If your team wins the match, you get a measly 100 points bonus. This doesn't award teamwork at all. In fact, it is better to let the enemies destroy your MCOM stations so the game goes on longer and you get more XP. I think winning a round should be at least a 500-1000 points reward. Then people would try harder and not all be Rambo. Who agrees? brb
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Game » consists of 26 releases. Released Mar 02, 2010
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is the second installment in this spin-off Battlefield series. It has a more serious campaign and a vastly expanded multiplayer system.
Winning a round is worthless...
I kind of agree with this. There should definitely be a tad bit more for the winning team, otherwise people will just start to camp a spot and drag it out for more xp. TwoOneFive is right though, adding a multiplier would probably fix this issue, but who knows. At any rate, I'm so tired of playing the one map that I've all but given up on the demo. It's gotten so bad I even started playing MW2 again.
I agree, I usually don't care much for winning if I'm getting EXP
And, will it really take like 4million EXP to get to level 4 in the real game ? Cause that 100 point bonus is completely useless if so.
The game doesn't reward much for winning its true. But if you want to get more XP, play as a squad. that's where the team work rewards are. I once got 400 XP for throwing down one medkit. the squad based XP is out of control in that game, they don't need to tack more on the end.
I'm willing to bet the reason is if you play as a squad and lose, you still are leveling.
" i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier. "Yeah I loved that about Killzone.
BFBC2 does reward teamwork - just not through winning. Using your classes support features and sticking with your squad gets you a lot of points. I'm averaging getting the "best player in round" pin every other game because I usually play Medic and heal my teammates a lot, and I usually always get the "best in squad" pin.
Their current system just prevents players getting screwed because they have crappy teammates.
" And, will it really take like 4million EXP to get to level 4 in the real game ? Cause that 100 point bonus is completely useless if so. "LOL, no. That was only to prevent people from leveling up any further.
A points multiplier for the winning team would be cool, I'm all for extra incentive. But... there's gonna be people exploiting such a thing. Points and Ladder boasters.
Personally, I play to win. I don't need extra incentive to go for gold. Winning is great. Beating the 'other' guys is great. It's the point of every competitive game.
Winning will never be pointless! Stop whining.
" i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier. "That would actually frustrate me, because if I lost the game I would be upset that I missed out on a chance to get a lot of XP.
" @TwoOneFive said:That's why no one plays it." i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier. "Killzone 2 MP is so near perfection its not even funny. "
" @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you should stick to Single player, I have played tons of matches and it never bothers me, but I'm never there for points." i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier. "That would actually frustrate me, because if I lost the game I would be upset that I missed out on a chance to get a lot of XP. "
" @natetodamax said:I was just guessing, since I don't own a PS3 (therefore I do not have the game)" @TwoOneFive said:Maybe you should stick to Single player, I have played tons of matches and it never bothers me, but I'm never there for points. "" i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier. "That would actually frustrate me, because if I lost the game I would be upset that I missed out on a chance to get a lot of XP. "
" 100 points only? What were they thinking? That's pretty pathetic. "It will take a good player about 250-300 hours to reach the highest rank (50). Earning all the unlocks took me 160 hours in the beta. I barely played maxed out kits though, so it might take you longer, if you keep sticking to a maxed out kit.
DICE might have retweaked it somewhat and there are more unlocks too in the retail game, but you get the general idea. There's plenty of unlocks and you'll get new stuff for a very long time.
" If you win, your score should be multiplied 2x. That would influence people to play as a team. "How many more points and XP you generally get just from playing as a team while the game is going on should honestly be enough incentive. I mean, a Battlefield game playing lone wolf is never even as fun as when working with your team, but you get rewarded for so many things in it when you help your team..its just common sense to me. Its mostly all the MW2 kids that come into a game like this and have no teamwork, which will probably happen just about forever, but that's to be expected. A bonus at the end f the game, I just don't see it as necessary. There are plenty of ways to get a ridiculous amount of points in a game, that revolve around teamwork.
" I agree, I usually don't care much for winning if I'm getting EXP And, will it really take like 4million EXP to get to level 4 in the real game ? Cause that 100 point bonus is completely useless if so. "I am pretty sure they raised the XP because they did not want people to experience more then 2-3 level ups. I barley get 2,000 a game if from level 2-3 is 4,980,000 I wouldn't even try to reach it.
" The reward of just winning isn't enough? Hm. "Na, these are modern games with experience points and stuff, and like others have said, people will prolong the match to get more exp, camping and farming for it. It's all about the numbers and the ranks, and if you get 100 points for a win, compared to several thousand for just farming dudes, people will go for more exp. I don't care either way though, because I play it like a game and I try to win. If someone tries to farm exp it doesn't effect my game at all, unless they're on my team, and if you play with randoms you have to expect crap teammates often.
It's pointless if you're a slave to the ranking system. Otherwise playing the game normally is the right way to go. But if you're there just to see your rank go up, might I suggest not even putting the game in the tray?
Thanks. I just think it would reinforce the way I always play, which is to try not just to win, but win by as much as possible. I don't know if many people play like that, or would even enjoy it, but I would love for there to be incentive to make it more to my tastes. After all, it's meaningless unless you can direct a gameplay director at DICE to this thread. No reason not to dream, though.
you know how i know you're a douchebag? because thats completely wrong. thousands are on right now." @Pibo47 said:
" @TwoOneFive said:That's why no one plays it. "" i wish all games were like killzone 2, because when you win a match you got a 1.5 multiplier. "Killzone 2 MP is so near perfection its not even funny. "
Killzone 2's multiplayer set the bar pretty high for all future FPS mps. The whole warzone mode, coupled upgrading class systems (lik perks but better, which MW2 sort of copied a lot of what K2 does it, like instead of just having "perks" you can only get other perks by using the ones you have and upgrading them), the map designs are among the best ever created. Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes and kills everyone outside, and finally the clan support system is absolutely amazing. You can even watch replays of every match you play on maps on the website so you can do better strategies. the only thing it lacked was a "hardcore" no-respawn mode.
sure things like the turrets and the spawn grenades arent totally unique to K2, but i believe IW saw things like that work so well in K2 and knew they were awesome and so they put it in MW2.
All i know is, Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
i noticed the people that just go out and kill like its team deathmatch score the lowest in the game, but the ones that actually revive,repair and give ammo to teammates score alot higher. I'm usually at the top of the scoreboard because I am a team player sadly no one else is that I have played with. I ask for ammo nothing...i die next to someone that is a medic and they don't help me either. one guy threw a med pack instead of reviving me.
Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag? Sounds like you need to calm down bud.
Wow, it must be the best game ever!the map designs are among the best ever created
Super duper amazing.the clan support system is absolutely amazing.
You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War, Halo 2, and TF2?Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes
Ok know you know the future? You must be like an internet Superman!Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
" @TwoOneFive:Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters.
Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag? Sounds like you need to calm down bud.Wow, it must be the best game ever!the map designs are among the best ever created
Super duper amazing.the clan support system is absolutely amazing.
You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes
Ok know you know the future? You must be like an internet Superman! "Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal." @MAN_FLANNEL said:
" @TwoOneFive:Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag? Sounds like you need to calm down bud.Wow, it must be the best game ever!the map designs are among the best ever created
Super duper amazing.the clan support system is absolutely amazing.
You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes
Ok know you know the future? You must be like an internet Superman! "Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before.
and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb.
" @sodiumCyclops said:yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before. and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb." @MAN_FLANNEL said:
" @TwoOneFive:Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag? Sounds like you need to calm down bud.Wow, it must be the best game ever!the map designs are among the best ever created
Super duper amazing.the clan support system is absolutely amazing.
You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes
Ok know you know the future? You must be like an internet Superman! "Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
Not@TwoOneFive said:" @sodiumCyclops said:Claiming KZ2 has better map design than TF2 is pretty bold pal.yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before. and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb. "" @MAN_FLANNEL said:
" @TwoOneFive:Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag? Sounds like you need to calm down bud.Wow, it must be the best game ever!the map designs are among the best ever created
Super duper amazing.the clan support system is absolutely amazing.
You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes
Ok know you know the future? You must be like an internet Superman! "Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
Also, it's pretty obvious that no one other than fan boys have stuck to KZ2's MP. You wanna know where all the players are? Probably playing a better game.
" @TwoOneFive said:oh i guess nothing but casual gamers are playing Team Fortress 2 huh?" @sodiumCyclops said:"yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before. and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb." @MAN_FLANNEL said:
" @TwoOneFive:Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag? Sounds like you need to calm down bud.Wow, it must be the best game ever!the map designs are among the best ever created
Super duper amazing.the clan support system is absolutely amazing.
You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes
Ok know you know the future? You must be like an internet Superman! "Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
Not@TwoOneFive said:" @sodiumCyclops said:Claiming KZ2 has better map design than TF2 is pretty bold pal.yes i know lots of that shit is in team fortress 2, but not all of it, especially the clan support and the excellent map designs. but hey, not everyone wants to play team fortress 2 pal. and no i have never played FUCK ALL online shooters before. and man_flannel, you're a douchebag too. you're response to online maps point i made is dumb. "" @MAN_FLANNEL said:
" @TwoOneFive:Pretty much all of what he listed was already in Team Fortress 2. If anyone claims KZ2 to have the most perfect MP ever, has clearly played FUCK ALL online shooters. "
Someone says "That's why no one plays it" so you call them a douchebag? Sounds like you need to calm down bud.Wow, it must be the best game ever!the map designs are among the best ever created
Super duper amazing.the clan support system is absolutely amazing.
You mean like the speeding trains in Gears of War and Halo 2?Especially those with danger spots like the train and the map that literally explodes every 5 minutes
Ok know you know the future? You must be like an internet Superman! "Killzone 3 is going to have the best MP for an FPS game ever.
Also, it's pretty obvious that no one other than fan boys have stuck to KZ2's MP. You wanna know where all the players are? Probably playing a better game.
and yes, I do think that Killzone 2 has better map design. if you ever played the game you would know they are awesome. only fanboys here are the people bashing Killzone 2 even though they have never played it.
Only reason I brought it up in this thread was to point out that Killzone 2 makes winning a match feel far more important than most other games do, and therefore losing really sucks.
I owned and played KZ2 since it was launched. Ended up trading it in for L4D2.
I'm getting out of this argument as this is just like talking to a brick wall made on fanboys.
" i noticed the people that just go out and kill like its team deathmatch score the lowest in the game, but the ones that actually revive,repair and give ammo to teammates score alot higher. I'm usually at the top of the scoreboard because I am a team player sadly no one else is that I have played with. I ask for ammo nothing...i die next to someone that is a medic and they don't help me either. one guy threw a med pack instead of reviving me. "Yeah, I've noticed this too. The amount of experience the game gives you for playing your class right is its own reward, its almost rpg-like.
Please Log In to post.
This edit will also create new pages on Giant Bomb for:
Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.Comment and Save
Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Giant Bomb users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.
Log in to comment