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LucasArts Unleashing Yoda In The Force Unleashed II

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Insert backwards-sounding Yoda-speak here.

Proving that everyone in the Star Wars universe really does know everyone else, LucasArts brings word from the Celebration V festival currently taking place in Florida that everyone's favorite sagely frog-thing Yoda will be making an appearance alongside Young Starkiller in The Force Unleashed II.
 
Here's the official pitch. 

Starkiller, having escaped the clutches of Darth Vader on the planet Kamino, senses something calling out to him from the planet Dagobah. Arriving there, he encounters a familiar face and one of the most powerful Jedi to ever live – Yoda. Outside of the iconic Cave of Evils, Yoda provides Starkiller with crucial insight about the inner turmoil tearing his mind apart and his quest to reunite with Juno Eclipse. 

 
And here's some screenshots! 
 

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And here's the video evidence! 
 
  
   
 
Whose ears are tingling over this news? I still need to finish the original Force Unleashed before this sequel comes along later in the year. Attempting to play through that game on hard just for the achievements was not a great idea.
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@WinterSnowblind said:
" @TheHT said:
" @WinterSnowblind said:
" Anything that isn't created by George Lucas is part of the EU, not official canon.  Period. "
Since when was that a thing? August 16, 2010? "
Since always.  Lucas has never considered the EU to be canon and if you really what to get geeky, it sits at a level below G-canon.  Some people like to think of it as better, because they happen to like particular stories and blast things like TCW or the prequels for introducing stupid elements or changing things the EU had previously established..  but the EU has even more ridiculousness.  Just take a look at Luuke or Mara Jade and you'll see exactly why if we do get an Episode 7, 8 and 9, large amounts of the EU will be completely overwritten. "
Ok, I understand the suggestion that some people think of it as better because they like particular stories better than the movies. I mean, that's the definition of liking something better. But where did Crazy G Lucas say all of EU (i.e. everything that isn't the 6 movies) isn't considered canon?
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@TheHT said:
" @WinterSnowblind said:
" Anything that isn't created by George Lucas is part of the EU, not official canon.  Period. "
Since when was that a thing? August 16, 2010? "
Since always.  Lucas has never considered the EU to be canon and if you really what to get geeky, it sits at a level below G-canon. 

Some people like to think of it as better, because they happen to like particular stories and blast things like TCW or the prequels for introducing stupid elements or changing things the EU had previously established..  but the EU has even more ridiculousness.  Just take a look at Luuke or Mara Jade and you'll see exactly why if we do get an Episode 7, 8 and 9, large amounts of the EU will be completely overwritten.
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@WinterSnowblind said:
" Anything that isn't created by George Lucas is part of the EU, not official canon.  Period. "
Since when was that a thing? August 16, 2010?
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Why is everyone arguing over whether it's cannon or not?  
Sad thing is, everything that hasn't been cannon lately is the best stuff.  
Lucas torpedoed his own product with those crappy prequels. 
Besides The Force Unleashed was a crap fest anyway. Should be renamed "Star Wars: Get Knocked on your ass a lot". 
Their whole purpose for this game was for the player to feel like a "Bad Ass" and it failed in every situation you were put into. Hell, the one selling point I remember back in the day was the whole bringing down of a Star Destroyer and when you finally get to it, it's so damn boring I wanted to put a bullet through my head.  
My point to all of this, because I just remember I had one after my rage haze, is that this game probably will not be any better than the first one, unless they put huge amounts of resources into making this version not suck as bad as the first one.

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@TadThuggish said:
your argument: I don't like it, therefore it's not canon.  It's not particularly what I enjoy, therefore its establishment as legitimate Star Wars material is unwarranted. France sucks, so France doesn't exist.  "I don't recognize it as a part of this world!!!!1"  Yep, you're done. "
I'm not trying to argue anything.  Anything that isn't created by George Lucas is part of the EU, not official canon.  Period.
The Force Unleashed isn't part of official SW canon, not because I choose to deem it beneath me, but because all Lucas done was to stamp his seal of approval over it..  As he's done with many other EU material.
 
All I was saying was that the first Force Unleashed was very well written and believably fit into the SW universe, and I'd have had no problems accepting it as an official part of the story.  Obviously I haven't played the second, and shouldn't really judge it too soon..  But from what we've seen it does not fit in anywhere near as neatly.  It's more of a "what if" scenario.
 
Like I said, your universe better applies to those who ARE fans of the EU, but seem to pick and choose what stories they like and highlight them as "canon" over things they dislike.  i.e. the Mandalorians.  Many dislike how they're represented in the Clone Wars animated show, and therefor refuse to acknowledge it at all.  All I'm doing is ignoring a sub-level of the canon that falls beneath the movies and TV show.  It's like being a fan of Transformers G1 but not G2 or the movies.
 
If you want to argue anymore geeky semantics, I'd suggest making a seperate topic about it, or going to the Star Wars forums.
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@WinterSnowblind said:

" @TadThuggish said:

" @WinterSnowblind said:

" @TadThuggish said:

" Nothing has been retconned.  It was never stated that no one met Yoda on Dagobah before Luke did in Empire Strikes Back.  Cash-in?  Maybe.  Retcon?  Absolutely not. "
It's not retconning because unlike the first game, this one can not be considered canon, at all.  There are just too many silly moments like this..    Nothing Yoda says to Luke or Obi-Wan makes a whole lot of sense, if Yoda knew there was another, ultra powerful Jedi out there, mere months before he meets up with Luke.  And why does Vader/The Empire seem to be employing hundreds of massive armoured battle robots, where were these in the movies?  Even on a gameplay level this is stupid..  Why didn't the developers realise that the best (or only good) parts of the first game was when you were killing stormtroopers or wookies by the room full with a flick of your wrist. As much as I enjoyed the story from the original, this has decended into typical EU dribble.  Which is likely why the lead producer quit. "
The Starkiller in this game is a clone.  
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Unleashed_II
 
Nothing has been retconned.  If you're going to go on a little "anti-anything-star-wars-trying-to-look-cool-on-the-internet" tirade, at least do some research and have factual reasons to back up your claims. "I do not like this," does not make something a retcon.  Nor does it not make something part of the Star Wars canon.  If you hate the country France, well too bad, France still exists.  If you dislike any narrative quality of Mass Effect 2, it does not mean Mass Effect 2 suddenly isn't correct.  The world does not warp itself to fit your whim. "
I know he's a clone, all I was saying that certain points of the story have become so silly and strenuous, it's very difficult to take it seriously.  And no, I'm not anti-Star Wars, I'm actually a very big fan.  Particularly of the Clone Wars..  Which a lot of hardcore Star Wars fans seem to dismiss for exactly the reasons you've said.
 
However, unlike the Clone Wars, the Force Unleashed isn't canon, it's part of the EU that exists on a different level, below the movies and CW.  Some people like to hold the EU in higher regard, but personally I think too much of it is just plain silly.  The writters have too much of a tendancy to throw Jedi backstories, darkside turns and dramatic redemptions onto every character that's invented. "
your argument:
I don't like it, therefore it's not canon. 
It's not particularly what I enjoy, therefore its establishment as legitimate Star Wars material is unwarranted.
France sucks, so France doesn't exist.  "I don't recognize it as a part of this world!!!!1"
 
Yep, you're done.
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@TadThuggish said:
" @WinterSnowblind said:

" @TadThuggish said:

" Nothing has been retconned.  It was never stated that no one met Yoda on Dagobah before Luke did in Empire Strikes Back.  Cash-in?  Maybe.  Retcon?  Absolutely not. "
It's not retconning because unlike the first game, this one can not be considered canon, at all.  There are just too many silly moments like this..    Nothing Yoda says to Luke or Obi-Wan makes a whole lot of sense, if Yoda knew there was another, ultra powerful Jedi out there, mere months before he meets up with Luke.  And why does Vader/The Empire seem to be employing hundreds of massive armoured battle robots, where were these in the movies?  Even on a gameplay level this is stupid..  Why didn't the developers realise that the best (or only good) parts of the first game was when you were killing stormtroopers or wookies by the room full with a flick of your wrist. As much as I enjoyed the story from the original, this has decended into typical EU dribble.  Which is likely why the lead producer quit. "
The Starkiller in this game is a clone.  
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Unleashed_II
 
Nothing has been retconned.  If you're going to go on a little "anti-anything-star-wars-trying-to-look-cool-on-the-internet" tirade, at least do some research and have factual reasons to back up your claims. "I do not like this," does not make something a retcon.  Nor does it not make something part of the Star Wars canon.  If you hate the country France, well too bad, France still exists.  If you dislike any narrative quality of Mass Effect 2, it does not mean Mass Effect 2 suddenly isn't correct.  The world does not warp itself to fit your whim. "
I know he's a clone, all I was saying that certain points of the story have become so silly and strenuous, it's very difficult to take it seriously.  And no, I'm not anti-Star Wars, I'm actually a very big fan.  Particularly of the Clone Wars..  Which a lot of hardcore Star Wars fans seem to dismiss for exactly the reasons you've said.
 
However, unlike the Clone Wars, the Force Unleashed isn't canon, it's part of the EU that exists on a different level, below the movies and CW.  Some people like to hold the EU in higher regard, but personally I think too much of it is just plain silly.  The writters have too much of a tendancy to throw Jedi backstories, darkside turns and dramatic redemptions onto every character that's invented.
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@WinterSnowblind said:

" @TadThuggish said:

" Nothing has been retconned.  It was never stated that no one met Yoda on Dagobah before Luke did in Empire Strikes Back.  Cash-in?  Maybe.  Retcon?  Absolutely not. "
It's not retconning because unlike the first game, this one can not be considered canon, at all.  There are just too many silly moments like this..    Nothing Yoda says to Luke or Obi-Wan makes a whole lot of sense, if Yoda knew there was another, ultra powerful Jedi out there, mere months before he meets up with Luke.  And why does Vader/The Empire seem to be employing hundreds of massive armoured battle robots, where were these in the movies?  Even on a gameplay level this is stupid..  Why didn't the developers realise that the best (or only good) parts of the first game was when you were killing stormtroopers or wookies by the room full with a flick of your wrist. As much as I enjoyed the story from the original, this has decended into typical EU dribble.  Which is likely why the lead producer quit. "
The Starkiller in this game is a clone.  
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Unleashed_II
 
Nothing has been retconned.  If you're going to go on a little "anti-anything-star-wars-trying-to-look-cool-on-the-internet" tirade, at least do some research and have factual reasons to back up your claims. "I do not like this," does not make something a retcon.  Nor does it not make something part of the Star Wars canon.  If you hate the country France, well too bad, France still exists.  If you dislike any narrative quality of Mass Effect 2, it does not mean Mass Effect 2 suddenly isn't correct.  The world does not warp itself to fit your whim.
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I'll be disappointed if there is not the Dark Side option to kill or at least severely wound Yoda.  Especially after that throw-proof bullshit from his appearance in Soul Calibur IV.

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@lolwot said:
" @Willy105 said:
" @President_Barackbar said:
" @Willy105:  Well, you're obviously a prequel respecter and because of that I have nothing left to say to you sir. "
Nah. The prequel movies were not very good.  But the story was, which resulted in the Clone Wars TV show, which is fantastic.  While the Original Trilogy were better movies, the story was not as rich as the ones from the prequels. "
What? How do the prequels have a "richer" story? "
Deeper and bigger universe, Shakespearean origins, tragic heroes, political commentary, real-life allusions, and such.
 
Lucas is not a good writer, but makes a great template.
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@TadThuggish said:
" Nothing has been retconned.  It was never stated that no one met Yoda on Dagobah before Luke did in Empire Strikes Back.  Cash-in?  Maybe.  Retcon?  Absolutely not. "
It's not retconning because unlike the first game, this one can not be considered canon, at all.  There are just too many silly moments like this..  
 
Nothing Yoda says to Luke or Obi-Wan makes a whole lot of sense, if Yoda knew there was another, ultra powerful Jedi out there, mere months before he meets up with Luke.  And why does Vader/The Empire seem to be employing hundreds of massive armoured battle robots, where were these in the movies?  Even on a gameplay level this is stupid..  Why didn't the developers realise that the best (or only good) parts of the first game was when you were killing stormtroopers or wookies by the room full with a flick of your wrist.
 
As much as I enjoyed the story from the original, this has decended into typical EU dribble.  Which is likely why the lead producer quit.
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Loved Force Unleashed! Can't wait to see how the story continues. Awesomeness.

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@lolwot: they just do, why do you have to question everything man? humans and their damn curiosity. seriously though, i get where he is coming from to some degree, the scope of the prequels was definitely greater than the originals. even though the original trilogy dealt with the big picture/war between the empire and the rebels, it still felt very concentrated, like we really didnt get a sense of how it was in a big scale. that being said, scope has nothing to do with good story telling, and in that respect, no one can in their right mind say the prequel trilogy had a richer story. it may have had a more deeply explored background, a bigger picture look at the inner workings of the galaxy as a whole, etc... ( all the work of having 3 movies of info to fall back on) but the story itself was shit.
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@President_Barackbar said:
" @Willy105:  Well, you're obviously a prequel respecter and because of that I have nothing left to say to you sir. "
Nah. The prequel movies were not very good.
 
But the story was, which resulted in the Clone Wars TV show, which is fantastic.
 
While the Original Trilogy were better movies, the story was not as rich as the ones from the prequels.
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Starkillers lips look a lil weird in that clip. Maybe it's the way they animate.

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@Andorski said:
" This is such a pathetic attempt to win over casual Star Wars fans. 
 
Real Star Wars fans want a cameo of Yaddle. 
 
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It's Michael Bolton!
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hopefully yoda can use his force powers to make this one actually good lul

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@S0ndor said:
Breaking news, people like to make money and the primary goal of a businesses is to make a profit! Moving on... "
As true as that is, I think video games are different. This year alone we have about two dozen awesome games to play, but did all of them really do that with money on the brain? Can you even make an awesome game with only money on the brain? I suppose Activision does, but not all of them do. I think a lot of them want that immortality of creating the next huge thing, than they do wanting the next huge paycheck.
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Whenever I see Yoda I keep thinking of my career guidance counselor at school. Damn, she is scary.

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Nothing has been retconned.  It was never stated that no one met Yoda on Dagobah before Luke did in Empire Strikes Back.  Cash-in?  Maybe.  Retcon?  Absolutely not.

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@Willy105:  Well, you're obviously a prequel respecter and because of that I have nothing left to say to you sir.
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@Soap said:
" Could this game be designed any more by a fucking buisness suit at this point? "
 
nope.  im only surprised yoda wasn't wearing a tie.
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This Yoda is MORE acceptable than the one that appears in the prequels, but he's still sort of a parody of the original. It's sad, really, that no one can figure out how to write this character. 
 
Come to thing of it, can anyone name an EU story where they did? I don't read EU, so I'm just curious if Yoda's ever come out without too much backwards-speak.

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Story looks good, Gameplay looks good. 
I don't mind the "retconning" too much, so it isn't too much of a deterent.
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Man, I just hope this one doesn't suck.  The idea behind Force Unleashed has so much potential for an awesome game.

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Could this game be designed any more by a fucking buisness suit at this point?

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I liked the first game so I'll keep an open mind about the next one.

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Is it wrong to be excited on a game just for the story?
 
Yes.
 
But I really want to see what happens next.
 
@President_Barackbar said:

" Really? Fuck this man, is Lucas just going to have that emo twit retconned into EVERYTHING cool about the original trilogy? His crest is the symbol of the Rebel Alliance and now he was really the first one to meet Yoda. IS NOTHING SACRED ANYMORE?! "

He starting the Rebel Alliance and his crest becoming the symbol was one of the greatest retcons ever. Although I'm not entirely sold on the idea of Yoda having some friends over before Luke got there, the first Force Unleashed's story gives enough confidence that it will be good.
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The visuals look really impressive. Much improved over the previous game.

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Aww.... it shouldn't be like that, he should be like Luke and believe he's just a stupid animal, I really wanted to see it happen like it did with Luke

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Why does Starkiller look way different from the 1st game? I know it's Starkiller's clone but he looks way different IMO. But I can't wait till TFU2 comes out, I'm a big fan of the first one and just Star Wars in general. I maxed out the achievements and the DLC.  

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I'm so sorry, but i'm tired of Yoda

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Just as long as you don't wind up either fighting him, or unlocking him as a playable character or something.  I've seen enough of Yoda flipping around like an idiot.

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@Landon: I did not crave a sequel, but since we are getting one, I might as well hope for the best. 
 
I did sort of enjoy the combat in the first game after a while, even though it felt very "game-y" compared to what I feel actual starwars lightsaber combat should be like (one hit kills against most non lighsaber weilders, ability to sever limbs of enemies). I hated the boss battles without exception, the part where you pulled down the star destroyer, and a small bunch of other things not worth the time to list, if the sequel has fixed these issues I'd be more than willing to play through it. 
 
I watched some gameplay footage since I hadn't actually seen any yet, and my takeaway is that it is still very much the same game as it's predecessor in terms of mechanics, something you can't really fault it for, but it's also not necessarily what I want out of a Star Wars game. (oh and it's got severing of limbs which is cool, even though you slice the guy half a dozen times first :/ )
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@Landon said:
" @RockmanBionics said:
" @Landon said:
" @Izick said:
" Cash in, this is. "
Yeah, I'm really excited for the new Star Wars movi-...wait. "
Are you misunderstanding the term "cash in" as something that can only be related to a movie licence game rather than, say, a sequel to a game that sold millions and that goes out of its way in order to bring back its protagonist that should, by all accounts, be dead and gone forever after the first game? Or am I the one misunderstanding something here? "
Yes, but did we not crave a sequel? I did. I wanted the other half of what made the first game so awesome. It had story, but the gameplay was lacking, and the sequel looks to have fixed that. "
Breaking news, people like to make money and the primary goal of a businesses is to make a profit!
 
Moving on...
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@RockmanBionics said:
" @Landon said:
" @Izick said:
" Cash in, this is. "
Yeah, I'm really excited for the new Star Wars movi-...wait. "
Are you misunderstanding the term "cash in" as something that can only be related to a movie licence game rather than, say, a sequel to a game that sold millions and that goes out of its way in order to bring back its protagonist that should, by all accounts, be dead and gone forever after the first game? Or am I the one misunderstanding something here? "
Yes, but did we not crave a sequel? I did. I wanted the other half of what made the first game so awesome. It had story, but the gameplay was lacking, and the sequel looks to have fixed that.
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@Landon said:
" @Izick said:
" Cash in, this is. "
Yeah, I'm really excited for the new Star Wars movi-...wait. "
Are you misunderstanding the term "cash in" as something that can only be related to a movie licence game rather than, say, a sequel to a game that sold millions and that goes out of its way in order to bring back its protagonist that should, by all accounts, be dead and gone forever after the first game?
 
Or am I the one misunderstanding something here?
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SOLD! 
 
Not really but this game is still on my "it might not be completely terrible" list.

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Yoda is adorable

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no surprise there....

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Man Starkiller is turning into SUCH a Mary Sue.

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@Andorski said:
" This is such a pathetic attempt to win over casual Star Wars fans. 
 
Real Star Wars fans want a cameo of Yaddle. 
 
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yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.no. 
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@President_Barackbar:  Had no idea about this. My knowledge of Star Wars doesn't go past the games and movies. Everything that happens after seems way to complicated for me.
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@Landon:  Except for the part where it totally happened in the EU. Really.
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not a fan of Star Wars: EXTREME! sorry, it just ain't my bag. Either are Sith and Jedi healing classes in that joke of an MMO that bioware is doing. 

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Really? Fuck this man, is Lucas just going to have that emo twit retconned into EVERYTHING cool about the original trilogy? His crest is the symbol of the Rebel Alliance and now he was really the first one to meet Yoda. IS NOTHING SACRED ANYMORE?!

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I also need to finish the first game. Sadly enough I have the Wii version and I really don't like the controls. So I'll probably have to buy another copy for PS3. Sounds interesting.