Hi guys I'm just wondering who else has lost 40K due to unvoluntarily leaving a match. Naughty Dog's current update has included a 40k penalty and a rank reduction system to stop people from leaving matches. The problem being this includes players who unvoluntarily quit through the likes of a connection error, game freezing and a whole host of other ways that kick them from the match.
This really annoys me because it has happened a few times now and its got to the point where I don't want to play the multiplayer anymore. Why would you want to spend time collecting money and leveling up only for it to be taken away from you because of a connection error.
What adds to my frustration is that no one at Naughty Dog has answered any of the complaints which take up alot of space on the PSN Blog and ND's own Blog.
Don't get me wrong I love the game the single player was incredible and the multiplayer before the update was fun and addictive but ND needs to know they are sabotaging this experience.
So the point of this Blog is for you Giantbombers to leave a message if this 40K penalty has happened, how it happened and what you would change to rectify this issue. Hopefully someone at Naughty Dog will see this blog and change the 40K penalty system to a better alternative, that doesn't punish innocent players who unvoluntarily quit.
Thanks
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
Game » consists of 14 releases. Released Oct 13, 2009
Nathan Drake returns to find the lost secret of Marco Polo, in this sequel to the 2007 sleeper hit Uncharted: Drake's Fortune.
Uncharted 2 40K Penalty Issue
Thank fuck, I thought I was the only one. It happened to me when I turned my PS3 off right after a game (the game was still on the scoreboard) and the next morning, I got the message saying I lost $40,000. It's an ok idea, but in cases of power outages and such, it's a pain in the ass I would imagine.
i lost 40 k twice
1. because i quit a match because the enemy team were lag switching.
2.My in game xmb froze so i had to restart my ps3 and what do i get. A message saying that i didn't finish the match and for that i lose a level and lose another 40 k. I was lvl 30 and the quit penalty drop my level to 29.
You have to punish people who disconnect, no matter how much that sucks for people who legitimately disconnect. Otherwise, you just have people pulling their Ethernet cable instead of quitting. It's not like this is the first game for this to happen, so I'm not sure I understand the outrage.
" You have to punish people who disconnect, no matter how much that sucks for people who legitimately disconnect. Otherwise, you just have people pulling their Ethernet cable instead of quitting. It's not like this is the first game for this to happen, so I'm not sure I understand the outrage. "This is what I was about to post. Well said.
What if the power goes out while playing? What if your internet screws up?" You have to punish people who disconnect, no matter how much that sucks for people who legitimately disconnect. Otherwise, you just have people pulling their Ethernet cable instead of quitting. It's not like this is the first game for this to happen, so I'm not sure I understand the outrage. "
That's why this is not the best idea.
i agree with Metal_Gear_Sunny
They said that you should not get penalized if you get kicked for some reason or another because they have ways of distinguishing when it happens, which is why it is weird....
The game can't distinquish between someone quiting and someone loosing connection. I went back to uncharted 2 last night played for an hour and on the 4th game there was a connection error and I lost all the progress I had made. Saying to yourself well at least the people who quit get this penalty to doesant seem to justify it. Instead I just thought whats the point in playing this game I might as well sell it. The reason for the outrage is because the game is so good, you can see how much effort has gone in to making it and putting this penalty in takes away from that. Its not people disconnecting which should be ND primary concern its people not playing the multiplayer altogether because of a flawed development decision." You have to punish people who disconnect, no matter how much that sucks for people who legitimately disconnect. Otherwise, you just have people pulling their Ethernet cable instead of quitting. It's not like this is the first game for this to happen, so I'm not sure I understand the outrage. "
" Thanks fuck, I thought I was the only one. It happened to me when I turned my PS3 off right after a game (the game was still on the scoreboard) and the next morning, I got the message saying I lost $40,000. It's an ok idea, but in cases of power outages and such, it's a pain in the ass I would imagine. "That's what I thought you said, it totally changes the sentence.
Anyone who has lost 40k and is annoyed about it follow this link
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/hair_of_the_dog_week_of_nov_15_2009/#comments
and reply to Arne.
Naughty Dog has no intention of changing the 40k penalty at this time. The only way anything changes is if alot of people stand behind it. Check out the ND Blog and leave a comment.
Thanks
it happened to me 3 times in one day. 3 levels down. I am so pissed. First the game froze. When i booted up i got the message. And then 2 connection errors caused 2 more level downs... Sucks big time as i really love the game. T
" Seems a bit stupid. We can't expect to be glued to the console if some other shit comes up irl. "This.
Better to quit out then standing idle and give the other team free kills if something comes up.
But it has prevented a couple rage quits.
40 000 is way to much! 4000 would be better.
Host migration - wave of the future.
Until something like that is implemented as a standard in multiplayer games I'm all for giving players dropping a hard kick in the XP nuts, people bailing when they're losing is one of my pet peeves, I'd trade a few losses due to connection error for that.
I just played again.. had a load of connection errors and went down four god dam levels. 160000 deduction .....aaarrrhhh ... this is to much.... They have to change the penalty or make sure they can detect if you didn´t do it on purpose. Again i don´t have the same problem with mw2 or any other multiplayer game. sucks
Yes, if you disconnect unwillingly it will suck, so I can imagine they could think up an algoritm that seperates cable pullers from connection losers (or jackasses from OHMYGODMYKITCHENISONFIRE!!!!) . That being said, if something IRL comes up I usually dont care about points or such 40k is much, but it's not the end of my world and I respect the goals Naughty Dog has.
It is a hard balancing act for online games to balance. Punishing abusers without affecting the legit too severely... I mean, really, this is for YOU the legit player. The system isn't fool-proof, but for the most part it is there to make a better experience and gaming environment for all the legit players. Sometimes the system will backfire, but I think that is a reasonable price to pay for a better experience. I mean, how often does your net go down or your power go out anyway? Very seldom I would hope.
It's a harsh penalty if you legitimately have a connection error or some form of power outage. And that sucks and does seem harsh. But for those prats that actually leave a match on purpose then the penalty is severe enough to hopefully dissuade them from continuing down that path of moronic behaviour and ruining online for people.
I'm not sure how many games follow something like this with their online but I'd say more need too. Taking a harsher stance toward this stuff might be a nice way of bringing about a more positive aspect of online play for most people. A lot of topics on video game message boards revolve around the negative experiences with online play, specifically negative experience with glitchers or whatever you call people who quit to avoid losing or such like.
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