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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 144

Just a heads up everybody, anything named "Deathbound" is probably bad news.

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

Sep. 3 2009

Cast: Jeff, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

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whats with all the tapping in the background? someone playing beatles rockband?

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This game can be brutal, when your cruising through battles with ease for the longest time and one chance bad encounter and it's game over in a flash like it just happened now and then you guys go and get  into a hilarious battle at 28:22.

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Its almost time to say goodbye to Blackfrost ;(

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@Zaerus said:

" ok Vinny here's a haiku...  Playin persona...Feelin good about mah deckGoddammit not deathbound! "

Not as good as my poem for Episode 70
 
 ' Pyro Jack we were with you,  
But we never watched your back.
When times were rough
And times were tough.
You were with us Pyro Jack
We thought you were a vegtable,
Some thought you were a fruit.
But you were even better,
A bold and flaming mute.
 
 R.I.P. Pyro Jack ' - Cirdain
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Suicidal shadows are no joke guys.
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@Seiken_Enhasa said:
@dbz1995: Not true. Mahakala is the ultimate Death persona, not Alice. "

Exactly right, but one other thing, Alice requires a special set of personas to fuse, remember the glowing purple persona that kept showing up in the velvet room?  Nebiros and I think Belial are the components.  There's actually a few persona which require very specific components and Alice is one of them.
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Episode 144. OMG!

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not to sound like a dick, but do you guys have to fuse every 5 seconds?
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What was that weird flapping noise?

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That one fight with all the craziness was truly epic.  Can't wait to see what is in store for tomorrow.  Also, Monday is Labor Day here in the US so I wonder if we'll have an ER ep that day or not.

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Vinny, huge fan, but if you don't put Trumpeter in you don't get any benefit from having it. Kinda critical to the process.

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Mother Harlot's repel Phys is nice, but don't forget Belial has resist phys and mother HUGE fire damage. Use both.

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That kartikeya looked pretty awesome. Wonder why they didn't want to get it?

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Jeff, auto-sukukaja is evasion.  Auto-matarukaja is attack for everyone.  Yes, fuse karitikeya.

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I know you guys probably won't read this, but just in case,  DON'T REPLACE DEBILITATE WITH HEAT RISER. I can just see it happening, and that would be a very bad decision, as Debilitate is a much more useful move. Casting Debilitate on a boss is basically the same as casting Heat Riser on all your party members at once.
 

@skrutop

said:

" Hey guys, I was thinking about how you have Chie set up.  You gave her the Icicle Vow (or whatever it's called) to boost her ice.  Her ice is useless to you at this point; it doesn't do enough damage for it to matter.  The only thing you need it for is to knock down enemies who are weak to ice.  If you give her the demon shoes, you can swap out the Icicle Vow for something with better defense to balance out losing the evade phys.  Alternatively, you could give her an accessory that boosts her attack even more and turn her into a paper tiger.  Doesn't she have more HP than the rest of the party anyway? "

Didn't they replace her Icicle Vow with a Reisin Brace (+4 to all stats) last episode?
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@Zeik: They did.
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@Cirdain said:
" @Zaerus said:

" ok Vinny here's a haiku...  Playin persona...Feelin good about mah deckGoddammit not deathbound! "

Not as good as my poem for Episode 70
 
 ' Pyro Jack we were with you,  
But we never watched your back.
When times were rough
And times were tough.
You were with us Pyro Jack
We thought you were a vegtable,
Some thought you were a fruit.
But you were even better,
A bold and flaming mute.
 
 R.I.P. Pyro Jack ' - Cirdain
"
yeh =p ur right thats funnier & far better, though this never was a competition =]
More like f-in around
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I lol'd when they died.

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@Zaerus said:

" @Cirdain said:

" @Zaerus said:

" ok Vinny here's a haiku...  Playin persona...Feelin good about mah deckGoddammit not deathbound! "

Not as good as my poem for Episode 70
 
 ' Pyro Jack we were with you,  
But we never watched your back.
When times were rough
And times were tough.
You were with us Pyro Jack
We thought you were a vegtable,
Some thought you were a fruit.
But you were even better,
A bold and flaming mute.
 
 R.I.P. Pyro Jack ' - Cirdain
"
yeh =p ur right thats funnier & far better, though this never was a competition =] More like f-in around "
Damn I spelt Vegetable wrong you win
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Are you guys using an off balance clothes dryer in the background? What on earth is that noise throughout more than half the video? 
 
Anyways, good episode. Crazy fight wins.

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I like how at 2:44 you can hear Brad go "Um..Ryan.." and then 15 minutes later, boom, guitar hero/rock band noises.

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That Deathbound was nasty...

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@heavymtlhead said:

"not to sound like a dick, but do you guys have to fuse every 5 seconds? "

Yeah...  I guess they overestimate the use of fusing.  In my playthrough of Persona 4, I only fused to get rid of lower level Personas and if I found something useful out of them, then great!  But I never fused higher than a triple and I almost never went in the compendium to take back a Persona I wanted, except for Social Link purposes.  Fusing is really boring, especially when you're looking at two others do it.  They have all the Personas they need to make it to the end of the game with... they shouldn't have to fuse anymore.
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After months, I am finally up to date on the Endurance Run! It's been a pleasure fellas.

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@heavymtlhead said:

" not to sound like a dick, but do you guys have to fuse every 5 seconds? "

That's part of the game.  I feel like playing P4 now.
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  7:50 Nice job brad ^_^    

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Wind Amp + Wind Boost + Wind Accessory will not stack, you will only get +75% and the Accessory is useless
 
Wing Amp + Wind Accessory will give you +60 to +100%, depending on the Accessories strength. Yosuke would be getting +90% total with a +40% accessory. This gives him the second most powerful attack in the game (first being a special skill that only Yoshitsune has)

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@King9999 said:
"@heavymtlhead said:

" not to sound like a dick, but do you guys have to fuse every 5 seconds? "

That's part of the game.  I feel like playing P4 now. "
I still managed to beat the game without fusing any higher-than triple Personas or by fusing as much at all.  Even though it's part of the game, it's a somewhat boring part for most and if it's not necessary to fuse that much.
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Sounded like a rhythm game going on in the background there. Perhaps the guys got a copy of The Beatles: Rock Band?

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I've seen the main P4 artbook which is player characters and their Personas, but is there a collection of *every* fusable Persona's 2D art?  Haven't seen such a beast come up in searches.

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Ah, there's nothing I love more than grinding to level 99 while watching an episode of the ER.

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 When I find myself in times of trouble,
Mother Harlot comes to me.

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Let it be.

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I really, really doubt they will do this but if you guy ever forget what some of the auto-____ does, you can always refer to the Persona 4 booklet, provided with the game,  on page 32. They list all the buffs as well as many common spells and also lists SP usage. Just a head's up. 
 
Also, I know this is like from 80 episodes ago but I have this P4 booklet in my hand so I'm gonna say this 
 
Ikayaki: A common festival dish in which a whole squid is grilled and basted with soy sauce.
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I really don't want to be that guy who takes the Endurance Run too seriously and comes off as a buzz-killing douchebag, but sometimes you guys make no fucking sense whatsoever.  You guys keep complaining about Chie being underpowered, and instead of healing her, you knowingly kill her off while fighting the robot so you can do little-to-no damage with Yukiko's sucky fan, thereby getting her none of that 7,500 XP she really could have used to be slightly less underleveled.  It's dumb shit like that that keeps her underleveled. :|

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Is that Ryan clicking away at Guitar Hero in the background at certain times?
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well, im guessing now that they've figured that "will die for you" doesn't work on AoE attacks.

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You guys do know that someone dead at the end of battle doesn't get any EXP, right?

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Is Ryan playing Guitar Hero 5 in the background at the end?

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For Jeff:
 

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I personally thinks that the chests with shadow inside suppose to have "IT" inside.But,since this is only the first playthrough,"IT" is substituted by strong shadows instead.I believe those who played P4 at least twice know what is this "IT" I mentioned about :P

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@FluxWaveZ: 
 
Whether the fusion is boring or not,it depends on the way gamers want to play.The main reason I like playing persona is fusion.Nothing make me happier other than fusing a persona that can make me survive in the most extreme condition like fighting a boss alone(either because you play solo or all 3 other members died) in expert mode,the boss can act twice in a round and then you can still survive and win the battle.
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@CitizenKane: Hells yes!
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 I can totally hear Ryan in the background playing Beatles Rock Band... clackity, clackity, clack.

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@amino said:
" @FluxWaveZ:   Whether the fusion is boring or not,it depends on the way gamers want to play.The main reason I like playing persona is fusion.Nothing make me happier other than fusing a persona that can make me survive in the most extreme condition like fighting a boss alone(either because you play solo or all 3 other members died) in expert mode,the boss can act twice in a round and then you can still survive and win the battle. "
But obviously, the Endurance Runners don't appreciate it to that extent.  So if they can reduce the time they spend in the Velvet Room, they should.
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@vunna said:
" @Satune said:
"LOL I love monster chests! "
They are a little frightening at first.  But be brave. . .you can handle the great responsibility of staring into her eyes and not her chest.  Be strong and fight the urge. "
ohhh, you fucking win.
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@FluxWaveZ said:
" @amino said:
" @FluxWaveZ:   Whether the fusion is boring or not,it depends on the way gamers want to play.The main reason I like playing persona is fusion.Nothing make me happier other than fusing a persona that can make me survive in the most extreme condition like fighting a boss alone(either because you play solo or all 3 other members died) in expert mode,the boss can act twice in a round and then you can still survive and win the battle. "
But obviously, the Endurance Runners don't appreciate it to that extent.  So if they can reduce the time they spend in the Velvet Room, they should. "
They're playing the game like they would if they didn't have a huge crowd. Just forward until they're done fusing if you think it's so boring.
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@Azteck said:
" @FluxWaveZ said:
" @amino said:
" @FluxWaveZ:   Whether the fusion is boring or not,it depends on the way gamers want to play.The main reason I like playing persona is fusion.Nothing make me happier other than fusing a persona that can make me survive in the most extreme condition like fighting a boss alone(either because you play solo or all 3 other members died) in expert mode,the boss can act twice in a round and then you can still survive and win the battle. "
But obviously, the Endurance Runners don't appreciate it to that extent.  So if they can reduce the time they spend in the Velvet Room, they should. "
They're playing the game like they would if they didn't have a huge crowd. Just forward until they're done fusing if you think it's so boring. "
And that's what I'm saying!  They overestimate the value of fusing in the game!  It's not necessary to fuse as much to succeed.  As you can see in the latest episode: the Personas they have can wreck any shadow that they encounter but they'll end up fusing in a later episode anyways.  They could do it just to get rid of the Shuffle Time Personas, but they'll end up taking much more time to try to get powerful Personas and re-shuffle skills when it's not even needed.  So, I ask you, what's the point there?