When are review supposed to hit?

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#1 Posted by Dizzyhippos (1463 posts) -

Anyone know when the review embargo is up? I am super interested but obsidian games have been hit and miss in terms of performance and quality and want to wait for the reviews to start rolling in

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#2 Edited by Yusar (15 posts) -

I found a link to what is supposedly a review guide from Ubisoft. It's from Neogaf and unverified, so you know, grain of salt.

Here it is. Says the embargo lifts 8AM UK time on release day. Guess that's midnigt on the west coast?

#3 Edited by Wolfgame (760 posts) -

Any predictions on scores? I think a lot of it will come down to the games length and ability to maintain humor throughout

#4 Posted by Dizzyhippos (1463 posts) -

A release day embargo scares me a little bit makes me wonder if there confident or if they know something there hoping people dont find out about till they payed there money.

@wolfgame: Honestly if its a good 16-20 hour rpg that isn't technically busted that's more then enough for me, there haven't been may of those lately

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#5 Posted by Yusar (15 posts) -

@wolfgame: Yeah maintaining the humor through 10+ hours of game sounds challenging, but if they nail it it could be potentially amazing. I really liked the quick look of the first 20 minutes and if that's indicative of the game as a whole I've got pretty high hopes.

#6 Posted by Dizzyhippos (1463 posts) -
@yusar said:

@wolfgame: Yeah maintaining the humor through 10+ hours of game sounds challenging, but if they nail it it could be potentially amazing. I really liked the quick look of the first 20 minutes and if that's indicative of the game as a whole I've got pretty high hopes.

if there are two guys I trust to make something funny over a long period of time its the southpark guys, though if it is just 10+ hours of cartman that could get super old

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#7 Posted by ian280291 (114 posts) -

Alex said on Bombin' the AM that it was a release day embargo

#8 Edited by MachoFantastico (4719 posts) -

Been playing a fair amount of RPG's lately, but I'm intrigued by the Stick of Truth. Enjoyed what I've seen of it so far.

Hell, even if it's not great there's something about the South Park humor mixed in with what looks like solid RPG mechanics that interests me, they could do some crazy things. Shame it's being censored on console, PC version it is then.

#9 Posted by bunnymud (717 posts) -

From what I saw on Twitch over the weekend, I noticed the enemies hit like beasts. Still, take this with a grain of salt.

#10 Posted by AssInAss (2655 posts) -

@yusar said:

I found a link to what is supposedly a review guide from Ubisoft. It's from Neogaf and unverified, so you know, grain of salt.

Here it is. Says the embargo lifts 8AM UK time on release day. Guess that's midnigt on the west coast?

thank you for giving the UK time :D

#11 Edited by BasketSnake (1213 posts) -

It IS great. I'm level 13. Don't worry. I won't spoil it. The humor is the same old south park we love and it is consistent throughout. The jokes are also part of the battles. Homless people will ask you for chaaaaaange during battle.

#12 Edited by AlisterCat (5591 posts) -

This is exactly right. Seems like a solid game and will hinge mostly on your enjoyment of south park humour. For example... (minor spoiler)

The game seems based around a nazi zombie virus, and all the enemies use (intentionally) poorly cut excerpts from Hitler's speeches.

@machofantastico said:

Been playing a fair amount of RPG's lately, but I'm intrigued by the Stick of Truth. Enjoyed what I've seen of it so far.

Hell, even if it's not great there's something about the South Park humor mixed in with what looks like solid RPG mechanics that interests me, they could do some crazy things. Shame it's being censored on console, PC version it is then.

I watched two of the censored scenes on a stream and the abortion minigame just seemed bad. The streamer failed over a dozen times due to unclear instructions. Censorship sucks but at least you aren't missing anything. Hopefully they still keep the song though...

#13 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

@alistercat: I wonder how they will handle the German version with that. LOL

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#14 Posted by Wolfgame (760 posts) -

Not gonna link to any of the channels, but walkthrough/LP vids are already popping up on youtube for the game, I haven't watched any outside of seeing that it was clearly new footage, so that is one option if you are desperate to see how the game is handling its humor later in game. They will probably be pulled down or they may just let it slide since it is so close to release, either way its an option to see more of the game at the time of this post.

#15 Posted by Bocam (3762 posts) -

As someone who has finished the game I'll just say that the final boss fight sure does leave a lasting impression

#16 Edited by Darji (5294 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

Not gonna link to any of the channels, but walkthrough/LP vids are already popping up on youtube for the game, I haven't watched any outside of seeing that it was clearly new footage, so that is one option if you are desperate to see how the game is handling its humor later in game. They will probably be pulled down or they may just let it slide since it is so close to release, either way its an option to see more of the game at the time of this post.

There are twitch channels since a few days and they do not get pulled down at all. Someone actually finished the game 3 times already on twitch. Games length seems to be 15 hours with doing some sidequests so thats perfectly fine for me.

As for the score I am not really worried from what I saw it is great. However I really can not wait for some social commentary how you can not chose a woman as character or how this scene is racist, sexist etc. I really hope someone will something stupid like that with this game XD

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#17 Posted by ZolRoyce (709 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

Any predictions on scores? I think a lot of it will come down to the games length and ability to maintain humor throughout

Don't forget to factor in the classic Obsidian glitch fest they are famous for.
I'm thinking if there are really bad bugs we will see lots of 7's, 70's and high 3's and low 4's.
But a lot of the time Obsidian is only glitchy due to having a forced time limit (KOTORII) or using or using an engine that is already notoriously buggy (Fallout New Vegas) I could see this game being well developed engine wise and probably getting high 4's low 5's and 8's and 80's.
Of course I am pulling all of this from my ass, but it's fun to guess.

#18 Posted by Wolfgame (760 posts) -

@darji said:

@wolfgame said:

Not gonna link to any of the channels, but walkthrough/LP vids are already popping up on youtube for the game, I haven't watched any outside of seeing that it was clearly new footage, so that is one option if you are desperate to see how the game is handling its humor later in game. They will probably be pulled down or they may just let it slide since it is so close to release, either way its an option to see more of the game at the time of this post.

There are twitch channels since a few days and they do not get pulled down at all. Someone actually finished the game 3 times already on twitch. Games length seems to be 15 hours with doing some sidequests so thats perfectly fine for me.

As for the score I am not really worried from what I saw it is great. However I really can not wait for some social commentary how you can not chose a woman as character or how this scene is racist, sexist etc. I really hope someone will something stupid like that with this game XD

Your wish will surely be granted, we are at all time high for grand standing bs on those social issues. On the point of 15 hours of gameplay while completing side quests I can't say that feels adequate to me. I will probably look closer at this game in a month or two for price drops because $60 for 15 hours doesn't ring well for me. I was honestly hoping for at least 25-30 hours.

#19 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

@darji said:

@wolfgame said:

Not gonna link to any of the channels, but walkthrough/LP vids are already popping up on youtube for the game, I haven't watched any outside of seeing that it was clearly new footage, so that is one option if you are desperate to see how the game is handling its humor later in game. They will probably be pulled down or they may just let it slide since it is so close to release, either way its an option to see more of the game at the time of this post.

There are twitch channels since a few days and they do not get pulled down at all. Someone actually finished the game 3 times already on twitch. Games length seems to be 15 hours with doing some sidequests so thats perfectly fine for me.

As for the score I am not really worried from what I saw it is great. However I really can not wait for some social commentary how you can not chose a woman as character or how this scene is racist, sexist etc. I really hope someone will something stupid like that with this game XD

Your wish will surely be granted, we are at all time high for grand standing bs on those social issues. On the point of 15 hours of gameplay while completing side quests I can't say that feels adequate to me. I will probably look closer at this game in a month or two for price drops because $60 for 15 hours doesn't ring well for me. I was honestly hoping for at least 25-30 hours.

Length depends all on how you spend these hours in my opinion. Is it just meaningless stuff and filler I really do not want 20-30 hours. Of course long RPGs are great but I do not expect this much content from Southpark which is usually pretty fast and straightforward

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#20 Posted by Wolfgame (760 posts) -

@darji: quote tree getting long ;-p

but, that is a good point. I think I might be approaching it from the wrong angle, if the length was chosen in order to make sure that we aren't wading through 10+ hours of filler or grinding I can't really say that would be a bad decision. I think as gamers we have a gut reaction to make snap judgement calls as soon as we start hearing game length vs cost(at least I do). Most recently that came up concerning the new Metal Gear game. Even if it means grabbing this over spring break from red box, options exist to play the game without shelling out a full $60. So I won't continue my "sky is falling" overreaction just yet :-p

#21 Edited by Darji (5294 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

@darji: quote tree getting long ;-p

but, that is a good point. I think I might be approaching it from the wrong angle, if the length was chosen in order to make sure that we aren't wading through 10+ hours of filler or grinding I can't really say that would be a bad decision. I think as gamers we have a gut reaction to make snap judgement calls as soon as we start hearing game length vs cost(at least I do). Most recently that came up concerning the new Metal Gear game. Even if it means grabbing this over spring break from red box, options exist to play the game without shelling out a full $60. So I won't continue my "sky is falling" overreaction just yet :-p

Yeah people make too much fuss about the length of a game. back than games were 30-40 minutes and did cost the same but no one ever complained. Now with games getting more and more complex but also way more streamlined through which makes them shorter on purpose. Most importantly for me is. Will I be having a great time or not,

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#22 Posted by ShaggE (6472 posts) -

15 hours sounds perfect to me. Especially since I can imagine there being a fair bit of replayability anyway.

#23 Posted by spraynardtatum (3018 posts) -

I am so excited for this game. Anyone know if it's going to be available at midnight on steam?

#24 Posted by Wolfgame (760 posts) -

@spraynardtatum: steam is good about updating product page with countdown timer, but it looks like they are gonna be waiting till early afternoon tomorrow to unlock the game on steam, not sure why that is the case.

#25 Edited by AlexW00d (6281 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

@spraynardtatum: steam is good about updating product page with countdown timer, but it looks like they are gonna be waiting till early afternoon tomorrow to unlock the game on steam, not sure why that is the case.

A lot of 'worldwide' releases (IE Tuesday everywhere) are done in America time. So it's 10am for Valve, which is when the store is updated. It's dumb, but whatever.

E: Oh wait nm it's not a worldwide release so you must be East Coast America instead? Same thing applies, 10am Valve time.

#26 Posted by spraynardtatum (3018 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

@spraynardtatum: steam is good about updating product page with countdown timer, but it looks like they are gonna be waiting till early afternoon tomorrow to unlock the game on steam, not sure why that is the case.

Okay thanks!

#27 Posted by kurtkless (89 posts) -

Have we seen anything about the PC version? Will it use that terrible Ubisoft DRM? That's probably going to push me toward buying or not, I don't have a 360/ps3 hooked up anymore.

#28 Posted by Sackmanjones (4711 posts) -

@kurtkless: you've been able to disable that since Assasins Creed 3 I believe.

#29 Edited by Darji (5294 posts) -

Have we seen anything about the PC version? Will it use that terrible Ubisoft DRM? That's probably going to push me toward buying or not, I don't have a 360/ps3 hooked up anymore.

no it uses steamworks

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#30 Posted by Steadying (1273 posts) -

I'm more excited to see the reviews for this than I am for the actual game itself.

#31 Posted by Krullban (1038 posts) -

I think reviews will largely be mixed simply because South Park humor seems as though you either love it, or you think it's extremely stupid.

#32 Posted by Sackmanjones (4711 posts) -

@krullban: chances are the person who is reviewing the game has some sort of fondness for southpark. Giving a game a bad score because you don't like the source material is pretty unfair. It's like assigning someone who despises Batman to review the arkham games.

#33 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

@krullban: chances are the person who is reviewing the game has some sort of fondness for southpark. Giving a game a bad score because you don't like the source material is pretty unfair. It's like assigning someone who despises Batman to review the arkham games.

But thats how stupid these reviewers are. Look at some reviews who people who hate racing games review racing games. Look how people who do not like RPgs review rpgs. There is no standard at all for this thing and its a damn shame.

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#34 Edited by Krullban (1038 posts) -

@krullban: chances are the person who is reviewing the game has some sort of fondness for southpark. Giving a game a bad score because you don't like the source material is pretty unfair. It's like assigning someone who despises Batman to review the arkham games.

I dunno. I've seen my fair share of reviews from people who admittedly don't even like(Or even hate in some cases) the genre of the game they're reviewing.

#35 Edited by Sackmanjones (4711 posts) -

@darji: what are your examples of this? Unless there is some circumstance that the person has to review it, people most likely people are asked what they want to review. I write for a website and that's exactly how they do it.

#36 Posted by ShaggE (6472 posts) -

@sackmanjones: A site I wrote for a few years ago had a "pool" system in which it was first come, first serve for reviewers. I got stuck with genres I hated twice. It wasn't strictly a game site so much as a general media site, though. (not that that makes the system any less questionable)

#37 Edited by EthanielRain (852 posts) -
@wolfgame said:

Any predictions on scores? I think a lot of it will come down to the games length and ability to maintain humor throughout

I think it's gonna score really well in general, 9's and 10's.

#38 Posted by Hailinel (24969 posts) -

@wolfgame said:

Any predictions on scores? I think a lot of it will come down to the games length and ability to maintain humor throughout

That, and I think also the individual reviewer's feeling toward an RPG's worth of South Park humor. A little can go an incredibly long way.

#39 Edited by JJOR64 (19003 posts) -

12:01 AM PST via Alex's Twitter.

#40 Posted by MikeFerrari7 (209 posts) -

I say it will see low scores of 6.5, and high scores of 8.0, with an average of around 7. Being a lifelong South Park fan, I "know" that I'm going to love it more than the average person, unless it is a truly terrible game, which is always possible.

#41 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

@darji: what are your examples of this? Unless there is some circumstance that the person has to review it, people most likely people are asked what they want to review. I write for a website and that's exactly how they do it.

Latest one was Gran Turismo 6 one: A person who admits that she hates racing games thinks that they are boring and even said she does not even know why she is reviewing it reviewed the game and gave it a 6 and called it boring car porn XD

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#42 Posted by BigJeffrey (5024 posts) -

Quick Look too, this game is either going to be a train wreck or a south park fan's wet dream.

#43 Posted by Darji (5294 posts) -

@bigjeffrey: so for stupid Europeans (Germans) In how many hours will it be there?

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#44 Edited by Steadying (1273 posts) -

@darji: Around 5 hours. It should tell you when the quick look's coming on the front page.

#45 Posted by Stonyman65 (2725 posts) -

Looks like GB is doing the quick look at 12AM PST, or 3AM EST on release day. I'm sure the review will follow shortly (a quick look is kind of a review these days anyway). I know for a fact that some YouTube guys are doing Lets Play video of it (I'm watching the pewdiepie one as I type this) so there is content getting out there. Not sure if that violates any embargo, but it's out there if you want to see it.

I haven't played it yet, but from the trailers I've seen it looks like it might be pretty good. I love South Park so if this game is actually good It will be awesome. Like @bigjeffrey said, it's either going to be a train wreck or a South Park fan's wet dream.

#46 Edited by CornBREDX (5379 posts) -

I have a feeling, and have for awhile, that this game is pretty good.

#47 Posted by e30bmw (356 posts) -

My guess is that this will be one of those games that nails exactly what it is trying to do and if that's what you want great. But if not, it won't be anything earthshattering. Luckily, I enjoy South Park and a little RPG from time to time.

#48 Edited by DeviTiffany (439 posts) -

@darji said:

@wolfgame said:

Not gonna link to any of the channels, but walkthrough/LP vids are already popping up on youtube for the game, I haven't watched any outside of seeing that it was clearly new footage, so that is one option if you are desperate to see how the game is handling its humor later in game. They will probably be pulled down or they may just let it slide since it is so close to release, either way its an option to see more of the game at the time of this post.

There are twitch channels since a few days and they do not get pulled down at all. Someone actually finished the game 3 times already on twitch. Games length seems to be 15 hours with doing some sidequests so thats perfectly fine for me.

As for the score I am not really worried from what I saw it is great. However I really can not wait for some social commentary how you can not chose a woman as character or how this scene is racist, sexist etc. I really hope someone will something stupid like that with this game XD

Wait, can you not play as a female in the game?

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#50 Posted by Gonmog (586 posts) -

@devitiffany: does not look like there is a sex option. But long hair and looked like there's a lot of clothing choices. So umm...yes? Lol.

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