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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 132

Nothing like a meat bowl to get those investigative juices flowing.

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

Aug. 18 2009

Cast: Jeff, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

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Weird how as soon as you say Adachi, he gets the "angry face" the next time you see him.

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@Ventilator said:
" And reading some of the stuff here... We should let the staff know before any next ER is going to take place that the comment section should be blocked.  It´s for the greater good. "
Well, I am afraid it's not that simple, for two reasons:
 
1) I don't think you can disable comments for single videos with the current CMS
2) People will find other ways to bug them
 
My solution would be to make the ER a recurring special (e. g. twice a year) with a time limit of four to eight weeks. This way, it would be something truly special each time and not overwhelming site, staff and us.
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@MiserableGerm said:
" @DavidSnakes: And here folks is our Aion-lite. Say hi to him everybody! "
Oh yeah!!! What happened to Aion? He was fun to listen to.
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It doesn't fucking matter if Jeff or Vinny had it spoiled. I didn't have it spoiled and neither did a load of other ER viewers.
 
Besides, who actually killed people doesn't matter much. What matters is the how and the why and what's done about it, how it all ties up, why the fog has come out, what the TV world is all about. I am expecting there to be a great deal more entertaining craziness in this game, and it's Jeff and Vinny's reactions to unexpected madness that make the ER worth watching, not their appreciation of the plot.
 
Plus the only solution to spoilers in the comments is to implement a spoiler tag and ban people who fail to use it.

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@Insectecutor said:
" It doesn't fucking matter if Jeff or Vinny had it spoiled. I didn't have it spoiled and neither did a load of other ER viewers.  Besides, who actually killed people doesn't matter much. What matters is the how and the why and what's done about it, how it all ties up, why the fog has come out, what the TV world is all about. I am expecting there to be a great deal more entertaining craziness in this game, and it's Jeff and Vinny's reactions to unexpected madness that make the ER worth watching, not their appreciation of the plot.  Plus the only solution to spoilers in the comments is to implement a spoiler tag and ban people who fail to use it. "
bolded for emphasis! totally true, its all the commentary that have made ER such a joy to watch every day
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ROFL Hanako is fat bottom girl, Noriko is hot for teacher, and Misuzu is the singer that was Namatame's wife.
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@dbz1995 said:

" @JeffGoldblum said:

" @sixghost said:
" @Blair said:
" @sixghost said:
" @ZmillA said:
" @sixghost said:
" @Blair said:
" @toadstule said:
" @ZmillA said:
@InvestigationTeam: why even tell them all that stuff, how bout they do things on their own now? "
I agree, please stop controlling how they play and let them do things on their own. "
Exactly. "

No one is forcing them to play the exact way suggested in the comments. If they are willing to go to outside sources to help out, they would be capable of doing that whether or not people were posting suggestions in the comments.

Jeff and Vinny are big boys, they can decide how they want to play the game for themselves.

"
Good thing you said that, otherwise they wouldn't have known "
I'm looking forward to their future posts complaining about the existance of internet FAQs if that's the case. "
Why don't you just copy and paste an entire FAQ into the comments section for their next endurance run, you'd save them all of that time searching through individual comments.   You'd make pushing 'X' even less fun. "

There's already 2 different guides on their own website that explain how to get each ending. I'm not advocating the spoiling of the game to people, I'm just pointing out how futile it is to get mad at the people posting advice/spoilers in the comments when there are tons and tons of resources Vinny and Jeff could use to get the same information. And it honestly wouldn't be that hard for them to completely avoid all spoilers and help if they really wanted to.

I don't understand what the appeal is of seeing them playing through the game completely ignorant. Have you considered the possibility that Jeff and Vinny are just like the majority of gamers out there, and wanted to get the best ending?

"

INFINITE QUOTES!

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So I'm the only person who thinks it may have been a possibility that Jeff and Vinny had actually seen the ending thing? Only a possibility though. "
Jeff has said multiple times  that he had seen spoilers, but theres no telling how much he has seen. 
I have no doubt that he would play dumb even if he knew everything, as a matter of fact I suspect that he does.
 
....conspiracy!

Vinny is completely clueless I think.
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@Karmann said:
" Whoa, heavy, anyone think that maybe, they're cutting the episodes short, to stall the ending until friday??? "
Not unless they really spam it, they are still a good 5-6 hours away from an ending. 
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ADACHI DID IT!!!!!!!!!!
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Teddie did it!

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@sixghost: The killer needed to be aware of the midnight channel, yes, but he didn't necessarily need to be aware of who was on it. He just needed to know enough to convince Namatame to throw people in because, if you remember correctly, the killer is only suspected of the first two murders and everything after that was actually orchestrated by Namatame. Namatame admits this himself during the previous hospital scene. The killer also doesn't need to have any connection to or control over who appears on the midnight channel. 
 
I'm keeping this spoiler-free, but suffice it to say that everything I said up there is absolutely true and anything you think is contradictory will be explained.
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Don't wish for long episodes because I have the feeling this is gonna end soon. I think that unless they get spoiled or look it up, there is very little chance they'll get the best ending with the extra dungeon. Just too many specifics they'd have to do to get it and too easy to fall off that path.

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@Davin: What? The best ending has very few specifics and it is very difficult to fall off of that path, if you can even call it a path. There is only one option, repeated twice, only yes or no. This is it. Not rocket science.
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@Eros: Unless you know what to do, there is one very simple yet unimportant question asked. If you think nothing of it and just go along with it,  the game ends right there. I very much feel they could do just that.
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Tomorrow, shit will hit the fan...

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Cliffhanger!!!

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Deductive reasoning like whoa, son!

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@Eros said:
" @Davin: What? The best ending has very few specifics and it is very difficult to fall off of that path, if you can even call it a path. There is only one option, repeated twice, only yes or no. This is it. Not rocket science. "
It's impossible to fall off the path once you're on it, yes.  But to even realize that the path is there to be initiated in the first place, it is so obscure it borders on ridiculous.
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I dont know, its pretty pointless giving advice at this point. i have strong feeling Vinny and Jeff know what they are doing. I mean, they did not forget about the whole "controller of the midnight channel" possibility, so its even possible they will accomplish the True ending without any help. 
 
 
either that or they are totally FAQ'n it up.
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@Eros: But without guidence, there is practically no chance of them just randomly replying no to that option twice - if it's the option I think you're talking about (by the Junes elevator). 
 
And @Davin: what are you talking about it ending soon? There is still fighting to be done between now and the normal ending, which will take a week up of episodes on its own.
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@Mattalorian said:
" Deductive reasoning like whoa, son! "
Whoa!
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@samcotts: Perhaps true, but a week in something that has been going on for months is a mere drop in the bucket.
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@Eros said:
" @sixghost: The killer needed to be aware of the midnight channel, yes, but he didn't necessarily need to be aware of who was on it. He just needed to know enough to convince Namatame to throw people in because, if you remember correctly, the killer is only suspected of the first two murders and everything after that was actually orchestrated by Namatame. Namatame admits this himself during the previous hospital scene. The killer also doesn't need to have any connection to or control over who appears on the midnight channel.   I'm keeping this spoiler-free, but suffice it to say that everything I said up there is absolutely true and anything you think is contradictory will be explained. "

Am I missing something big as to the connection between the midnight channel on the victims? Unless I'm hugely mistaken, it's accepted that there is a connection between people appearing on the midnight channel, and those people being killed or kidnapped to avoid being killed. Therefore the only two possible causes of the connection is that the people appear on the channel because the killer intends to kill them, or he intends to kill them because they appear on the channel.

The killer has to know who is on the midnight channel in either case.

And I was of the understanding that Namatame was kidnapping the people to avoid them being killed by the murderer. Even though he isn't suspected in the cases other than the first two, why would there be any reason to believe the murderer had no intention to continue after Namatame started to intervene? If people were still appearing on the midnight channel, the killer was still intending to kill them.

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 When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

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So... It was Scooby Doo logic that proved that Adachi was the killer. 
 
"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids and that stupid bear!"

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Oh my god this has officially become better than TV! Everytime a question gets answered, more questions come up! The damn pictures on the wiki page spoiled something for me, but in all honesty, they added so much more confusion to this already impossible to predict plot.
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I'm not saying Jeff did or didn't know who the killer was ahead of time, but I will say this: I did look up on the FAQs how to not get the bad ending. The guide I was reading did a good job in concealing the killer's identity by spelling out his name vertically and backwards, I think. Even though I used the guide to find out Namatame wasn't the killer, Adachi was still the first suspect on my list. Seriously. There's hardly anyone else that fits the criteria. Plus it almost sounds like some of you wanted them to get the bad ending and finish the endurance run right then in there.

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I hope they do check out the bad and double-bad endings on youtube.  They're awesome(ly depressing.)

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Yosuke: "Are we really on the right path here?"  Given that the entire conversation was voice-acted, I'd say "YES!"
 

SEEKERSOFTRUTHGO!

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Maggie did it.

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We're all missing the point here, this ensures the Christmas Eve event!!! Yay!

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@FrankCanada97 said:
" We're all missing the point here, this ensures the Christmas Eve event!!! Yay! "
Unless they finish the next dungeon after the 22nd.
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To whoever sneezed towards the end of the video: "Bless you"

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Obvious killer is drama girl, even if she's not the killer in Persona4, she's so dramatically messed in the head that someone is bound to die. 
 
Would have been funny if the list of killers included some of the names of the developers of Persona 4 to see just how surreal the game gets.

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I am sad that I will have to miss the rest of this week's episodes.  But then, I realize that I will be in Miami.
 
If only I had an iPhone with the Giant Bomb app!!!

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Good ending part 2 done. Seekers of Truth, go!!
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@Curufinwe said:
" I hope they do check out the bad and double-bad endings on youtube.  They're awesome(ly depressing.) "
Could someone link them? I don't wanna go looking for them and end up seeing the (good?) ending they are currently headed for.
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This episode was very inquisitive. and I agree with jeff that it is totally Adachi.

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YUNG D........DIRRTRY D
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@Crixaliz: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymxLFf70HAE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8x5dHaYh8o
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I wonder if as much voice acting was recorded for the other choices

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Am I the only one who thinks Yukiko's neckerchief is rather fetching?

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I just want to give a shout out to all the commenters who ruined the ending the whole way through, and continue to do so. Thanks a lot.

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Based on the list of suspects and the way the information presented to you, Adcahi is the only person that you can't completely rule out and the only one that makes even a little sense. I don't think Jeff needed a FAQ or a guide. You can put it together logically with out to much difficultly.

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@Gnome said:
" I wonder if as much voice acting was recorded for the other choices "
 
No voice acting for other choices.If you choose other than Adachi,only some texts appear telling you some reason why your choice is wrong and then you are given another chance to choose.If you choose other than Adachi three times in a row,tadaa!!!!Bad Ending is rewarded to you :P
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Lulz at Jeff and Vinnie not realizing who Kashiwagi and Hanako are.
 
Kashiwagi is that teacher who joined the school after Morooka died. The one in the beauty pageant.

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I've thought it was Adachi for a long time now. Not sure why, but there was something about him...
Love the Endurance Run. Can't wait for tomorrow's episode.

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@buzz_clik: I agree with you, it is rather.... pleasing to me.
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If you guys really think that Jeff needed a FAQ to tell the killer was Adachi then you guys are idiots. Adachi was an obvious suspect from the very beginning and was my early guess like 5 months ago.

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@Turambar: Sweet Thanks