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Because you need another reason to play this industry-definer all over again.


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While some of us (read: me) patiently wait for a 3D version of The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, otherwise known as the very best of the 3D Zelda games, I've been following Nintendo's tweaks to the upcoming The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D. The newest addition, Boss Challenge Mode, comes courtesy of a quiet announcement from Nintendo of Europe. 

There aren't many surprises to Boss Challenge Mode, though. What you're reading is, basically, what you get. Outside of the main adventure, players can tackle Ocarina of Time 3D's many monstrous bosses, either in one-off varieties or marathon back-to-back challenges. 

No new bosses, apparently.

Ocarina of Time 3D also comes with the New Game Plus-like Master Quest mode, which changes the location of enemies and items—and flips the entire world around. As if 3D wasn't confusing enough... 

Look for Link's first sans-glasses 3D adventure on June 19th.
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yep biggest game for a  2011 console is the 1998 game of the year...

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Already featured on Kotaku. Good job man.

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@Little_Socrates said:

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That said, I think my favorite from a dungeon-design perspective is probably Twilight Princess (my brother soldiered forward, and there was some cool stuff!) and my favorite overall is definitely still Majora's Mask. I think Wind Waker is a really cool game that is marred by how little there really is to see/do while out in the ocean, and Ocarina of Time..
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The great sea in the WW is filled with stuff to do. There are 60+ island and all of them contain something for you to do-- whether it be a cave/mindungeon to explore or a town to visit. There were tons of collectables(which were actually fun to do for once, like taking pictures)  Maybe you didn't find the side-stuff in WW super compelling to do, but from a quantity perspective, it is definitely more than TP and OOT and hell, most games.

I thought the dungeon design in TP was probably the poorest of the series. It was 100% a trek through an(almost) entirely straight line, requiring no thought from me at all. You never had to backtrack or influence different parts of a level to solve a puzzle at all.Twilight Princess also had incredibly annoying elements to it like bug-collecting in the first three dungeons, an intro that would make a  modern Persona game blush and an overworld that honestly had much less to do in it than pretty much any other Zelda game.  And it was almost entirely sidequest free. The only sidequests were annoying collect-a-thons.


 .well, let's just say I could record probably an hour and a half of material on my issues with OoT.

I'd be interested in reading/hearing about 'em.

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" Its a real bummer nobody ever did anything more with the idea of "impending doom at zero hour+ time travel" after MM. You'd think it'd be perfect for the "consequences" gimmick at the games have now. "

Devil Survivor did the bolded part, at least. And its unfortunate enough that very little games use "impending doom at zero hour" by itself. Games love them some post-apocalyptic settings, but having the player play through a doom's day scenario(by which I mean society collapsing on to itself as the final day approaches) is incredibly rare.
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@mutha3 said:
" @Little_Socrates said:
" Ocarina of Time is an industry-definer, it's just not a very good game. Majora's Mask has probably not aged well either, but the core of the game is WAY better than OoT, and the latter-day Zeldas have all had major issues.
I strongly disagree. I am not a very nostalgic type of guy(I consider the PS2/XBOX/GC generation be leagues ahead of anything before it) and I don't even have that large a history with the franchise, but I consider the 3D Zelda games to be some of the most well designed and paced games in the history of this medium......well..... aside from Twilight Princess, of course. "
Well, I've observed that the Triforce-gathering sequence in Wind Waker is a huge turn-off to many people who played the game to that point, myself included. As for OoT, I'm going through it again with a specific "challenge why this game works this way" mentality right now, and most of the game is just rather bland. I haven't played MM in a long time, and I quit Twilight Princess a few months after release when a hard lock would've forced me to collect all the lightning bugs for the third dungeon AGAIN (I was on the last one, but I accidentally collected it at the same time as a Poe Soul and a red rupee and it couldn't handle that.)

That said, I think my favorite from a dungeon-design perspective is probably Twilight Princess (my brother soldiered forward, and there was some cool stuff!) and my favorite overall is definitely still Majora's Mask. I think Wind Waker is a really cool game that is marred by how little there really is to see/do while out in the ocean, and Ocarina of Time...well, let's just say I could record probably an hour and a half of material on my issues with OoT.
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@Little_Socrates said:
" Ocarina of Time is an industry-definer, it's just not a very good game. Majora's Mask has probably not aged well either, but the core of the game is WAY better than OoT, and the latter-day Zeldas have all had major issues.
I strongly disagree. I am not a very nostalgic type of guy(I consider the PS2/XBOX/GC generation be leagues ahead of anything before it) and I don't even have that large a history with the franchise, but I consider the 3D Zelda games to be some of the most well designed and paced games in the history of this medium.

.....well..... aside from Twilight Princess, of course.
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nice info :]
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Its a real bummer nobody ever did anything more with the idea of "impending doom at zero hour+ time travel" after MM. You'd think it'd be perfect for the "consequences" gimmick at the games have now.

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What's your favourite Zelda game? Anything but MM?

Try again.

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I'm a bit split on whether or not to play this game in Master Quest mode. On the one hand it'd make the game feel more like something new, on the other knowing all the solutions to the puzzles helps the feeling of familiarity and nostalgia which might lead to me enjoying it more.


Choices.

Anyhow Majora's Mask is awesome, though mostly because of how dark it is.
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Oh man can't wait for this game.

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Oh, you're Patrick Klepek, what's up? That mirror image new game plus is news to me- I just want this game to come out so I have a reason to buy a 3DS.

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@Little_Socrates said:
"Ocarina of Time is an industry-definer, it's just not a very good game. Majora's Mask has probably not aged well either, but the core of the game is WAY better than OoT, and the latter-day Zeldas have all had major issues. "
Yeah I think the main idea of Majora's Mask is great, it's just so fucking hard to play. Like Dead Rising.
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Majora's dope, yo.

Most Zelda games are dope, yo.

Yo, dope.

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@patrickklepek said:

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, otherwise known as the very best of the 3D Zelda games"

From this point onward you are my favorite Whiskey Media employee.

EDIT

Major's Mask, best Zelda, regardless of 3D? Maybe. 
(I have not played the GBA ones. And I'm not saying LTTP ain't cool.)

Let me just restate the above.
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Master quest is pretty nice when you've completed the game to many times :) 3D though, I don't know if it's worth it.. Boss mode might be nice.. once =/

EDIT: Majoras is awesome!

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Zelda comment sparks discussion. Sweet.


I'd agree, to be honest. My brother and I used to spend hours playing Zelda together, and it's always Majora's Mask that we cite as the best.

I've gone into it a lot before, so I won't here, but: that atmosphere, man. Incredible.
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I don't know, It's a toughie for me between Majora's Mask and Wind Waker.


But if we're including 2D ones then LTTP wins by a mile.
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Considering bosses are probably my least favorite part of Zelda games, I can't say I'm to excited about this.

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MAJORA'S MASK IS AWESOME. DON'T FALL FOR THE NAYSAYERS.

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@MormonWarrior said:
" Wait...Majora's Mask is the best of the 3D Zeldas? Are you high? It's like the worst one!! It was a neat concept, but it's almost unplayable now.Whatevs, Pat. You're officially on probation status for me. "
considering I just played it about a month ago, ummm... no.
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@blaakmawf: I didn't HATE Majora's Mask, it just isn't the best Zelda game by a long shot.

Or a hookshot. Zing!
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@pat4327 said:
" Klepek, I liked you before you came to Whiskey Media, but there is no way that Majora's Mask is the best Zelda. "
I, on the other hand, wholeheartedly agree with you Patrick; Majora's Mask is excellent.
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Just give me a quest log, Nintendo. That's all I'm asking.

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Klepek, I liked you before you came to Whiskey Media, but there is no way that Majora's Mask is the best Zelda.

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My Majora's Mask comment did not go over well, but I must stand tall. Stay together, fellow Majorians.

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Patrick, I was skeptical, but the first line of this article confirms you as the greatest thing to happen to Giant Bomb.

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Wait...Majora's Mask is the best of the 3D Zeldas? Are you high? It's like the worst one!! It was a neat concept, but it's almost unplayable now.

Whatevs, Pat. You're officially on probation status for me.

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@C0V3RT said:
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The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, otherwise known as the very best of the 3D Zelda games

I'll be honest,  Klepek, I wasn't familiar with you before your hire... but I have been won over.

"
Ditto. Us MMers need to stick together. 
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This Klepek fellow seems to be made of the good stuff, for MM is indeed the best.


Nintendo is doing their best at making this game worth the price of admission, I wounder if they are planning to sell it at higher than $40.
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@I_smell said:
" You must be WAY INTO Zelda, cos I'd never call anything an "industry definer" and I just played Majora's Mask recently n it was REALLY difficult to get into. "
Ocarina of Time is an industry-definer, it's just not a very good game. Majora's Mask has probably not aged well either, but the core of the game is WAY better than OoT, and the latter-day Zeldas have all had major issues.

Have no interest in playing OoT ever again after I finish the "crushed under-heel rose-tinted glasses" playthrough I'm doing with my fellow podcaster. Especially on a handheld.
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They keep adding reason to rebuy this amazing game.

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This game is so old!! The amount of times they've released it is meddling with it's greatness!

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This pleases me, the old game alone would've done it for me so this just feels great.

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@patrickklepek said:
" Major's Mask, best Zelda, regardless of 3D? Maybe. 

(I have not played the GBA ones. And I'm not saying LTTP ain't cool.)
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Majora's Mask is definitely the best 3D zelda!
I like you already Patrick <3
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Boss challenge mode sounds like a welcome addition to an already stellar game. I wonder if there's a special reward for beating all bosses back-to-back. They seem to have tweaked Master Quest as well, since the press release mentions that Hyrule is mirrored in that mode.

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this is perfect, even more reason to replay this already replayable game


im really happy its not just a stupid port
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@ArbitraryWater: Mayora's mask was great except for that awful time constraint gimmick and no one on Earth could beat it without a walkthrough.
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Maybe if I buy 5 copies of Ocarina, they'll re-release Majora's Mask... heh, yeah right.

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I love Boss Rush modes. The first time I really enjoyed one was in Castlevania Harmony of Dissonance on the GBA. Since then I've been wanting the concept for other games like Batman AA, but the feature always seems to get ignored.

edit: And I wouldn't call a Master Quest mode anything like New Game+  since you have your items and health reset. But I guess my issues is more with the mis-described concept page.

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@ArbitraryWater said:
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@patrickklepek said:

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While some of us (read: me) patiently wait for a 3D version of The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, otherwise known as the very best of the 3D Zelda games
 Aw man Patrick. I was all open minded that you were going to be a cool news guy, but then you had to drop this bomb. Majora's Mask is not the best of anything, unless the category is "Best 3D Zelda game to have a timer, a bunch of annoying sidequests, poorly designed dungeons and a mask gimmick". Then we could talk. But it still sucks. I'd rather play Twilight Princess, and that's saying something as I have no love for that either. "
lol. 
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About time we got someone on this site that recognizes the greatness of Majora's Mask.

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@patrickklepek
Nah, Ocarina of Time was the industry-definer. Majora's Mask was just a messed up, dark, weird to get into Zelda. That's exactly why I love it.
Now just try explaining that to the GB staff!!
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Okay Patrick, you are now my new favorite member of the staff.

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@patrickklepek said:
" Nah, Ocarina of Time was the industry-definer. Majora's Mask was just a messed up, dark, weird to get into Zelda. That's exactly why I love it. "
It's got that, but I don't play my zelda games for atmosphere. I guess we'll *sigh* agree to disagree. Welcome to the site.
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Nah, Ocarina of Time was the industry-definer. Majora's Mask was just a messed up, dark, weird to get into Zelda. That's exactly why I love it.

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@patrickklepek said:

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While some of us (read: me) patiently wait for a 3D version of The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, otherwise known as the very best of the 3D Zelda games
 Aw man Patrick. I was all open minded that you were going to be a cool news guy, but then you had to drop this bomb. Majora's Mask is not the best of anything, unless the category is "Best 3D Zelda game to have a timer, a bunch of annoying sidequests, poorly designed dungeons and a mask gimmick". Then we could talk. But it still sucks. I'd rather play Twilight Princess, and that's saying something as I have no love for that either.
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@MegaMetaTurtle: Yeah, I have. An old roommate of mine bought them years ago off eBay. We played them and then he sold them and the CDi on eBay shortly after that, lol.
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OOT and MM were just really different. Each good in their own way.