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Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 PSN Requires An Internet Connection

Good thing you used one to download it, right?

Consider the following a PSA of sorts: The PSN version of Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 is using a form of DRM that requires an Internet connection when it boots. So, if your PS3 can’t talk to the cloud upon start-up, you won’t be able to play the game, despite the total absence of online functionality aside from basic leaderboards stuff (via TheSixthAxis).

Sound familiar? It should, for the Capcom devout out there. Final Fight: Double Impact had the exact same DRM, though the bugbear was that the publisher didn’t make it clear upfront that the game was protected. This time around, Capcom makes a note in the PSN Store description stating that you have to “log-in to the PSN each time to play the game.”  

 

  
 
The Xbox Live Arcade version of Rearmed doesn’t have this kind of DRM, which probably says something about how many people are still sharing their PSN games through bogus profiles. I'll update if Capcom goes on record with a response as to why the game is protected as it is, or addresses some of the outcry from BC fans who aren't digging this form of rather... restrictive protection.  

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Checking the connection on start-up is fine by me and, yes I share PSN games with tons of people. 
 
My qualm is if it ends up meaning I always have to have an active connection to keep playing it. Sometimes there's a minor hiccup on my connection and if that kicks me out of the game mid-checkpoint save then that's pretty lame. 
 
Also, I'm not paying 15 bucks for Rearmed. Remember when GRIN asked fans how much they'd pay for a Bionic Commando Rearmed game?

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@bitcloud: Well first of all I'm referring to the fact that MANY people buy one game on a shared PSN, split the cost and then all download a copy to their consoles. To the developers and publishers this is the EXACT same thing as piracy. In a sense, it really is no different other than the fact that the system allows it to occur. 
 
And again, you keep talking about PSN accounts which I am not talking about at all. PSN may allow you to legally game share, but that doesn't mean the EULA for the software itself is agreeing with you. In fact I am 100% certain that game sharing violates the EULA of every game out there; therefore game sharing is copyright infringement. 
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@MAST said:
" @bitcloud said:
" @RsistncE
@bitcloud said:
" @LethalKi11ler said:
" @RsistncE said:
" Yup, piracy is clearly a problem you find only on the PC. "
this this this this "
Too bad this isn't piracy. "
Too bad it is. Piracy is defined as the any form of unauthorized copying of computer software. Basically it's copyright infringement, which this clearly is.
I'm not copying, or using my account in an unauthorized way. I'm allowed to access my account on 5 systems as limited by PSN. "
Exactly, it's not piracy if you are allowed to do it through the rules, and terms laid out by PSN. Developers just don't like that rule.  Regardless, piracy is still number 1 on the PC. It's way easier to pirate stuff on this PC. Almost as easy as just simply installing a game. It requires jumping through way more hoops on the 360, and even MORE hoops on the PS3 (at least for now). That's why development of games has all but moved over to consoles (unless you're Blizzard), with PC's just sometimes getting ports. "
I'm not talking about PSN, I'm talking about the EULA you agree to when you buy the software. A publisher will tell you that by sharing software with users who haven't purchased the license to play it that you are breaking copyright law and therefore are pirating software. How this is morally any different than pirating software is beyond me and I find it absolutely ridiculous that you guys are justifying it.
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Pretty lame. When will developers learn?

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I'd rather Sony cuts down the "share" rule to just two PS3s instead of five so that this kind of thing doesn't ever have to happen. I'll admit that I let my brother download stuff from my account, but only because he's not a hardcore gamer, so only like 10% of what I buy is something he might enjoy. Sharing it is better than him not ever doing anything on his PS3 besides play movies / watch Netflix.

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@bitcloud said:
" @RsistncE
@bitcloud said:
" @LethalKi11ler said:
" @RsistncE said:
" Yup, piracy is clearly a problem you find only on the PC. "
this this this this "
Too bad this isn't piracy. "
Too bad it is. Piracy is defined as the any form of unauthorized copying of computer software. Basically it's copyright infringement, which this clearly is.
I'm not copying, or using my account in an unauthorized way. I'm allowed to access my account on 5 systems as limited by PSN. "
Exactly, it's not piracy if you are allowed to do it through the rules, and terms laid out by PSN. Developers just don't like that rule.
 
Regardless, piracy is still number 1 on the PC. It's way easier to pirate stuff on this PC. Almost as easy as just simply installing a game. It requires jumping through way more hoops on the 360, and even MORE hoops on the PS3 (at least for now). That's why development of games has all but moved over to consoles (unless you're Blizzard), with PC's just sometimes getting ports.
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@bitcloud said:
" @LethalKi11ler said:
" @RsistncE said:
" Yup, piracy is clearly a problem you find only on the PC. "
this this this this "
Too bad this isn't piracy. "
Too bad it is. Piracy is defined as the any form of unauthorized copying of computer software. Basically it's copyright infringement, which this clearly is.
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If they got rid of all DRM except for a disc check and a CD key then I'm 90% certain sales for any such game would increase.
But the way things happen at the moment is that publishers whack a load of DRM on it, people pirate the game because it's easier than buying it and having a load of trouble, and then the publisher blames the pirates. If you're going to reduce piracy you have to make it easier to buy the game than it is to download, and that means getting rid of DRM.

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"Hey, this piracy thing is really cutting into our bottom line. What do we do about it?" 
"Penalize everyone."
"Smart thinkin.  Give that man a raise"
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@Lord_Yeti said:
" So people are gonna pirate the PC version now? Why not, you know, BUY the PC version? "
is there even going to be a pc version? GB is the only place that even mentions one.
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So people are gonna pirate the PC version now? Why not, you know, BUY the PC version?

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Anyone know if Rearmed #1 will be on sale price when this releases?  Never got around to trying it, but it looks like fun times.

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@Fallen189 said:
" @Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Fallen189 said:
" @Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Milkman said:
"Considering that you need an internet connection to buy the game, I'm going to chalk this up as a non-issue. "
Pretty much this =\ and for people who have problems with it being connected to the internet all the time, just connect, then start the game and then disconnect and bam there it is.  "
Unless you can't get the internet all the time.  In the student hall where I live, it's hard to impossible to get a console online. I could take it to a friends house to buy it, but then I couldn't actually play it.  For everyone to assume that everyone ALWAYS has the internet, you're being very naive and idiotic. It's a shame, because I WAS going to buy this, but I guess now I'm going to pirate it on PC. Apples and oranges "
Im not saying always on the internet, I never said that, maybe you should have read my post before making snap accusations.  "
I didn't. I was discussing my own personal anecdote, sorry if that wasn't apparent. And to sarcastically call MB a "Genius" was unecessary aswell. Maybe they downloaded it somewhere else. When I bought Pacman CEDX, I bought it at my girlfriends house, then carried on playing it at home. I planned to do this for BCR2, but I guess I can't. "

 
Well it wasn't that apparent. I agree, just been having a bad day, a bit snappy. I keep hearing that they are planning on changing it down the line, I guess if all else fails, Stacking comes out in a couple days.
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@Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Fallen189 said:
" @Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Milkman said:
"Considering that you need an internet connection to buy the game, I'm going to chalk this up as a non-issue. "
Pretty much this =\ and for people who have problems with it being connected to the internet all the time, just connect, then start the game and then disconnect and bam there it is.  "
Unless you can't get the internet all the time.  In the student hall where I live, it's hard to impossible to get a console online. I could take it to a friends house to buy it, but then I couldn't actually play it.  For everyone to assume that everyone ALWAYS has the internet, you're being very naive and idiotic. It's a shame, because I WAS going to buy this, but I guess now I'm going to pirate it on PC. Apples and oranges "
Im not saying always on the internet, I never said that, maybe you should have read my post before making snap accusations.  "
I didn't. I was discussing my own personal anecdote, sorry if that wasn't apparent. 
And to sarcastically call MB a "Genius" was unecessary aswell. Maybe they downloaded it somewhere else. When I bought Pacman CEDX, I bought it at my girlfriends house, then carried on playing it at home. I planned to do this for BCR2, but I guess I can't.
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@Fallen189 said:
" @Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Milkman said:
"Considering that you need an internet connection to buy the game, I'm going to chalk this up as a non-issue. "
Pretty much this =\ and for people who have problems with it being connected to the internet all the time, just connect, then start the game and then disconnect and bam there it is.  "
Unless you can't get the internet all the time.  In the student hall where I live, it's hard to impossible to get a console online. I could take it to a friends house to buy it, but then I couldn't actually play it.  For everyone to assume that everyone ALWAYS has the internet, you're being very naive and idiotic. It's a shame, because I WAS going to buy this, but I guess now I'm going to pirate it on PC. Apples and oranges "

Im not saying always on the internet, I never said that, maybe you should have read my post before making snap accusations. 
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@MysteriousBob said:
" @Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Milkman said:
"Considering that you need an internet connection to buy the game, I'm going to chalk this up as a non-issue. "
Pretty much this =\ and for people who have problems with it being connected to the internet all the time, just connect, then start the game and then disconnect and bam there it is.  "
If you can't connect even for a moment then you probably can't connect at all, genius. I can only go online on my 360 when I'm home from university. So yes- this is an issue. I can't connect to XBL but I still want to be able to play the games I've previously downloaded.  "

 
Then how would they be able to download it in the first place. 
Genius. 
 
Its not the perfect system, I never said it was, but its the only option if you want to play it on PS3. 
So if you can't do that then buy another game and leave it at that.
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Here in the U.S. high-speed internet isn't nearly as widespread as in other industrialized countries, such as those of Western Europe (due to our aversion to high-density living). My home on the rural Northern California coast still has dial-up, so this absolutely sucks for me.

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@DivineCC said:
" @Faint said:
" Someone remind me why this game is worth anything? I don't mean to degrade a companies work, but this game looks f'ing terrible. It looked awful on the live show on Friday and now this is just the cherry on the cake. Someone please explain to me the appeal of this title? "
If thats how you feel about the game, then nobody is going to be able to explain the appeal to you.  I'll try though. Some people think side scrolling shooters that are reminiscent of older games are fun. Its as simple as that. I don't know how you can't possibly see that. "
Fair enough, but I'd probably rather play an old side scrolling shooter than what I have seen of Commando 2, though I suppose everything gets redone every so many years. It just looks, not very good. Watching Jeff die in the same spot about 20 times and Brad doing the 'GG' sound pretty much confirmed for me that it wasn't that good, after the developers themselves kept dying and stuffing up and struggling at a game that they themselves conceived. Maybe I've just got the wrong spin in my head of what the game is meant to be. I don't know.
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Whelp I'm slightly happier I waited an extra day for the xbox release before buying it. I only did that because I played the other one on the xbox and I figured they'd look nice together on my profile.  
 
I can understand why capcom did do it though. Just kinda sad it's come to this. Though that's what I said about Assassin's Creed 2, so yeah whatever.
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I'm glad I purchased this on my 360 because: 
 
I never have my PS3 hooked up to the internet, it has no wifi (20gb model) and thus requires a lot of rewiring to get the ethernet cable to reach. Thank god I waited one single day and got it on the superior Xbox 360.

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so no online CO-OP but you HAVE to be online to play???? BULLSHIT

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Even if this doesn't affect me 99% of the time, the fact that it is there and limiting a legit buyer would stop me getting it.

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Punish your customers because of other actions?  Bullshit.  Good thing I don't buy or play mediocre games anyway.

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Somehow I don't see this translating into more sales.

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@Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Milkman said:
"Considering that you need an internet connection to buy the game, I'm going to chalk this up as a non-issue. "
Pretty much this =\ and for people who have problems with it being connected to the internet all the time, just connect, then start the game and then disconnect and bam there it is.  "
Unless you can't get the internet all the time. 
 
In the student hall where I live, it's hard to impossible to get a console online. I could take it to a friends house to buy it, but then I couldn't actually play it. 
 
For everyone to assume that everyone ALWAYS has the internet, you're being very naive and idiotic. It's a shame, because I WAS going to buy this, but I guess now I'm going to pirate it on PC. Apples and oranges
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 That feels iffy to me. Then again, given the poor reviews and the fact that I didn't think much of the first Rearmed anyway my care-o-meter is kind of running on empty for this one anyway, so there's that. 
 
Still, intrusive DRM on consoles is just bad customer relations IMO, if they want to burn their redownloads by sharing the games beyond the EULA I get how it's not ideal for the publisher, but it's still something they may want to address with Sony and how they structure their download policy, not with the end user.

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@ch13696: Wow man what are you using dial up?All you need is basic DSL.That ain't expensive at all.
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@Faint said:
" Someone remind me why this game is worth anything? I don't mean to degrade a companies work, but this game looks f'ing terrible. It looked awful on the live show on Friday and now this is just the cherry on the cake. Someone please explain to me the appeal of this title? "
If thats how you feel about the game, then nobody is going to be able to explain the appeal to you.  I'll try though. Some people think side scrolling shooters that are reminiscent of older games are fun. Its as simple as that. I don't know how you can't possibly see that.

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Thanks PSN game-sharers!

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@Bloodgraiv3 said:
" @Milkman said:
"Considering that you need an internet connection to buy the game, I'm going to chalk this up as a non-issue. "
Pretty much this =\ and for people who have problems with it being connected to the internet all the time, just connect, then start the game and then disconnect and bam there it is.  "
If you can't connect even for a moment then you probably can't connect at all, genius.
 
I can only go online on my 360 when I'm home from university. So yes- this is an issue. I can't connect to XBL but I still want to be able to play the games I've previously downloaded. 
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Cool.
 
Fuck anyone who wants this game for free, it's a great game.

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Do not support games with DRM of this magnitude.

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I don't have a PS3. This is because of people sharing PSN profiles, not because of the recent geohotz/failoverflow crap?

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@Milkman said:
"Considering that you need an internet connection to buy the game, I'm going to chalk this up as a non-issue. "

Pretty much this =\ 
and for people who have problems with it being connected to the internet all the time, just connect, then start the game and then disconnect and bam there it is. 
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AFAIK, you can only install a PSN game on up to 3 consoles now anyway, I have 2 PS3s, so it's nice to be able to install on both.  They are both online tho, so this is kind of a non-issue for me personally.

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@Carnin said:
" Only people who actually complain are actually the people that Capcom is DRM is targeting which is the cheapskate pirater. There are also people who complain to just about everything and they dont even own the console or not going to buy the game. "
Or maybe it's the people that take their PS3's with them wherever they go. Or maybe it's the people that have a shitty internet connection.
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I really couldn't care less. I bought it because I thought it looked great. 
..and it is. 
 
I might go back for a few trophies after I finish the game, but that's about it. Just like the first Rearmed. So the whole "always on" thing means very little to me. 

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Someone remind me why this game is worth anything? I don't mean to degrade a companies work, but this game looks f'ing terrible. It looked awful on the live show on Friday and now this is just the cherry on the cake. Someone please explain to me the appeal of this title?

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Didn't really plan to buy it anyway.  One game was enough, and I'd rather they moved on to another franchise like Trojan or Black Tiger.

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I was also interested in buying this game, but I refuse to buy any games that have this kind of strict DRM.  
 
Yes, I buy the game online, so you would think I have a constant connection, most of the time I do. However, storms happen...internet connections can cut out, or hell sometimes I'm really short on money, and have gotten my internet  turned off for a couple weeks. I would like to have access to the games I legally  purchased regardless if I have an internet connection!   
 
Even if the problem isn't on my end, there have been times when PSN has just not worked. Not to mention, after seeing companies like Microsoft already having servers shut down for the original Xbox (which is bull shit, there were still plenty of people playing Halo 2 still), it does not make me feel very confident that they will keep their service active for a particular system forever. I still own my NES and some of the games from over 20 years ago, and occasionally I actually still play them. Can Sony and Capcom assure me that I will still have access to the PSN server 20 years from now, so I can play my copy of Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 then? Doubt it...

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 - constant internet connection required
- still no online play regardless
- versus mode completely eliminated 
- load times everywhere, making challenge rooms extremely annoying to play
- 50% more expensive
 
Capcom. Superior.

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@udabenshen: Any shot you can elaborate on that? I don't know much about how these things work, so I'm curious what makes it easier on PSN. 
 
Also, this really bothers me for the sole reason that I can't, for the life of me, get a solid constant connection to PSN. I can normally play games online fine, but for some reason staying connected to just PSN (things like the store, or being connected while not playing an online game) is impossible for me. So I would probably never buy this game, out of fear I couldn't ever play it. 
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@BradNicholson: How does it sucks?
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damnation

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Only people who actually complain are actually the people that Capcom is DRM is targeting which is the cheapskate pirater. There are also people who complain to just about everything and they dont even own the console or not going to buy the game.

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@Underachiever007 said:
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Edited By MildMolasses
@nintendoeats said:
"I use the multi-ps3 thing to share stuff with my family overseas. If Capcom has a problem with that then I have a problem with Capcom.  Of course, I haven't updated my PS3 past 3.15, so I guess this doesn't affect me. Its just irksome that game publishers are so willing to compromise their customer experience. "

I'm pretty sure that all publishers have a problem with mutliple copies of a single licence being spread around