Giant Bombcast 02-05-2013

Man brad does not understand that stuff in the past was cheaper and more expensive now.

To Brad's question, the type of game where you start a timer and get a reward once the timer ends is called 'invest-express'.

Before I say anything about Dead Space 3, I just want to say I really liked the game, though it does have its cons.

The things in the ice in Dead Space 3, when there were two in solo play didn't bother me, but ones that kind of did, were when there were two suit places side by side. While there are some moments where in solo play it's weird that Carver gets to those places when you hardly ever see him get there, the point about him saying something to you during two different bosses isn't really far-fetched, it's just kind of dumb the first time, 'cause it seems unrealistic that he would talk to you at that time, and in that tone.

Yeah, I feel like Carver, at least on the solo play, wasn't great, and he even refers to characters that you wouldn't know from the game but from the novel, as well as just about his story in general, like his son. If you don't read about that stuff, which I don't imagine many doing, you're not going to know this stuff and you're going to see it as a weird thing to be put in the game. I'm going to play on co-op and see what that does for him, but he was a pretty mundane character and far less important then they make him seem when you go through it on your own.

It isn't until the tenth chapter (which is a good, good amount of time into the game) that you start getting interesting attachments for your weapons, before it you pretty much only have things like, have better stasis for you and your co-op partner, and small things like that. As for the setting, I disagree with Brad here, and to my own surprise. I love space settings, but only a few hours into the space part, I was ready to go to Tau Volantis, and once I did, I really, really liked it. The only time the game felt like it had some pretty repetitive moments, and I think the worst moments in the game, are the ones where you in the interiors of places, the exteriors were great I think.

I kind of agree with Brad on some of these points, but my dislike for the problems don't go as far as his does. If I scored this game, I'd give it a four at least. And Nicole isn't Isaac's wife! Fiancee/girlfriend.

Site has been sparse on content lately. Hopefully the bombcast will tide me over.

Skylanders

@GrantHeaslip said:

The bending over backward to be nice about The Cave is kind of questionable considering how close they are to Double Fine, or at least certain people there. I'm not claiming "COLLUSION!" — I think this is simple human nature — but it seems like they would have dismissed the game pretty quick had it not been a Double Fine release.

I kind of felt that as well - I think it's really on two parts; a) their friendship with Double Fine and b) the nature of the game. I think they WANT to like the game, because they find it charming and genuine and want to see more of these sorts of games, and are kind of bummed it sucks. However, I feel GB have real strong integrity and while they might not dish it out as hard verbally, I don't think their friendship with Double Fine or anyone or company will affect their review scores.

Would a kind soul please tell me (Or PM if you're afraid to spoil for others) what it is that Brad and Patrick are so shocked and amazed by about DmC? I have no intention of playing it until a Steam sale and, admitting, as one of the "I AM NOT LIKING THIS NEW DIRECTION!" guys it's making me curious/frustrated to for the past two weeks hearing them hint at some pivotal moment. I have my two guesses based on what I've seen from Adam's review and the dance club boss but I'm really hoping those are not it.

@GaspoweR said:

@walterbennet said:

I'm towards the end of DmC and I still don't quite know what the fuss Patrick and Brad were going on about "that moment." The whole game is filled with bonkers, off-the-wall stuff. What was the singular "moment," they were referring to?

I feel that they seem to be more prone to hyperbole (Brad even more so) than the rest of the staff at times when it comes to both positive and negative comments about certain games. Brad's GOTY filibustering often comes to mind. I didn't actually like DmC as much as I would have thought initially. Admittedly, I didn't buy it since I found the combat to be "off" for some reason from the demo and I didn't like the combat mechanics as much as Bayonetta or Ninja Gaiden.

I absolutely love the Bombcast, but I don't think my gaming opinions really side with any one personality among them. I can't recall a time where I completely agreed with their take on a game. Often they oversell something, and then undersell another game, or completely ignore it. *Shrug* To me, the show and the site are more about entertainment, and less a consumer's guide to games. And that's A-OK with me.

I just made an account to point this out guys.

I feel EA *already* crossed the line, it's alright but... they've crossed the line. You try to justify the costs by saying that if a dude wants to ruin his experience, *let him pay for it*. You know what, we called those things cheat codes and EVERYBODY had the opportunity to ruin their experience. It wasnt a privilege you bought, everybody had access to it.

Dont, dont ever justify them splitting YOUR game up and charging you for it. I love DLC but DLC that ADDS to a game, not DLC that takes something away from me and then sells it back to me, no matter how small that piece might me. Smell the salsa, the cheese or whatever. Game changing, monster gross things dont happen overnight. They happen slowly, just like EA is doing it right now. You get used to it and then you justify it.

"The water isnt so hot right now... maybe a tad hotter than it was 2 seconds ago but it's ok" thats what the frog kept thinking while it was boiled alive

@Malaguena said:

Dont, dont ever justify them splitting YOUR game up and charging you for it.

Welcome to Giant Bomb. I don't think you're wrong, but now it's time to face the devil's advocates. ;)

When you buy a book or a movie, do you call it your book or your movie? Would you complain if the Directors Cut scenes or the interviews or the blooper reel cost $1.99 extra on iTunes? They aren't part of the movie. And yes, books cost $60, and yes, movies still cost upwards of $25-$40 (google "Japan VHS prices" for some history).

What is so unique about the format of a video game that makes it yours? Why don't you just say to yourself, "Self, this retail package isn't $60 worth of content. I'm going to wait until it drops to a value I agree with."

They can slice games into a 20-part instalment plan for all I care. I'm going to pay what I want to pay for the experience I expect to get out of it. Entitlement doesn't give me any power as a consumer, it just makes me sad and angry and nostalgic for simpler times, when in fact worse games cost more than they actually do today.

3.5 hours of Bombcast? My prayers are answered.

Well, my heathen yearnings are, anyway.

@Malaguena: What about cheat devices that you had to buy to cheat? Not everyone has access to those.

I love Jeff's "Dude/Presenter Voice" when he takes the piss out of game executives... cracks me up.

@vaancor said:

I completed DMC. I have no idea what "moment" they're talking about. I didn't have any kind of "woah" experience at all. I liked the game btw.

No, Tokyo Drift takes place in the future, since Han dies but is in Fast and Furious and Fast Five

2 Fast 2 Furious takes place before Fast and Furious