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Quick Look: Wolfenstein: The New Order

Don't turn around, oh oh! Der Wolfenstein's in town, oh oh!

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

May. 20 2014

Cast: Brad, Vinny

Posted by: Vinny

In This Episode:

Wolfenstein: The New Order

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@brad It's okay, the teasing just gets annoying, I understand some people would get upset over "spoilers" but any quirks or throwaway jokes that would help communicate the tone of the game, I'd like to hear about.

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Bullet sponge even enemies on normal.

This is false.

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@adamwd said:

@ilikepopcans: probably because those people at least make some sense

I will hop in and say that this quick look should have been cut off at the hour mark at least. There's nothing informative or interesting to add past 45 minutes. Then it just becomes a video about two guys playing a game with the occasional dialog voicing out what they're doing. Even if you have to just awkwardly say "Whelp, that's just about it for _______", it would have been a way to end the video before it drug on. Also, I have no clue what their work flow is, but that added unnecessary amount of time piles up and it prevents them from getting more work done.

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The only thing I found interesting about this game was the nightmare sequence.

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Just read this on a steam review of the game.

"It is a good game but it is not worth $60. This game is an exact remake of bioshock infinite. Gameplay and graphics are exactly alike"

Oh internet, how I love thee.

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I'm not sure Brad played enough modern shooters to develop a mindset for it, taking cover etc, but knowing that he played so much Quake in the past it's a bit strange why it takes him so long to shoot people.

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I might get this, looks cool. And a fun quick look too.

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What Vinny said was funny, but the "Death's Head" reference is an actual historical reference. That is what the SS units were called that ran the concentration camps. So while it is a dumb reference calling the antagonist that, it is there for a reason. Would have thought Brad would known that.

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A word of warning: The last gen version of this (at least the PS3 version) looks like dogshit. The textures are muddy and the soundlevels are all over the place. I still really enjoy it and at the very least the framerate has been steady so far, but yeah, it looks like something that should have been released in 2007.

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"Amorous context." That's how I'm referring to all future relationships.

"Is it just me, or do I sense some amorous context?"

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I don't mind when Brad "plays badly" because everyone does that (especially in QLs), it's how he whines and gets frustrated that bothers me. He almost always (this QL having one exception as @adam1808 noted) blames the game for his misfortune. Of course there also is his progression-mania (the relentless need to progress his actual save file/get achievements/collectibles) which stalls the entire QL and is not fun for anyone but him. AND all the assumptions. AND all the flip-flopping (maaybe this game is bad/alright/not so good/great/etc.). AND the bad sportmanship (in multiplayer stuff).

But maybe we need the perspective of that type of gamer. So I'll stop complaining and enjoy the duders.

Okay, now that that is out of my system, about the game: Looks really cool, although base movement speed seems too slow (would of loved to see more old school zooming around).

I really enjoyed the use of jump cuts and other playful cinematic treatments. Seems strangely apt right after watching this Worth Playing. Definitely effective in both cases and worth seeing more of.

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@rvone: Why are you criticizing me for stating a problem I have with the QL and not with the people saying how much Brad suck at playing the game?

I'm not, though. I'm suggesting an alternate way to circumvent your issue with the Quick Look.

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I thought we were over the whole "grey shooter, with vague plot" thing.

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Huh. This game actually seems totally fine.

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There's something about this that I really like. It just seems like a good time.

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There's something about this that I really like. It just seems like a good time.

Looks like good dumb fun.

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There is a near obscene amount of depth of field going on here. Maybe it's just the engine being the engine, but either way it looks kind of ridiculous.

BJ Blazkovicz clearly needs a new glasses prescription.

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Wolfenstein dude needs some glasses to sort out that short sight he has going on

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After hearing that music I had to do a bit of research... yup, Music by Fredrik Thorendal. Fuuuuuuuu, why aren't people making a bigger deal about this?

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I do not like the look of the guns...at all. I know it is supposed to be futuristic and all, but they just seem so generic. Nothing like the classic Wolfenstein German weapons. I want my mp-40!

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This reminds me why I prefer to play FPS's with a mouse.

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After watching this I really hope this has a good PC port. Definitely picking it up if it does.

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@stryker1121 said:

Bullet sponge enemies even on normal?

this is complete TRUTH

RAGE was just like this, they should rename this game Spongenstein

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I thought we were over the whole "grey shooter, with vague plot" thing.

this actually looks pretty colorful

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The lead-up to this game looked promising, and the story stuff - even in this Quick Look - seemed cool, but the gameplay seems super dull. I'm not sure how much of this was how Brad was playing it, but it looked clunky and sort of unrefined.

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@everettescott said:
@ripelivejam said:

coupled w/ bad FOV

Isn't fov individual based and not so much a fact?

Kinda, also based on the screen - console games have lower FOV in large part because you sit farther from a TV than from a PC monitor, the lower FOV makes things in the distance easier to see on a screen farther away, but also matches your sense of perspective at that distance better, whereas you'd want a higher FOV, usually somewhere in the 90-100 range when you sit right in front of a monitor that covers a larger part of your vision.

Also, really weird to make the game a direct sequel to a game that is no longer available for sale - Wolfenstein 2009 was removed from Steam and all other digital outlets in 2012. When you preordered this you got a free copy of Return to Castle Wolfenstein, so I assumed it would be a sequel to that.

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I hope this is good, having really enjoyed that 2009 game.

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Really? I always thought it was Cryengine. Good to see more games on Id Tech5!

And yeah, pretty straight tone, Vinnie... how did you miss ALL of the trailers.

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Mein Leben!

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@civid: I've been looking at some footage over on youtube of the ps3 version and yeah, it looks super muddy. The thing I'm having trouble noticing though, is whether or not the game runs at 60 fps on ps3. I seem to remember that one of the big selling points about the id tech 5 engine was that all versions of the game run at 60 fps, though maybe this only applied to Rage. Does Wolfenstein actually run at 60 on the ps3 or is it just 30 fps at best?

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I like Brad and I'm not saying he shouldn't QL, 'cause I like him too much as a person and critic, but he did have a couple of "oh crap, enemies! Let's stand over there, out in the open, and get shot a lot"-moments. I know it's hard to talk and play games at the same time, I record videos for my own site, but you have to know when to stop talking and focus on the game. That's what the partner is for, to pick up the slack while you're trying to progress the game.

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Vinny was right, I've made a start and there seem to be missing some sound effects here and there, it's really weird.

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@rvone said:

@ilikepopcans said:

Yeah, this does not need to be 97 fucking minutes long. Sometimes less is more guys.

Conversely, you are not required to watch the entire 97 minutes. If you've gotten enough out of the video before it ends, stop watching the video.

NO IT MUST BE THE EXACT LENGTH I REQUIRE IT TO BE, ANYMORE OR ANY LESS AND THE CAPS COME OUT.

Yeah that's a stupid thing to bitch about

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The fact that this game exists is really weird to me. I don't know that there were too many people asking for it, or the previous, to warrant the effort that it took to make a full-fledged modern-console game. It looks nice and seems like it plays well, but I think the setting and story, the franchise lore, is not well renowned as the publisher might think. Don't get me wrong, there is nostalgia, and a fondness for what Wolfenstein was/is, I grew up playing it. I just don't know that there are people psyched to play a Wolfenstein game. I think someone browsing through games, in person or online, who sees Wolfenstein "out now" will either say to themselves "There's a new Wolfenstein game?!" or "What is Wolfenstein?".


Again, I think this looks pretty good, not saying I don't want to play it, I just had to get that out.

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Nazi bamboo. Very strong.

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This is tough to watch when being controlled by a game-pad. Reminds me of the original Wolfenstein when you could only turn with the keyboard... how far we've come since then... or not.

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@sinking said:

Really? I always thought it was Cryengine. Good to see more games on Id Tech5!

And yeah, pretty straight tone, Vinnie... how did you miss ALL of the trailers.

Before they said it was id tech 5 I assumed it was Starbreeze's own engine that they used for Riddick, The Darkness and Syndicate. Maybe it's just the general art direction these guys go for, but I thought it looked a lot like The Darkness.

Lots of parts look kinda muddy by today's standards, especially the textures which looked really low res even compared to most previous gen games, but there's still something about their use of lighting that looks pretty good.

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@jodokus_k: On the other hand, the temptation to just switch off the Quick look so you can buy the game and play it better yourself is pretty strong.

Publishers love him!

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@flowz0r said:

Bethesda managed to screw up the german version even more than usual.

Germany, Austria and Switzerland get the censored german version only, and it only comes in german, leaving something like 30% of Swiss people unable to play the game because they don't speak german.

Not to mention that the characters kind of lose their novelty when everyone speaks german all the time.

It's also impossible to get the regular version legit, unless you want to mess around with a VPN every single time you want to launch the game.

Well done, Bethesda, no more money from me.

Say thanks to USK not Bethesda, as for not speaking or understanding German in Switzerland, is blatant ignorance, even if you're from the French part, considering German is one of your official languages, and about 73% of your country speaks it daily, which makes it the major language, you would have a case if the game was in Italian, Romansh or even French because those languages are spoken in major minority in Switzerland.

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The game looks great, I like this engine and like how the game feels - judging from the quick look. I don't get why some reviewers gave it low scores, makes no sense, it's everything you could expect from a Wolfenstein game.

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@rvone said:

@ilikepopcans said:

Yeah, this does not need to be 97 fucking minutes long. Sometimes less is more guys.

Conversely, you are not required to watch the entire 97 minutes. If you've gotten enough out of the video before it ends, stop watching the video.

NO IT MUST BE THE EXACT LENGTH I REQUIRE IT TO BE, ANYMORE OR ANY LESS AND THE CAPS COME OUT.

Yeah that's a stupid thing to bitch about

yep

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how banned is this game in germany?

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@sharkman said:

@stryker1121 said:

Bullet sponge enemies even on normal?

this is complete TRUTH

RAGE was just like this, they should rename this game Spongenstein

Schwammenstein. >__<

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Get Psyched!

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THIS is the release of the week.

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I'm surprised that nobody mentioned how well directed the cutscenes are in this! I think I'm going to pick this up for sure! :)