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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 95

We give the B team some love and head back into Marukyu.

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

Jun. 26 2009

Cast: Jeff, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

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Ah, the dreaded Best Buy disease.
RESIST THE URGE, VINNY! FACE YOUR FEARS!

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Quick tip:

You can get an Arcana Chance even if you pick a blank card from the shuffle. Use this to aim for an upright Moon card (probably the best card - gives more EXP).

So even if you don't want the Persona on offer in the Shuffle Time, aim for a blank card and you might still get something out of it.

Edit: Figures I'd finally remember to post this tip quarter way through the video because otherwise I keep forgetting, only for you guys to figure it out in this episode anyway...

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The bonus boss for Void Quest has a nice sword for Charlie, when you guys get there.

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...I like just ketchup on my hot dogs!

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@hakunin said:
" @Konanda said:
" If a persona is weak to a certain skill affinity than it will not inherit it ever. Just so you know. "
Though this is generally true, there are a few exceptions. White Rider and Sarasvati for example. "
Sure, plus their Neko Shogun inherited Garula and he's weak to wind I believe.
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Gertsmann, you hate mustard? I can forgive your Tom Hanks feelings now.

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Mustard is delicious and it is also effective as a zombie repellant.


...and knowing is half the battle.
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If there's a Fry's Electronics near you, try that for the video cards as the one near me has 2-3x the amount of video cards than the dinky Best Buy selection.

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People who bitch about people putting ketchup on their hot dogs need to be put down.

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I was totally into the whole coversation about video cards on this ER.

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I love when they go back to an area because it is like another podcast. They talk about anything that's on their minds.

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Pretty ok ep, a little boring perhaps but even the boring ones are worth my time...

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hot dogs + ketchup + relish = the best.

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You guys shouldn't be wasting your time in the lower dungeons unless you're farming for certain items or going to fight the optional boss. You'll save a lot of time if you want to grind for whatever reason by fighting in the latest dungeon.

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this one was it bit ok, if a little slow, probably only because I can't wait to hear their comments on the school trip and the last few dungeons.  Enjoy your weekend guys and enjoy an awesome pic.

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I'm still without a gaming PC since i did something stupid and fucked it all up.  It started when i downloaded this application from nvidia to overclock my video card apparently i pushed it beyond it's limits.

That was a year ago, since i've only been playing games on my 360.

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@youcanmakeanythingoutofhemp said:
"@Eurobum said:
" @monkie89 said:
" Jeff Gerstmann: "There's a crowd of people who seem totally unwilling to accept the concept that not every game is for every person."
Jeff Gerstmann: "How can anyone like Dynasty Warriors? These games are garbage. Fact." "
A perfect contradiction, thanks for pointing it out.


@Eurobum: Just because some games are not meant for all people, does not mean that some other games are not 100% garbage.  I am not saying that Dynasty Warriors falls in the second category, just that those are not necessarily contrary statements."

Fact: What Jeff said in the quick look was clearly a joke while also a commentary on how much he personally didn't like Dynasty Warriors.  You'll both understand when you hit age 12.
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@Brendan said:
Fact: What Jeff said in the quick look was clearly a joke while also a commentary on how much he personally didn't like Dynasty Warriors.  You'll both understand when you hit age 12. "
There's certainly someone here who can't spot a joke. Wonder who it could be...?
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@Mechabolic said:
"this one was it bit ok, if a little slow, probably only because I can't wait to hear their comments on the school trip and the last few dungeons.  Enjoy your weekend guys and enjoy an awesome pic.
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Hahahahaha, wow nice find!
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holy crap 64 min dudes

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@Brendan said:
Fact: What Jeff said in the quick look was clearly a joke while also a commentary on how much he personally didn't like Dynasty Warriors.  You'll both understand when you hit age 12. "

@Brendan:
Wow, my point was those statements did not seem completely contrary to me when taken out of context (of which I was not even exactly familiar with). I'm not sure why you felt the need to jump down my throat with an ad hominem attack. You sure taught me to come out of my lurking.

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You mentioned not wanting to do Margaret's Requests but I really do have to insist on doing them. You won't regret having achieved Rank 10 with her by end game. Don't want to spoil anything besides that but trust me when I say you'll both flip.

Oh, and a more practical reason to do so (if I remember correctly) you'll also get discounts on bringing out Persona from the Compendium.

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I really hope they wait till episode 100 to go on the school trip, otherwise episode 100 will be pretty uneventful.

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@RVonE said:
" @monkeybot said:
"Why do they keep on doing this? This is so fucking inane. This is like ,  the third time they have trained here.

"
They haven't fought the optional boss in this dungeon yet. Usually, that gives some good xp and a nice item. "
Not really, by now it will give less xp then a fight in void quest.

And the idem will be outdated as well.

I really wish they stop grinding in those low level, just do in on void quest


  1. Its faster, MUCH faster
  2. but most of all its not boring
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This was almost like a shorter, very distracted podcast. They spend more time talking about PC building and Amra 2 and other things then paying attention to the game. Not that they really needed to while they just grind. It was actually pretty cool to hear Vinny and Jeff talk about other stuff

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mustard sucks, ketchup rules!

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i like the to hear you guys talking about games you play like that. i mean what games you actually like to play or not even if its for a review. you should do that more often ! i find it veery interesting

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@SmAsH: In fact, it@SmAsH said:
" @atomic_dumpling said:
" @Insectecutor said:
" Seriously, get an ATi card. They are currently the fastest and cheapest until nVidia produce something better. "
Well, the rule of thumb is: For sheer performance and more bang for the buck get ATI, for best image quality with maximum settings pick nVidia. Nothing beats clamp & 16xHQ AF, if you can run that smoothly. "
Honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That's a hell of a argument you make there. Incredibility thought out, blindingly eloquent, extremely backed up with facts and not condescending at all.
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I have had that conversation about upgrading my PC so many times over the past few months. At some point I realised that I had no idea what PC hardware (especially graphics cards) was good and what was bad anymore.

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They can definetly cheat the next few episodes and save the school trip for Episode 100.  Here's how:

96. Fight the Momentary Child
97. Run the Void Quest
98. Fight the Escapist Soldier
99. Progress to right before the trip
100. Experience school trip
101. ???
102. Profit!

Sure, you'll get a few 15-minute episodes, but the one-two punch of Episode 50 and 100 would be something.

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@gakon5 said:
"Sure, you'll get a few 15-minute episodes, but the one-two punch of Episode 50 and 100 would be something. "
There is a way to add a bit of filler to make sure there are no 15-minute episodes but it won't be popular. Fusion (aka Vinny yelling at the TV as he can't get that one particular skill he wants).
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@AdH0c said:
" @gakon5 said:
"Sure, you'll get a few 15-minute episodes, but the one-two punch of Episode 50 and 100 would be something. "
There is a way to add a bit of filler to make sure there are no 15-minute episodes but it won't be popular. Fusion (aka Vinny yelling at the TV as he can't get that one particular skill he wants).
"
Oh yeah, sure, if they've leveled up enough to find some new Personas to fuse.  There's a solid 5 minutes of extra video to be had just on skill rereolling!
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There is nothing wrong with the application of ketchup to a hot dog. In fact, a hot dog with ketchup, mayonnaise and hot peppers is one of god's great gifts to men.

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The school trip will be the same whether it happens in the 100th episode or not. Stalling just to adhere to some arbitrary number would be heading down a bad (and stupid) road.

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@atomic_dumpling said:
" @SmAsH: In fact, it@SmAsH said:
" @atomic_dumpling said:
" @Insectecutor said:
" Seriously, get an ATi card. They are currently the fastest and cheapest until nVidia produce something better. "
Well, the rule of thumb is: For sheer performance and more bang for the buck get ATI, for best image quality with maximum settings pick nVidia. Nothing beats clamp & 16xHQ AF, if you can run that smoothly. "
Honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
That's a hell of a argument you make there. Incredibility thought out, blindingly eloquent, extremely backed up with facts and not condescending at all. "
Thanks at least we both see that you don't know what you are talking about.
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@hakunin:
I dont think there are "few" exceptions,actually any Personas may inherit skill which they are weak to.Asura can inherit Magarudyne although its weakness is wind.Thor and Ishtar also can inherit Magarudyne.Sraosha may have Mamudoon.Even Attis learns Mamudoon although its weakness is darkness.
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It's Balzac Jeff, not Ball Sack :P

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@youcanmakeanythingoutofhemp said:
" @Eurobum said:
" @monkie89 said:
" Jeff Gerstmann: "There's a crowd of people who seem totally unwilling to accept the concept that not every game is for every person."
Jeff Gerstmann: "How can anyone like Dynasty Warriors? These games are garbage. Fact." "
A perfect contradiction, thanks for pointing it out.


@Eurobum: Just because some games are not meant for all people, does not mean that some other games are not 100% garbage.  I am not saying that Dynasty Warriors falls in the second category, just that those are not necessarily contrary statements. "
After giving this some thought - the contradiction is not apparent, i see it as more of an inner struggle. At some point reasonable Jeff seems to appreciate the fact that it's different games for different folks, at another time comical Jeff* can't understand how anyone could possibly like a game, that he doesn't value.

Formally there is no contradiction, if we assume that Jeff inludes himself into the "crowd of people who seem totally unwilling to accept that not every game is for every person."

The second role (comical Jeff) is that of a judgmental ignoramus, most prominently caricatured by the host of the Colbert Report. However most of the times people unironically do the judgmental ignoramus routine: "I don't understand why or how, but I have a radical and racy opinion and intend to annonce it."
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@Eurobum said:
" @youcanmakeanythingoutofhemp said:
" @Eurobum said:
" @monkie89 said:
" Jeff Gerstmann: "There's a crowd of people who seem totally unwilling to accept the concept that not every game is for every person."
Jeff Gerstmann: "How can anyone like Dynasty Warriors? These games are garbage. Fact." "
A perfect contradiction, thanks for pointing it out.


@Eurobum: Just because some games are not meant for all people, does not mean that some other games are not 100% garbage.  I am not saying that Dynasty Warriors falls in the second category, just that those are not necessarily contrary statements. "
After giving this some thought - the contradiction is not apparent, i see it as more of an inner struggle. At some point reasonable Jeff seems to appreciate the fact that it's different games for different folks, at another time comical Jeff* can't understand how anyone could possibly like a game, that he doesn't value. Formally there is no contradiction, if we assume that Jeff inludes himself into the "crowd of people who seem totally unwilling to accept that not every game is for every person."The second role (comical Jeff) is that of a judgmental ignoramus, most prominently caricatured by the host of the Colbert Report. However most of the times people unironically do the judgmental ignoramus routine: "I don't understand why or how, but I have a radical and racy opinion and intend to annonce it." "
Saying that not every game is for every person does not mean that there cannot be a game that is for no one.
Any one who likes Dynasty Warriors simply has not been introduced to a better game.
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@Eurobum said:
" @youcanmakeanythingoutofhemp said:
" @Eurobum said:
" @monkie89 said:
" Jeff Gerstmann: "There's a crowd of people who seem totally unwilling to accept the concept that not every game is for every person."
Jeff Gerstmann: "How can anyone like Dynasty Warriors? These games are garbage. Fact." "
A perfect contradiction, thanks for pointing it out.


@Eurobum: Just because some games are not meant for all people, does not mean that some other games are not 100% garbage.  I am not saying that Dynasty Warriors falls in the second category, just that those are not necessarily contrary statements. "
After giving this some thought - the contradiction is not apparent, i see it as more of an inner struggle. At some point reasonable Jeff seems to appreciate the fact that it's different games for different folks, at another time comical Jeff* can't understand how anyone could possibly like a game, that he doesn't value. Formally there is no contradiction, if we assume that Jeff inludes himself into the "crowd of people who seem totally unwilling to accept that not every game is for every person."The second role (comical Jeff) is that of a judgmental ignoramus, most prominently caricatured by the host of the Colbert Report. However most of the times people unironically do the judgmental ignoramus routine: "I don't understand why or how, but I have a radical and racy opinion and intend to annonce it." "
Saying that not every game is for every person does not mean that there cannot be a game that is for no one.
Any one who likes Dynasty Warriors simply has not been introduced to a better game.
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@JeffGoldblum said:
" @Eurobum said:
Saying that not every game is for every person does not mean that there cannot be a game that is for no one.Any one who likes Dynasty Warriors simply has not been introduced to a better game. "
I like Dynasty Warriors and yet I've probably played several times more games than you. What does that say?
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Go Vinny, Go!

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going and going

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I know I'm late to the party, but in the preview pic I thought Yukiko was carrying a hoagie into battle.  I enjoyed thinking it was a hoagie until I realized it was just a weird perspective on her fan.

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I like how they spent the entire episode not talking about the game at all.

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06:47  was just playing the crazy train riff right when Vinny said that. lol Weird
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@Ataxia: You think that's weird? I was just looking at a pic that was named "Watermelon" when Jeff said "watermelon!" around 20:20 mark.
 
Creepy.
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This episode is like a mini-Bombcast. I was playing WoW while the audio in this was playing. 

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@Hourai: Oh snap!  *High-Five* I do the exact same thing while checking out these old ERs.  If not WoW, then while I'm doing work.  It's some of the best stuff to have playing in the background while you're doing pretty much anything.
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I just kind of realized that I've played like 50 hours of this game, watched this far in the endurance run, and never even thought about the lyrics in any song in this game. I don't even know what they are saying. 
 
It could be in Japanese even, I've never really listened to it.