place I go each day, even before checking the news.
Like to have my coffee while checking in with the boyz of the 'Bomb. 
'nuff said by me on this. Won't be engaging in anything else as it starts to look like tit for tat. 
You are welcome to your position.
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 If I had any artistic talent, I would draw Brad and Ryan sitting on the couch with a million Ceiling Ladies hanging out behind them. And Ryan would be yelling "Fuck you, bitch!"

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Regarding Brad as a gamer I can deffinitly see both sides of the arguement but for me its good that there is someone who isen't  a gaming god playing the games and writing about them as there are many people who have a love for gaming but not always the skills required to be uber gamers. I see Brad as a proficent gamer and incredible writer and journalist and it means there is a good balance to the site due to the whole GB staff. 
Sometimes I have seen Ryan and Jeff  play and just been amazed at how easy they can make a game seem due to their skill levels while the same game can be infuriating hard for me. On the other hand watching Brad seems to be more real to me.

 

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 @TaylorPollock said:

"If your "plumber" isn't competent, a flawed comparison, you get a different one. That seems to be the correct answer here too. Lot's of other outlets and folks on the web if this is below your standards."

 
For the record, my comment that IGN was hardcore and "uber-leet" was meant ironically.  They are mostly pathetic, self-important fanboys desperate to seem edgy and cool.  They are the dregs of games writing.
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So happy for Brad & Ryan for cracking the Wall Lady code!  Awesome, guys!
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Oh, sweet Jesus, BR actually realized the wall lady strategy.  I would have bet money that they never would.  Bravo, guys.

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"You fucking ass hole!" My thoughts exactly...

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Brad is so fucking pissed at the game, the wall ladies and the readers. I too have complained at least once about Bradley's mistakes and for that I am sorry. My wishes are that every one extends the same courtesy.
 
Just remember, we love you, Brad.
 
And god damn it, Ryan, stop giving such a hard time: he does not need any more adversity than he already has.

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Justr wanted to say that I think Brad is awesome.  Don't pay any attention to the haters.

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@Devil240Z said:
" @TadThuggish: shut the fuck up.  seriously dude.  "
This.
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Brad you are my hero. Keep it up.

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 i like how brad constantly insists on trying to melee the walllady.

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@VoshiNova said:
" @Phanman said:
" Brad: "To everyone saying all our misfortunes are my fault, you can shove it up your f'ucking ass"  Haha, that's funny due to the irony. "
I lol'd.  But seriously Brad? This just makes me not like your chipmunk looking ass. It's so blatantly obvious how generally bad you are at playing video games.  lol "
"chipmunk looking ass" What does that even mean?
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@MannAlive said:
" @Devil240Z said:
" @TadThuggish: shut the fuck up.  seriously dude.  "
This. "
Basically. Brad might suck at games, but you don't need to be good at games to be a good game reviewer and journalist. Besides, he's an extremely good interviewer.
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Poor risk management, cockiness and impatience it seems Brad has not learned anything from Deadly Premonition.

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I love how both endurance runs are so different in play, mood and interest

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Brad, remember the first rule of an endurance run: There are no rules.

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Stiff upper lip Brad, you're still a cool reporter.

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@adoggz said:
"  i like how brad constantly insists on trying to melee the walllady. "
Don't give him wrong ideas. That was actually a good one, the wallladies die much faster through melee.
 
...the only problem was the part where he ran headon into  their attack animation and expected to not be hit:P
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today's lesson is take more notice to your weapon's power level.

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@mutha3: hey, I like it when brad melee's I think he should constantly melee everything in the game or screw it melee everything
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Damn guys, stop hating on Brad. He's awesome!

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Poor Brad. Somebody needs to tell him to use the shotgun or buy a magnum and use that when he fights those wall ladies. It's getting painful watching him lose his damn mind.

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i can't believe neither of them have yet figured out the proper wall lady strategy...
 
EDIT:  i spoke too soon haha.  in the end, they finally did.

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@Milkman said:
" @VoshiNova said:
" @Phanman said:
" Brad: "To everyone saying all our misfortunes are my fault, you can shove it up your f'ucking ass"  Haha, that's funny due to the irony. "
I lol'd.  But seriously Brad? This just makes me not like your chipmunk looking ass. It's so blatantly obvious how generally bad you are at playing video games.  lol "
"chipmunk looking ass" What does that even mean? "
Chipmunk looking ass........
 
Could it mean that Brad looks like a chipmunk?
 
Hmmmmmm....
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"Every time it's a threesome, just bail." Words of the wise

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@VoshiNova said:
" @Milkman said:
" @VoshiNova said:
" @Phanman said:
" Brad: "To everyone saying all our misfortunes are my fault, you can shove it up your f'ucking ass"  Haha, that's funny due to the irony. "
I lol'd.  But seriously Brad? This just makes me not like your chipmunk looking ass. It's so blatantly obvious how generally bad you are at playing video games.  lol "
"chipmunk looking ass" What does that even mean? "
Chipmunk looking ass........  Could it mean that Brad looks like a chipmunk?  Hmmmmmm.... "
Hmm, I think it meaning that you're secretly in love with Brad and are not so secretly stalking him to check out his ass and make comparisons of it to other creatures' asses makes a whole lot more sense.
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@TadThuggish: Only you would care enough to post that gigantic tangent. This game controls like ass, I don't blame Brad for hating on it.
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I really hope Brad can survive the rest of the game. I hope that when he hits the stuff that VJ hit today where the camera angle is all fucked up he won't whine for 10 minutes about the controls but just play the game and try to get past it. It's almost like he never thinks he's at fault for anything bad that happens to the game and that he plants the blame on the game just because it's not perfectly made.

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I'm never reading the comments in the BR run ever again. 
 
Seriously, if you think it's necessary to be great at games in order to be a professional reviewer, you're crazy. Being a game journalist - or just a writer for media in general - is about having a deep knowledge of the medium, and being able to convey your thoughts and opinions in written word. Pulling off headshots does not make you a games journalist.  
 
Brad is one of the best writers in this industry and he's obviously good enough at playing games to finish them. That's the base-level skill requirement in my mind and anything more than that is completely superfluous.  If you can find any example of Brad's frustration influencing his opinions of a game in a negative way, I'd love to see it, but as far as I can tell his reviews have been completely unaffected by any struggles he may have had with a game's difficulty. 
 
Brad rules; you people are crazy.

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Like how all these basement dwelling nerds claim that they would do so much better at the game infront of a mic. 

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There's been times that Brad's proven that he's not so bad at this game like that time in the Art Gallery basement with several zombies and he took em all out with the pistol without getting hit once. There was also a time early in the game where he shot a barrell and it exploded and he supposedly "forgets" that fact even when one time he had a sliver of health and was meleeing a barrell one hit before it would've exploded on him. Is it really a coincidence that the more you guys hate on his videogaming skills, the worse he gets?
 
He's kind of trolling you guys. Brad likes to put on a show, and I like to watch. Good times.

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Brad, poor you, hahahha learning slowly close to the end!
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Clumping all the Wall Ladies together is a great design choice.

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@TheHT said:

" @VoshiNova said:

" @Milkman said:
" @VoshiNova said:
" @Phanman said:
" Brad: "To everyone saying all our misfortunes are my fault, you can shove it up your f'ucking ass"  Haha, that's funny due to the irony. "
I lol'd.  But seriously Brad? This just makes me not like your chipmunk looking ass. It's so blatantly obvious how generally bad you are at playing video games.  lol "
"chipmunk looking ass" What does that even mean? "
Chipmunk looking ass........  Could it mean that Brad looks like a chipmunk?  Hmmmmmm.... "
Hmm, I think it meaning that you're secretly in love with Brad and are not so secretly stalking him to check out his ass and make comparisons of it to other creatures' asses makes a whole lot more sense. "
touché.
 
Alright I take it back, Brad's still awesome.
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@LunarAura said:
"

  
There's been times that Brad's proven that he's not so bad at this game like that time in the Art Gallery basement with several zombies and he took em all out with the pistol without getting hit once. There was also a time early in the game where he shot a barrell and it exploded and he supposedly "forgets" that fact even when one time he had a sliver of health and was meleeing a barrell one hit before it would've exploded on him. Is it really a coincidence that the more you guys hate on his videogaming skills, the worse he gets?
 
He's kind of trolling you guys. Brad likes to put on a show, and I like to watch. Good times.

"
All the people screaming about how Brad shouldn't be a reviewer are insane, but no.
 
Brad is just not good at games.
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man, sometimes these are really painful to watch. especially those wall ladies.... much hate to them. 

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so if u run past a wall-lady and THEN melee her after she whiffs her attack, would that work?

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Brad, I love you man. But I don't think I can watch you fight these lovely ladies. Thankfully, it seems that you caught on to the golden strategy around 30 minutes in. Hopefully you will have an easier, if still tedious, time with these bitches.

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Haaaleluya! Haaaleluya! Haleluya! Haleluya! Haleeeeluya! Finaly they cathch on!
 
Son of a fucking bitch indeed Brad. A fine display of Cacalackey verbosity.