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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Deadly Premonition: Part BR-38

Oh Endurance Runs...as one door closes another refuses to open.

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

May. 26 2010

Cast: Ryan, Brad

Posted by: Vinny

In This Episode:

Deadly Premonition

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO why would you end it there!
 
CAN NOT WAIT FOR TOMORROW.

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@TaylorPollock: These episodes were recorded weeks ago. Reading the comments when the videos are up would be too late.
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I have a suspicion that Brad probably stopped looking at comments early on in the ER.
 
I can't imagine if he read them daily that he would bother finishing his ER once Vinny/Jeff hit the end otherwise.  It seems the majority opinion is that Brad blows and shouldn't bother.  
 
Thankfully he and Ryan apparently aren't operating based on 'majority opinion' in the comments.
 
I actually enjoy both pairs and am pretty happy to have some additional installments to watch.  If I had so much contempt for BR's efforts though I wouldn't be watching.  Not sure why others do.  Still seems masochistic in a big way. 
 
Uh, it's playing.  A game.  For the purposes of entertaining all of us.  Even if you are frustrated doesn't that beat just staring blankly at the screen while everything is done perfectly?  Perfectly boring?

Yet day after day it seems to be the same recycled insults.  Literally you can cut/paste from any one of the 38 episodes.  Isn't it boring to write the same thing every day?  Seems like that ground has been pretty well covered and covered and covered.....

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Oh man, Brad. seriously. Its weird that I thought Brad really liked survival horror games like Resident Evil 5 (he gave it 5/5 and it was a good detailed review) yet he doesn't seem to understand the concept of "When the zombies are close and you can't kill them all, run to the other side of the room and start over."
 
His quick look of Resident Evil 5: Desperate Escape makes so much more sense now.

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@TadThuggish said:
" @louiedog said:
" These dueling endurance runs are a great demonstration on why you should attack obstacles with a positive outlook. The VJ run accepted the shortcomings of this game, made the best of them, and got through the game without too much trouble. BR are having a much worse time. Their apathy, scorn, and frustration seem to get in the way and they end up lost and dead much more, generally accompanied by tons of complaining. All four guys are obviously very capable game players, but attitude seems to divide how much enjoyment they get out of the game and how well they do in it. Luckily for us, both ERs are fun. "
This.  Almost precisely this.  The game's core mechanics aren't great, we all know that, but BR (well, Brad) has not wrapped his mind around that.  Instead of working WITH the game to have a good time, he just expects the game to hand him fun on a silver platter.  And he especially wants his hand to be held, so when he does something  that would be stupid in ANY video game, he gets pissed off when he fails.  The controls aren't good and the aiming isn't good.  Having played it or not, we all get that.  Not every game, for better or worse,  is going to be a 100% visceral experience like Uncharted 2.   Team VJ were upset with the game's flaws at times, but they know how to enjoy it, for the most part.  While Brad is like the kid in the woods playing with sticks and rocks, constantly complaining to his friends that "This all isn't real!", not letting himself suspend his disbelief to have fun with what he has. "

I really like what both of you are saying here as it makes a lot of sense and also has shown me some of my own short-comings in gaming.
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@louiedog said:
" These dueling endurance runs are a great demonstration on why you should attack obstacles with a positive outlook. The VJ run accepted the shortcomings of this game, made the best of them, and got through the game without too much trouble. BR are having a much worse time. Their apathy, scorn, and frustration seem to get in the way and they end up lost and dead much more, generally accompanied by tons of complaining. All four guys are obviously very capable game players, but attitude seems to divide how much enjoyment they get out of the game and how well they do in it. Luckily for us, both ERs are fun. "
This.  Almost precisely this.  The game's core mechanics aren't great, we all know that, but BR (well, Brad) has not wrapped his mind around that.  Instead of working WITH the game to have a good time, he just expects the game to hand him fun on a silver platter.  And he especially wants his hand to be held, so when he does something  that would be stupid in ANY video game, he gets pissed off when he fails.
 
The controls aren't good and the aiming isn't good.  Having played it or not, we all get that.  Not every game, for better or worse,  is going to be a 100% visceral experience like Uncharted 2.   Team VJ were upset with the game's flaws at times, but they know how to enjoy it, for the most part.  While Brad is like the kid in the woods playing with sticks and rocks, constantly complaining to his friends that "This all isn't real!", not letting himself suspend his disbelief to have fun with what he has.
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@88Fingers said:
" @mutha3:   hate to say it but yeah, Jeff ruined the ending.  s                           i                                 g                                h................................................. "
Oh man. I saw the ER end with them too. Was really affected by it but didn't see it reflected in them. Anyways, hope BR don't disappoint. 
But the ending was great anyway. Nothing can take that away from me.
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Call me crazy but I could listen to Ryan do the "star theme song" all day. 

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kind of strange watching BR and knowing how everything works, hard to not scream at my screen and just shout "shoot the mothereffin' deer head!!" lol

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Brad should really use the start menu to switch weapons, like Vinny does. Also, I think he would do a lot better on crowd control if he started using stronger weapons so he doesn't spend 30 seconds for each zombie. Also, also, that suit isn't the real one. 

For those comparing the two runs, VJ had a lot of interesting commentary on the pacing and mechanics, while BR seems to focus more on the story. Both runs are great in there own way.

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I'm only 2 minutes in and I'm already laughing uncontrollably at York smashing his head into a door repeatedly.
 
I don't care what anyone says, Brad should be the pilot for EVERY quick look.

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@mutha3: 
 
hate to say it but yeah, Jeff ruined the ending.
 
s                           i                                 g                                h.................................................
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Deadly Premonition was called Red Seeds Profile in Japan.

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Brad and Ryan's E.R. has been much more entertaining than Vinny and Jeff's.
All that sighing Jeff was doing spoiled it.
I can't stand that "sighing" sound.
 
No big deal though. I still love Jeff :)
 
They really should do a special podcast and talk about this game.

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@griefersstolemykeyboard: I agree, Jeff got really burnt out near the end. Ryan and Brad started out hating the game more (and maybe they still do) but they are trying hard to enjoy it. Both runs have their good and bad episodes.
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@griefersstolemykeyboard said:
" @lordofultima said:
" @griefersstolemykeyboard said:
" more entertaining than VJ, were jeff is just sighing loudly and Vinny trying to make conversation. "
No, that's Brad. He's the one sighing and hating every waking moment, remember? "

Ok this is officially freaking me out now, am I the only one in this world that actually found VJ to be kinda boring? After about say episode 10 Jeff didn't even attempt to care he just kinda gave up. Say what you will about BR but they seem enthusiastic when the plot moves forward which is more than you can say about VJ which was basically Vinny desperately trying to keep the show rolling (and he did a admirable job.)


"
No, your definitely not alone. I agree, BR has been much better for a looong while now.
 
....And if I ever hear Jeff go ''tsk'' or ''ha-huh'' ever again, I think I'll go insane. He did that like 5000 times in the last episodes.
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@lordofultima said:
" @griefersstolemykeyboard said:
" more entertaining than VJ, were jeff is just sighing loudly and Vinny trying to make conversation. "
No, that's Brad. He's the one sighing and hating every waking moment, remember? "

Ok this is officially freaking me out now, am I the only one in this world that actually found VJ to be kinda boring? After about say episode 10 Jeff didn't even attempt to care he just kinda gave up. Say what you will about BR but they seem enthusiastic when the plot moves forward which is more than you can say about VJ which was basically Vinny desperately trying to keep the show rolling (and he did a admirable job.)

Oh and thanks for the quest by the way I was like minding my own business and suddendly it popped up,  best news all day.

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@griefersstolemykeyboard said:
" more entertaining than VJ, were jeff is just sighing loudly and Vinny trying to make conversation. "
No, that's Brad. He's the one sighing and hating every waking moment, remember?
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@myketuna: 
Stuff like this makes me want to see a totally unnecessary behind-the-scenes about production info of Endurance Runs. But that would probably suck most of the magic out of the process. Still, I wonder sometimes.
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more entertaining than VJ, were jeff is just sighing loudly and Vinny trying to make conversation.

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I like how they try to shoot the non highlighted deer head and then give up. 
 
EDIT: Ha, at Vinny laughing at them.

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@Sarumarine: I think Drew just does whatever while they record. Works on other videos or something. And then when it comes time to finish up (the guys tell him they think they're done for the day/ep), Drew just stops and edits it later on.
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@PandaShake said:
" @Sarumarine:  Hopefully drew just has to push the buttons to record/stop record and goes on about his business "
Yeah, probably. But I keep imagining he has to hang around to keep track of time or make sure recording is going smoothly or something.
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@Sarumarine:  Hopefully drew just has to push the buttons to record/stop record and goes on about his business
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"thank god that hallway was empty."
"climactic finale tomorrow!"
 
They're going to be so dissapointed.

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I was wondering about Drew. How does he handle watching the same puzzle twice? And when one group can't seem to get it down and spend dozens of minutes figuring it out. How does he hold it together?
 
Heh, anyways, it'll be interesting to see how Brad and Ryan dig the grand finale and all that includes.

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they shoulda done more side quests

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That door seriously got me stuck. I even had to google it to find out why the door wouldnt open (the one you have to hold A for). In my defense you never had to do that previously so I never thought to actually hold the A button down. 
 
I feel silly for not thinking to try that now though. At least they figured that part out faster then I did only to get stuck on the easy flipping deer head puzzle haha
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Vinny is the best.

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When BR is done, the four of them should record an ER post-mortem Bombcast.
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Man, I can't believe they didn't make it to the George fight today.

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So, BR, you guys gonna be doin' the Persona 5 endurance run with VJ?

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@louiedog said:
"All four guys are obviously very capable game players"

 Now this is where you are wrong, my friend.
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I think York slamming his head into the door is the no brainer clip for I <3 Mondays.

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@crono11:  I knew the moment they tried hitting the not glowly one they were going to think that wasn't an option but at least they didn't have anywhere else to wander to.
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So painful to watch when they Ryan suggests hitting the deer heads, then they try a not highlighted one, then leave the room.

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Ah, yes, the stone door. Hilarious.
 
*sigh* I hate being the Negative Nancy, but Brad shoots a single deer head (the one that's not upside down, I might point out) and says, "Nope, won't work." I've never played DP so I don't know what I would do, but surely I would also shoot the upside down head?

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OMG at the deer head room, these guys have been playing games for awhile right? It's crap like this that just makes me OMG face palm
 
im mean seriously, you're playing a video game with guns and shooting the target isn't your first choice? seriously guys

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@FlyingRat said:
" @EmperorSeth said:
" What was the comment about Vinny for?  I remember there were a few comments made at BR's expense in the messages back when team VJ tackled the deer head room, but I don't remember Vinny himself saying anything. "
Did you not hear Vinny in the background during this episode? "
I heard some stuff in the background, but I must have missed the good ones.  Do you remember where his best comments are?
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@TurboMan said:
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WIN!
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Brad and Ryan are my favorites!

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@EmperorSeth said:
" What was the comment about Vinny for?  I remember there were a few comments made at BR's expense in the messages back when team VJ tackled the deer head room, but I don't remember Vinny himself saying anything. "
Did you not hear Vinny in the background during this episode?
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"This game was called something totally different." 
 
Penultimate Fantasia: Zenith of Infinity Maximum; Red Seeds Profile

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BRAD SHOEMAKER I AM THE GHOST OF VIDEO GAME PRESENT
I AM HERE TO TELL YOU
yur terible

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Brad trying to open the door was classic

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perfect dude, just perfect
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Poor Brad shoots a random deer head, and the runs away since it didn't work. Oh, and just like VJ, they are afraid to eat Thomas' Biscuit.

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'they could easily get away with not explaining any of that' 
 
who would have thought at the start of the ER brad would be letting this game of the hook! :)