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    Game » consists of 26 releases. Released Mar 02, 2010

    Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is the second installment in this spin-off Battlefield series. It has a more serious campaign and a vastly expanded multiplayer system.

    Winning a round is worthless...

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    #1  Edited By stinky51012

     If your team wins the match, you get a measly 100 points bonus. This doesn't award teamwork at all. In fact, it is better to let the enemies destroy your MCOM stations so the game goes on longer and you get more XP. I think winning a round should be at least a 500-1000 points reward. Then people would try harder and not all be Rambo. Who agrees? brb

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    #2  Edited By TwoOneFive

    i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier. 

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    #3  Edited By Out_On_Bail

    I kind of agree with this. There should definitely be a tad bit more for the winning team, otherwise people will just start to camp a spot and drag it out for more xp.   TwoOneFive is right though, adding a multiplier would probably fix this issue, but who knows. At any rate, I'm so tired of playing the one map that I've all but given up on the demo. It's gotten so bad I even started playing MW2 again.

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    I agree, I usually don't care much for winning if I'm getting EXP  
    And, will it really take like 4million EXP to get to level 4 in the real game ? Cause that 100 point bonus is completely useless if so. 

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    #5  Edited By Snail

    Yeah, now that you mention it, that is kind of lame. 
     
    Not that I really care though.

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    #6  Edited By big_jon
    @TwoOneFive said:
    "i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "

    That would work.
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    #7  Edited By Kazona

    They should micro-transactions out of xp! Now that is the future!

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    #8  Edited By dulmonkey

    The game doesn't reward much for winning its true. But if you want to get more XP, play as a squad. that's where the team work rewards are. I once got 400 XP for throwing down one medkit. the squad based XP is out of control in that game, they don't need to tack more on the end.
     
    I'm willing to bet the reason is if you play as a squad and lose, you still are leveling.

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    #9  Edited By meteora

    100 points only?
     
    What were they thinking? That's pretty pathetic.

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    #10  Edited By ezekielzero
    @addictedtopinescent: im pretty sure the 50 mill xp thing is just for the demo to stop people leveling too much, still if anyone actually gets to lvl 3 ill be seriously impressed
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    #11  Edited By Binman88

    Remember when games didn't have XP to gain? Can you not just enjoy the fact that you helped win a round?

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    #12  Edited By big_jon
    @Binman88 said:
    "Remember when games didn't have XP to gain? Can you not just enjoy the fact that you helped win a round? "

    The point is it would help with self serving players.
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    #13  Edited By Jayross

    I never even knew that we got exp for winning, I feel satisfied enough winning a game though.

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    @TwoOneFive said:
    " i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "
    Yeah I loved that about Killzone.
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    #15  Edited By Andorski

    BFBC2 does reward teamwork - just not through winning.  Using your classes support features and sticking with your squad gets you a lot of points.  I'm averaging getting the "best player in round" pin every other game because I usually play Medic and heal my teammates a lot, and I usually always get the "best in squad" pin.
     
    Their current system just prevents players getting screwed because they have crappy teammates.

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    It's an extra 100 exp that you wouldn't have had if you didn't win.

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    #17  Edited By Ping5000

    The reward of just winning isn't enough? 
     
    Hm.

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    #18  Edited By Pibo47
    @TwoOneFive said:
    " i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "  
    Killzone 2 MP is so near perfection its not even funny.
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    #19  Edited By natetodamax
    @addictedtopinescent said:
    " And, will it really take like 4million EXP to get to level 4 in the real game ? Cause that 100 point bonus is completely useless if so.  "
    LOL, no. That was only to prevent people from leveling up any further.
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    #20  Edited By Seppli

    A points multiplier for the winning team would be cool, I'm all for extra incentive. But... there's gonna be people exploiting such a thing. Points and Ladder boasters.
     
    Personally, I play to win. I don't need extra incentive to go for gold. Winning is great. Beating the 'other' guys is great. It's the point of every competitive game.
     
    Winning will never be pointless! Stop whining.

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    #21  Edited By natetodamax
    @TwoOneFive said:
    " i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "
    That would actually frustrate me, because if I lost the game I would be upset that I missed out on a chance to get a lot of XP.
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    #22  Edited By sodiumCyclops
    @Pibo47 said:
    " @TwoOneFive said:
    " i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "  
    Killzone 2 MP is so near perfection its not even funny. "
    That's why no one plays it.
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    #23  Edited By pause422

    The entire game rewards teamwork throughout. Just not winning a game. There are plenty of reasons why this is a good thing. if you care so much about this, I guess you're playing the wrong game.

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    @natetodamax said:
    " @TwoOneFive said:
    " i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "
    That would actually frustrate me, because if I lost the game I would be upset that I missed out on a chance to get a lot of XP. "
    Maybe you should stick to Single player, I have played tons of matches and it never bothers me, but I'm never there for points.
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    #25  Edited By natetodamax
    @Bucketdeth said:
    " @natetodamax said:
    " @TwoOneFive said:
    " i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "
    That would actually frustrate me, because if I lost the game I would be upset that I missed out on a chance to get a lot of XP. "
    Maybe you should stick to Single player, I have played tons of matches and it never bothers me, but I'm never there for points. "
    I was just guessing, since I don't own a PS3 (therefore I do not have the game)
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    #26  Edited By Seppli
    @Meteora said:
    " 100 points only?  What were they thinking? That's pretty pathetic. "
    It will take a good player about 250-300 hours to reach the highest rank (50). Earning all the unlocks took me 160 hours in the beta. I barely played maxed out kits though, so it might take you longer, if you keep sticking to a maxed out kit.
     
    DICE might have retweaked it somewhat and there are more unlocks too in the retail game, but you get the general idea. There's plenty of unlocks and you'll get new stuff for a very long time.
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    #27  Edited By mosdl

    bf2 had a multiplier, but I believe it was only for the commander?

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    #28  Edited By CoheedFavorHouse
    @Agent47CSim2 said:
    " It's an extra 100 exp that you wouldn't have had if you didn't win. "
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    #29  Edited By Djeffers03

    I think an online petition is in order! That's bound to work!

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    #30  Edited By jmrwacko

    If you win, your score should be multiplied 2x. That would influence people to play as a team.

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    #31  Edited By pause422
    @jmrwacko said:
    " If you win, your score should be multiplied 2x. That would influence people to play as a team. "
    How many more points and XP you generally get just from playing as a team while the game is going on should honestly be enough incentive. I mean, a Battlefield game playing lone wolf is never even as fun as when working with your team, but you get rewarded for so many things in it when you help your team..its just common sense to me. Its mostly all the MW2 kids that come into a game like this and have no teamwork, which will probably happen just about forever, but that's to be expected. A bonus at the end f the game, I just don't see it as necessary. There are plenty of ways to get a ridiculous amount of points in a game, that revolve around teamwork.
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    #32  Edited By Valco
    @ezekielzero:
    On the PC beta we can get up to level 11
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    #33  Edited By ReaperOfLiving
    @addictedtopinescent said:
    " I agree, I usually don't care much for winning if I'm getting EXP  And, will it really take like 4million EXP to get to level 4 in the real game ? Cause that 100 point bonus is completely useless if so.  "
    I am pretty sure they raised the XP because they did not want people to experience more then 2-3 level ups.  I barley get 2,000 a game if from level 2-3 is 4,980,000 I wouldn't even try to reach it.
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    #34  Edited By JoelTGM
    @Ping5000 said:
    " The reward of just winning isn't enough?  Hm. "
    Na, these are modern games with experience points and stuff, and like others have said, people will prolong the match to get more exp, camping and farming for it.  It's all about the numbers and the ranks, and if you get 100 points for a win, compared to several thousand for just farming dudes, people will go for more exp.  I don't care either way though, because I play it like a game and I try to win.  If someone tries to farm exp it doesn't effect my game at all, unless they're on my team, and if you play with randoms you have to expect crap teammates often.
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    #35  Edited By SpecTackle

    It's pointless if you're a slave to the ranking system. Otherwise playing the game normally is the right way to go. But if you're there just to see your rank go up, might I suggest not even putting the game in the tray?

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    #36  Edited By JoelTGM
    @ColumnBreaker said:
    " It's pointless if you're a slave to the ranking system. Otherwise playing the game normally is the right way to go. But if you're there just to see your rank go up, might I suggest not even putting the game in the tray? "
    You said it :)
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    #37  Edited By Novyx

    The only thing I would like to see changed would be to scale the bonus (for rush mode, in this case) to be higher based on how decisively you win. Higher bonus for winning as defenders without losing an M-Com, for example, and a  bonus for cumulative tickets saved as attackers.

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    #38  Edited By stinky51012
    @Novyx: I think that's brilliant
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    #39  Edited By Novyx
    @Stinky51012:
    Thanks. I just think it would reinforce the way I always play, which is to try not just to win, but win by as much as possible. I don't know if many people play like that, or would even enjoy it, but I would love for there to be incentive to make it more to my tastes. After all, it's meaningless unless you can direct a gameplay director at DICE to this thread. No reason not to dream, though.
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    #40  Edited By TwoOneFive
    @sodiumCyclops said:

    " @Pibo47 said:

    " @TwoOneFive said:
    " i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier.  "  
    Killzone 2 MP is so near perfection its not even funny. "
    That's why no one plays it. "
    you know how i know you're a douchebag? because thats completely wrong. thousands are on right now.  
     
    Killzone 2's multiplayer set the bar pretty high for all future FPS mps. The whole warzone mode, coupled upgrading class systems (lik perks but better, which MW2 sort of copied a lot of what K2 does it, like instead of just having "perks" you can only get other perks by using the ones you have and upgrading them), the map designs are among the best ever created. Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes and kills everyone outside, and finally the clan support system is absolutely amazing. You can even watch replays of every match you play on maps on the website so you can do better strategies. the only thing it lacked was a "hardcore" no-respawn mode.  
    sure things like the turrets and the spawn grenades arent totally unique to K2, but i believe IW saw things like that work so well in K2 and knew they were awesome and so they put it in MW2.  
     
    All i know is, Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
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    #41  Edited By morningdrive

    i noticed the people that just go out and kill like its team deathmatch score the lowest in the game, but the ones that actually revive,repair and give ammo to teammates score alot higher. I'm usually at the top of the scoreboard because I am a team player sadly no one else is that I have played with. I ask for ammo nothing...i die next to someone that is a medic and they don't help me either. one guy threw a med pack instead of reviving me.

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    #42  Edited By Tuggah

    is the thrill of winning not enough?

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    #43  Edited By MAN_FLANNEL
    @TwoOneFive:  
    Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag?  Sounds like you need to calm down bud.    

    the map designs are among the best ever created

     Wow, it must be the best game ever!

    the clan support system is absolutely amazing.

     Super duper amazing.  

     Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes

     You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War, Halo 2, and TF2?

     Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.

    Ok know you know the future?  You must be like an internet Superman!
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    #44  Edited By sodiumCyclops
    @MAN_FLANNEL said:
    " @TwoOneFive:  
    Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag?  Sounds like you need to calm down bud.    

    the map designs are among the best ever created

     Wow, it must be the best game ever!

    the clan support system is absolutely amazing.

     Super duper amazing.  

     Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes

     You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?

     Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.

    Ok know you know the future?  You must be like an internet Superman! "
    Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters.
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    #45  Edited By TwoOneFive
    @sodiumCyclops said:

    " @MAN_FLANNEL said:

    " @TwoOneFive:  
    Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag?  Sounds like you need to calm down bud.    

    the map designs are among the best ever created

     Wow, it must be the best game ever!

    the clan support system is absolutely amazing.

     Super duper amazing.  

     Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes

     You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?

     Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.

    Ok know you know the future?  You must be like an internet Superman! "
    Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
    yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. 
    and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before.  
    and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb. 
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    #46  Edited By sodiumCyclops
    @TwoOneFive said:
    " @sodiumCyclops said:

    " @MAN_FLANNEL said:

    " @TwoOneFive:  
    Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag?  Sounds like you need to calm down bud.    

    the map designs are among the best ever created

     Wow, it must be the best game ever!

    the clan support system is absolutely amazing.

     Super duper amazing.  

     Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes

     You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?

     Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.

    Ok know you know the future?  You must be like an internet Superman! "
    Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
    yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before.  and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb.  
     
    Not@TwoOneFive said:
    " @sodiumCyclops said:

    " @MAN_FLANNEL said:

    " @TwoOneFive:  
    Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag?  Sounds like you need to calm down bud.    

    the map designs are among the best ever created

     Wow, it must be the best game ever!

    the clan support system is absolutely amazing.

     Super duper amazing.  

     Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes

     You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?

     Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.

    Ok know you know the future?  You must be like an internet Superman! "
    Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
    yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before.  and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb.  "
    Claiming KZ2 has better map design than TF2 is pretty bold pal.
     
    Also, it's pretty obvious that no one other than fan boys have stuck to KZ2's MP. You wanna know where all the players are? Probably playing a better game.
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    #47  Edited By Jimbo

    You aren't chasing that XP/upgrades so that you can become more proficient at winning the game?  
     
    Gamers are funny.

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    #48  Edited By TwoOneFive
    @sodiumCyclops said:
    " @TwoOneFive said:
    " @sodiumCyclops said:

    " @MAN_FLANNEL said:

    " @TwoOneFive:  
    Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag?  Sounds like you need to calm down bud.    

    the map designs are among the best ever created

     Wow, it must be the best game ever!

    the clan support system is absolutely amazing.

     Super duper amazing.  

     Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes

     You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?

     Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.

    Ok know you know the future?  You must be like an internet Superman! "
    Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
    yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before.  and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb.  
     
    Not@TwoOneFive said:
    " @sodiumCyclops said:

    " @MAN_FLANNEL said:

    " @TwoOneFive:  
    Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag?  Sounds like you need to calm down bud.    

    the map designs are among the best ever created

     Wow, it must be the best game ever!

    the clan support system is absolutely amazing.

     Super duper amazing.  

     Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes

     You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?

     Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.

    Ok know you know the future?  You must be like an internet Superman! "
    Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
    yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before.  and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb.  "
    Claiming KZ2 has better map design than TF2 is pretty bold pal.
     
    Also, it's pretty obvious that no one other than fan boys have stuck to KZ2's MP. You wanna know where all the players are? Probably playing a better game.
    "
    oh i guess nothing but casual gamers are playing Team Fortress 2 huh? 
    and yes, I do think that Killzone 2 has better map design. if you ever played the game you would know they are awesome. only fanboys here are the people bashing Killzone 2 even though they have never played it.  
    Only reason I brought it up in this thread was to point out that Killzone 2 makes winning a match feel far more important than most other games do, and therefore losing really sucks. 
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    #49  Edited By sodiumCyclops
    @TwoOneFive: 
     
    I owned and played KZ2 since it was launched. Ended up trading it in for L4D2.
     
    I'm getting out of this argument as this is just like talking to a brick wall made on fanboys.
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    #50  Edited By Nasar7
    @morningdrive said:
    " i noticed the people that just go out and kill like its team deathmatch score the lowest in the game, but the ones that actually revive,repair and give ammo to teammates score alot higher. I'm usually at the top of the scoreboard because I am a team player sadly no one else is that I have played with. I ask for ammo nothing...i die next to someone that is a medic and they don't help me either. one guy threw a med pack instead of reviving me. "
    Yeah, I've noticed this too. The amount of experience the game gives you for playing your class right is its own reward, its almost rpg-like.

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