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Quick Look: Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight

Jeff and Ryan take a gander at this, the fourth Command and Conquer game.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Mar. 19 2010

Cast: Jeff, Ryan

Posted by: Drew

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Crappity crap. MAKE GENERALS 2 DAMNIT! And I don't mean "Hey let's fuck up the series", just make Generals 2 with the same engine plus more gadgets and maps and I'll buy it twice.

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Edited By jeffk38uk

It's interesting that many are annoyed more at C&C4 not because of the story or general gameplay, but that it's a streamlined take on RTS, and not the classic build base and conquer, yet  C&C3 came out that was exactly the old formula but refined and it still got hatred from the C&C base. Given the main complaint of C&C is its still using the old system of RTS from many, its an odd rage when C&C actually tries to do something different.
 
That said, judging by the quick look, it seems they skimped a bit on the campaign a bit and focused more on said new gameplay and multiplayer. Still will check it out tho, if anything to see how they end this franchise storywise.

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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY COMMAND & CONQUER, YOU ANIMALS?!

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Edited By Robo

Jeff is right, the filmed cut scenes are TERRIBLE. I really hate that in these games.
It doesn't fit well at all and it is never done very well either.

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@Shifty_Mcfly:@Shifty_Mcfly said:

" @Majkiboy said:

" That serious tone is what i remember from early RTS games, including RA and C&C.. u guys don't remeber that? I find it kinda neat :D "

  
   Yup, that sure was serious. Those cut-scenes just seem campy in the wrong way. "
That was amazing...
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what have they done with my favourite series? What have they done?

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@Robo: Bullshit. The C&C3 ones were great, but 4's are simply half-assed. It's clear that the devs don't have any interest in the IP, so there's not even any starpower in it.
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This is the first QL that I couldn't stand to watch anymore!

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Edited By Jackel2072

wow this looks really dull. RIP C&C. we had some good times back when you were young and so full of life and promise

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@Terjay said:
" Crappity crap. MAKE GENERALS 2 DAMNIT! And I don't mean "Hey let's fuck up the series", just make Generals 2 with the same engine plus more gadgets and maps and I'll buy it twice. "
But Generals was shit from a butt! Why would anyone play a sequel to a game that was so bad?
 
And I liked C&C3, fuck all ya'll. Heck, this game doesn't even look that bad. It has interesting ideas, it's just a failure of executing those ideas. And quite frankly it is a shame Joe Kucan isn't getting the sendoff he deserves.
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the C&C4 DRM is bananas, pure shit* don't buy this. 
 
*by shit i mean for this : http://www.destructoid.com/command-conquer-4-drm-lose-internet-lose-all-progress-168276.phtml , not for the game's quality

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The GDI pins that the troops wear look like those wings that United Airlines give out to kids.  Also, I would like one (the United pin, that is).

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There is streamlining and there is dissolving.

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I'd probably play this if my laptop could run it...and if they didn't have that DRM.

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@august said:
" @HaYHaYHaY: Periods. Look into them. "
call me dumb but...  i don't get what you're saying... 
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Oh man, seeing this brings a tear to my eye. It's like watching a beautiful giant being slowly murdered because those in control of it cant comprehend its beauty. With the exception of Generals, which i never fully appreciated until years after it's release because i couldn't get past the idea of it not following the traditional Kane story, everything EA has ever done with the CnC brand has been garbage. Each game was worse and worse then the one before it, culminating in this. 
 
Breaks my heart to see one of the greatest franchises in video game history be reduced to this. It's a travesty to see such a venerable series of video game history be systematically destroyed in the name of share holders. 
  

R.I.P Command & Conquer.

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You where the reason i bought my first PC. 
You where the reason I taught myself all that i know about computers. 
You where the series that I so willingly gave so much of my life for. 
You where the reason that I still hear the sound clips of your characters running in my head to this day.
You where the game that kept me alive during difficult times in my life.
You where my childhood. 
 
You will be missed.
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Edited By FuzzYLemoN

Shame how this turned out. I'm a classic C&C fan and it's been kind of heartbreaking to see the series go downhill ever since Generals.

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It seems like they went for a Stargate SG-1/Battlestar Galactica vibe with the tone of the FMVs.

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You guys really need to do something about the volume on your Quick Looks.  Your voices are okay, I guess, but the volume of the game is flat out inaudible.  Not usually a problem, except when you sit quietly while we watch the game.
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YOU WHERE

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The first C&C was great back then - this is just crap

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@Jeffk38uk:  Totally agree.  People seem to only bitch the obvious and the unwarranted and not the actual flaws of the game.  That and if they do complain, they don't explain or elaborate.  Simply that it "sucks" and such.  I'm so glad those types of people don't have day jobs covering games.
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I guess it's fitting that for the finale they took C&C behind the shed, shot it, and then pissed on the corpse. 
 
Yeah in case you couldn't tell I'm not  happy about what they did to it.
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I liked the Generals/Zero Hour and Red Alert universes (YES! Even Red Alert 3, you haters!) but this has fallen too far from it's roots I'm afraid.
I would love to hear how the story ends, but I'll just wikipedia the story to know how it finally ends.

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Wow. They managed to murder Command and Conquer. Impressive.

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@HaYHaYHaY said:
" @august said:
" @HaYHaYHaY: Periods. Look into them. "
call me dumb but...  i don't get what you're saying...  "
Go here and start listening at 6 minutes before the end.
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Yo, sort out your audio. 

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I've always hated live action cutscenes in video games since the first Resident Evil. Capcom learn't their lesson pretty quickly, it just clashes with the games graphics.

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I really liked C&C3 it was good classic C&C but this... i played the beta and thought why am i playing this when i have Dawn Of War 2 installed, and I hate comparing them.  Thats why i liked C&C3 it felt like they were just saying screw what others have done to the RTS genre were making a classic C&C game. 
 
Well it had to end some way... back to playing the old games.  I got a present for you, That was left handed.
 
 *Also RA3 was a step too far in my opinion.

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Beat it. Haven't liked the new artistic approach since they first showed it, and the gameplay didn't come in as any redeeming factor at all. I'd rank the Tiberium games something like 2>3>1>4.

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Just saying I'm not watching this quick look...played the beta for 2min and completely uninstalled the piece of garbage. It sucks and showing this in a quick look makes the quick look suck!

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I will play this for the story only.. Not that im even sure that is worth it.. Been at it for 2 hours and i dont really want to continue.. 

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@Stargate174 said:
" Just saying I'm not watching this quick look...played the beta for 2min and completely uninstalled the piece of garbage. It sucks and showing this in a quick look makes the quick look suck! "
Even if your right. Judging something in 2 min, in a beta non the least, is hardly fair.
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God DAMMIT....*gets on knees and screams into the sky* WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
...C&C is starting to go the way of the Sonic.  Please Devs.  No more of this.  BRING BACK THE CLASSIC STYLE.

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@Shifty_Mcfly said:

" @Majkiboy said:

" That serious tone is what i remember from early RTS games, including RA and C&C.. u guys don't remeber that? I find it kinda neat :D "

  
   Yup, that sure was serious. Those cut-scenes just seem campy in the wrong way. "
Nice one! Whipping out that clip made me all nostalgic !

Anyway, with serious I guess I mean the intention of being serious... 
I really can't lie, I feel that they are going for kinda the same storytelling-thing-ish-ness  

Or whatever... I was a kid back in those days! :D
Weird.. a strange urge is growing inside of me.. I need to play some Red Alert! Lets boot the Win98 partition ^^
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@Pakorn1: Yeah... and they missed, they missed hard.
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@ptys:
could argue fmv is the same

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Red Alert 3 was fantastic in my opinion it was the most extreme by far and my fav of the series, i have been looking forward to this but i gota same them cut scenes look a bit lame even for c & c. i still gota play it the crawler idea looks good altho this was pretty much done in red alert il have to wait and see tho cos ive got a few games to complete before this one,,, n1 for the quick look guys i apreciate it !!! 

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So, let's see, The only reason I played C&C was to build excessive and elaborate bases for hours on end, and that element is now gone forever. Smooth Move EA, very smooth.

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Uuuugh, this game looks terrible.  Class based?  Respawns? No resource or base management?  Why even call it an RTS?

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@Phoenix87 said:
"So, let's see, The only reason I played C&C was to build excessive and elaborate bases for hours on end, and that element is now gone forever. Smooth Move EA, very smooth. "

I think Jeff mentioned you can build bases by choosing the Defensive class at the begining of the mission.
I've never really played a C&C game before so i could be mistaken, the base building in this one could be very different then previous installments.
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@Shifty_Mcfly said:

" @Majkiboy said:

" That serious tone is what i remember from early RTS games, including RA and C&C.. u guys don't remeber that? I find it kinda neat :D "

  
   Yup, that sure was serious. Those cut-scenes just seem campy in the wrong way. "
     
I really enjoyed this one too ^^ 
  
"Useless things have a way of disappearing" and "control the media, control the mind."   =D 
 
Interestingly, I think Tiberian Sun is the only one in the series that you play as the characters of the story  (McNeil/Slavik), as opposed to playing as a "commander" (yourself).  Might be one reason I feel  TS has better acting since they are interacting with other actors instead of having monologues toward a camera (though it still has its cheesy moments at time ^^ )
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Muy Mal. Bad. I grew tired of liveaction cut scenes about the time Nirvana died out. The whole point of inovative computer graphics is  to make fake rendered things look recorded. Also the game play doesn't seem too much advanced.
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@Rekt_Hed said:
"God DAMMIT....*gets on knees and screams into the sky* WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ...C&C is starting to go the way of the Sonic.  Please Devs.  No more of this.  BRING BACK THE CLASSIC STYLE. "

EA said this is the last game in the Kane saga. Of course that really could mean anything but I think that the Tiberium universe is finished. I wouldn't worry about C&C turning into Sonic anytime soon if I were you.
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i never really liked C&C to begin with(cause i suck at RTS's and i dont have that much patience) but this does look SUPER BORING. so fuck this game
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Guys,fix the audio.Sometimes I cant hear the guys,then sometimes I cant hear the game at all.
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Weird, the guy you called a tailor... I'm pretty sure he sold me my first car 
 
EDIT: Thank god I took the time to watch this before buying.  This looks like a rushed poorly made World in Conflict mod.  Think I'll get supreme commander 2 instead.

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As a big fan of C&C since the first game. I loved C&C3 and Kane's Wrath and played them to death. This game looks so much worse in every way to C&C3 it isn't funny. The gameplay is shallow and not as fun like I feared. Graphics are the same. The music has changed to a pretty boring "epic" theme. The acting sucks and the whole tone is too serious. Tiberium has always had kind of a serious tone but like Predator it's serious but it also is just a lot of fun, hammy acting and over the top moments which make it awesome. Now it's just like some B-grade TV movie garbage. It also sucks it has no name actors now too.  TS had Michael Biehn and C&C3 had a whole list of sci-fi actors out of shows like Star Wars and Battlestar. Even the expansion had actors and a fantastic job by Carl Lumbly. This has bottom of the acting barrel nobodies.

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Agree with Jeff, this sums up my C+C4 experience totally, and the skirmish interest dies off quick!
3 on 3 classic or C+C3(tibiruium) was much more fun. 
The units have no real value, I dont understand how capturing points and gaining points really wins a battle if GDI and NOD have an infinite supply of Walkers.
Harvesting Tibirum is pointless and a joke.. EA just need to either drop the franchise or give it to someone who cares about releasing a real title.

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@Moonshadow101:  With you on this:
2>3>1>(4)
Don't really think that 4 diserves to be in the list to be honest..