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    Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II - Retribution

    Game » consists of 3 releases. Released Mar 01, 2011

    Ten years after the events of Chaos Rising, sub-sector Aurelia is still engulfed in all out war. In this third installment of Dawn of War II, you decide the victor!

    Dawn Of War II: Retribution Trading GFWL Support For Steamworks

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    mesklinite

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    #51  Edited By mesklinite

    This is a huge blow for Microsoft. If one person starts doing this others might follow. Interesting, very intersting.
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    #52  Edited By ChernobylCow

    Hmm. Probably won't get this since it won't have XBL achievements.  That's the only reason I grabbed the other two on the cheap.  $12 & $8

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    #53  Edited By DeltaDreamer
    @Lukeweizer: I bet you more than anything, that Steam will put in steam work achievements
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    #54  Edited By Mcfart

    nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i don't want Steam achievments.
     
    Also, why? GFWL>Steamworks. Besides MW2, who plays multiplayer steamworks games?

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    #55  Edited By Vorbis
    @gilsham: Hope so, grown attached to my Chaos Sorceror.
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    #56  Edited By ArjanN
    @ChernobylCow said:
    "Hmm. Probably won't get this since it won't have XBL achievements.  That's the only reason I grabbed the other two on the cheap.  $12 & $8 "

    That's just stupid. You should get the games because they are awesome. IMO Achievements add about a maximum of 0.1% value to a game unless you have OCD.
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    #57  Edited By Gregomasta
    @Mcfart said:
    " nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo i don't want Steam achievments.  Also, why? GFWL>Steamworks. Besides MW2, who plays multiplayer steamworks games? "
    what, what the fu..?
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    #58  Edited By ch13696

    It's about time they did this. Why the hell would you require Steam activation for both games, but have GFWL support? It's either one or the other. Not both.

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    #59  Edited By mazik765
    @Tactical_Kill said:
    " @Lukeweizer said:
    "Interesting. No more achievements? "
    Steam Achievements. "
    I want real achievements :(
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    #60  Edited By Darkraven

    GFWL really is dying out >< well microsoft... cant win em all!

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    #61  Edited By Jimbo7676

    I dislike GFWL but to do be fair I care nothing for achievements. I just hope Fallout: New Vegas won't have it.

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    #62  Edited By Krak0

    Better steam support is great, but no xbox achievements make me sad :(

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    #63  Edited By radiocip

    great news

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    #64  Edited By ChernobylCow
    @ArjanN: Well according to your profile you don't play console games.  And for me, the idea of having achievements that are fairly legitimate that span across both console and PC platforms is a pretty strong selling point.  I like looking back at my gaming achievements.
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    #65  Edited By keyhunter

    Steam is still consistently annoying enough that I don't play games in any way linked to steam anymore.

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    #66  Edited By microshock

    ROFL if you're whining about achievements on here, you're not a true PC gamer or a gamer in any sense of the word. 
     
    Grow up. 
    But GFWL achievements are better than Steam ones. 

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    #67  Edited By Uberjannie

    Lets not forget that its easier for them to release DLC's on Steam. They can milk it like there is no tomorrow.

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    #68  Edited By woojames

    Would still prefer GFWL gamerscores than Steam achievements :(

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    #69  Edited By deathfromace

    finally they are getting steamworks

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    #70  Edited By Shabs
    @Jimbo7676 said:
    " I dislike GFWL but to do be fair I care nothing for achievements. I just hope Fallout: New Vegas won't have it. "
    I think New Vegas is going for Steam achievements.
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    #71  Edited By TommyH

    I just hope that this will result in faster matchmaking system... The old one was painfully slow. Overall this sounds like a great decision.

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    #72  Edited By TomA

    fuck GFWL Microsoft pissed on the PC and fucked it in the ass. Douchebags.

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    #73  Edited By WEGGLES
    @keyhunter:  
     
    What's wrong with steam?
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    #74  Edited By Nentisys

    I hate GFWL.

    I am indifferent about steam.

    I love 40k. I love Relic. I love Dawn of War. 

    Can't wait.

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    #75  Edited By pwnasaurus

    thank god

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    #76  Edited By mrcellophane

    But wait, I'm confused. I can already buy the 2 first on Steam... Is that *with* GFWL support then?

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    #77  Edited By phrosnite

    This is the best decision ever! Relic are just awesome. We wanted vehicles wrecks, they delivered. We wanted them to get rid of that abomination GfWL, they did. I have the feeling that Retribution will be the best 40k game ever made!
    Relic are one of the few studios that listen to their community!
    For the blood handed GOD!
     
     

    @MrCellophane

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    " But wait, I'm confused. I can already buy the 2 first on Steam... Is that *with* GFWL support then? "

      Yes, but to play the game you have to log into GfWL also and they are providing the match-makingg system which sucked btw. Not to mention that patches had to go through certification every time and we had to wait like 2 more weeks  to get the patch. With Steamworks we won't have that problem.
     
    Not to mention that Retribution will be a completely stand alone expansion which means that you can play with all races in multiplayer, you don't have to have the previous games. This is great for new gamers who haven't played it yet.
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    #78  Edited By Mattyboysmith

    I will miss the achievements since I use to like playing the previous 2 and getting some gamerscore.  If achievements suck as some here believe, then why do sites like this one use them as well?

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    #79  Edited By Tennmuerti

    Good.

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    #80  Edited By Lazyaza

    Sweeeeet, much prefer my pc games have just steam than freaking gfwl or both. This is good news.

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    #81  Edited By shootfast

    Yay now I can play the 360 and DOW 2 at the same time, instead of logging me out every time my brother turns on the 360

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    #82  Edited By deactivated-60ae53b407571

    The Emperor Protects.
     
    He also fucking invented Steam. Awesome.

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    #83  Edited By mistbite

    BOO!!
    Please stop using Steamworks. Don't want to be locked in.
    Steam = 1984

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    #84  Edited By jonathankort

    I see myself logging in to GFW less and less these days... This will probably continue to be the trend.  Steam is just becoming the default PC gaming hub.
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    #85  Edited By SunKing
    @fedorajay said:
    " I'm not a PC gamer so I didn't know GFWL had such a bad rap. My Question is: Which is closer to the grave, GFWL or GameRoom? "
    GameRoom. Even if GFWL goes, Microsoft will release something else to replace it. They have to have some sort of presence on the gaming PC.
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    #86  Edited By metal_mills
    @Sil3n7 said:
    " @rargy said:
    " While i like Steam, i've never had a problem with GFWL. "
    Agreed. "
    GFWL is ok at best for DoW2(the custom game list was always shit though) but it's terrible with other games. It makes Red Faction just useless online for me. No server browser, and the matchmaking just dumped me in dead or overseas servers.
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    #87  Edited By MuttersomeTaxicab

    Man, this makes me happy. I imagine it's too much to ask that they strip GFWL out of the other 2 games while they're at it, eh?
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    #88  Edited By dvorak
    @mistbite said:
    " BOO!! Please stop using Steamworks. Don't want to be locked in. Steam = 1984 "
    Oh come on, seriously?
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    #89  Edited By CreativeColossi
    @mistbite said:
    " BOO!! Please stop using Steamworks. Don't want to be locked in. Steam = 1984 "
    Who let Randy Pitchford in here?
     
    Also you're an idiot.
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    #90  Edited By Shabs
    @mistbite said:
    " BOO!! Please stop using Steamworks. Don't want to be locked in. Steam = 1984 "
    How is this different from GFW Live?  I thought they associate the game to your Gamertag, which is exactly the same thing.
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    #91  Edited By lockwoodx

    Games for windows live can't die or else they would have to refund a TON of $DLC to angry customers.

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    #92  Edited By TechParadox

    Without a doubt one of the best bits of news I've heard for this series.  After dealing with the amazingly smelly pile of crap that is GFWL, working only with Steam will be a breath of fresh air.  Only downside to this is that with no GFWL you get no MS achievement points, but I think I can live with that.

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    #93  Edited By Nux

    I would be nice if it came with games for windows live like the others did.

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    #94  Edited By FokisMoney

    I will miss gfwl if only because i love  getting more achievements and tend to care more about them for live than my steam achievements,and gfwl has yet to give me any problems (when i first tried it i kept getting signed out of it at first, only to figure out that was because i kept trying to sign on to xboxlive to listen to last.fm while i played....yeah im stupid i know haha). But other than that im super pumped, i didnt like dow2 when i played the demo, but after watching the quicklook picked it up on a steam sale and i LOVE it, stupendous game i can't wait for more DOW2 goodness! 
     
    sidenote- YAY me my first official post on giantbomb!

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    #95  Edited By WinkLynx

    Nice!  Playing the game from Steam and having a different friends list for GFWL was kind of annoying.

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    #96  Edited By LordAndrew
    @mistbite said:
    " BOO!!
    Please stop using Steamworks.
    Don't want to be locked in. Steam = 1984 "
    And Games for Windows LIVE doesn't? If you refuse to be "locked in", you should stay away from both of these services.
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    #97  Edited By Nekroskop

    Finally. Screw GFWL. Bloatware crap.

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    #98  Edited By mistbite
    @dvorak: What!? 
    Steam isn't that good of a service and I much more prefer GFWL. I get Live Achievements and the game isn't locked only to Steam. I know there is a lot of Steam-fanboys out there, but seriously. There must be better alternatives. 
    Don't give Steam monopoly when it comes to PC games and digital distribution. 
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    #99  Edited By sins_of_mosin

    Since DoW2 isn't a rts, it would've been a great game to have on the consoles.
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    #100  Edited By Thunz

    While I've never had a problem with GFWL, I do think Steam is a better service.

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