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Brink
Game » consists of 10 releases. Released May 10, 2011
A multiplayer-focused, class-based first-person shooter running on id Tech 4, in which oppressive soldiers and anarchistic terrorists battle for the few remaining resources on a failed paradise known as the Ark.
So, do You think Jeff Should also Review the PC Version?
What exactly would necessitate another review? The majority of the gameplay design remains unchanged from version to version and I don't think many of his complaints would be addressed. Plus I'm sure the poor man is having PTSD episodes due to that game now. I'm genuinely interested in your perspective though.
Yes, review it on the moble phone.
Oh, I mean PC.
It's the same GD turd on PC, but we need a second opinion.
Because a lot of folks are having fun playing it.
" Not enough of a difference to matter. "That is how I feel. I think Jeff is usually pretty good at fairly playing games, and I think he will play the PC version just out of his own curiosity. But again, don't think it will change the score much. I have not played the game, but I feel like this game is going to generally the same experience on PC. Sure, maybe there are going to be a few more players and server browsers are always great; I personally wish they would bring them back to consoles games. But it sounds like Jeffs biggest problem with this game is the mechanics and more than anything lasting appeal. I will give this a go maybe when it becomes cheaper. I don't mind buying online only games like Battlefield 1942. I jumped on that game day one in 2002ish, which was before online-only games were an ok thing to do.
60 bucks is a lot to spend on an amazing game let alone just an "alright" game. I can see the appeal, I dropped $40 on Battlefield 1942 day one when it came out considering how janky it was.
Haven't played the console version but the PC version is pretty bad and I agree with pretty much everything Jeff said in the review for the Xbox version.
" I am already fucking sick of people trying to think of ways to make this game better 'Oh play it with a full group' or 'Play the PC Version' Shut the fuck up, it's just a bad game. "@N7 said:
" No. Because when you get down to it: Who really cares anymore? Brink isn't worth it. The entire internet agrees.If you like it, good. But move on with your life already. "You guys are SO wrong.
" I am already fucking sick of people trying to think of ways to make this game better 'Oh play it with a full group' or 'Play the PC Version' Shut the fuck up, it's just a bad game. "
The same can be said of Team Fortress 2 and Monday Night Combat. Team based and heavy objective based shooters are only "good" for a general audience given certain circumstances.
The game has a lot of flaws and is most definitely not worth $60. That being said, I actually own the game and have played it - unlike, I would surmise, the majority of people saying its a shit game based on Jeff's or (God forbid) Mcelroy's review without having played it themselves.
This is a Demon's Souls situation. Initial impression by the GB crew is that it is shit so that gets repeated by everyone on the Whiskey sites (like Will Smith on the Tested podcast and Joey on TNT, neither have played the game but feel just fine bashing it). However (and not to compare Demon's Souls to Brink in terms of quality) it is entirely possible for a review or quick look to distort the basic conceits of a game, how it is played or meant to be, and focus far too heavily on minor negative aspects.
I don't disagree with the game getting 2 stars as a single player experience/offline bot game - shit, I would probably give it 1 star there. On the PC, with a group of real players (which is the only way I have played by and large) this is a solid albeit flawed team based shooter - worth at least a 3.5 given those specific circumstances (which most reviewers didn't wait for because there has to be a review on day one). So even the 80s on metacritic are BS, this whole thing is just kinda screwed really. "shrugs"
If he feels it's different enough to warrant it's own review, then yes.
People taking GB's review as gospel is far worse than Brink could ever be. Sounds like a borderline broken console version was released, but is not reflective of the experience on all versions necessarily. I see no point in a PC review though because this isn't a review site and completeness in reviewing is not a priority. If they didn't generate traffic I don't think they'd do them at all.
It would be nice if people read a little bit more critically before parroting the opinions of others.
" This game is getting more attention then it deserves. "I have to agree.
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I voted for NO.
I say no i don't see the point in it. Say what you will about jeff views on the game, but i don't see them changing much for the PC.
" No. Because when you get down to it: Who really cares anymore? Brink isn't worth it. The entire internet agrees.If you like it, good. But move on with your life already. "I wouldn't say that, it's actually had pretty decent reviews across the board.
" @Oginam Sorry, you lost me when you called this a Demons Souls situation.That game was genuinely good.Brink is just another FPS with some light objective modes that won't last more than a month.I cannot believe people are coming out of the woodwork to defend such a mediocre title. "How do you know it's good? How much time have you spent with the game? If the answer is, "I haven't actually played Brink but I" let me stop you right there. The only opinion you should have on the game is, "It doesn't look like it's for me so I didn't buy it.". If the answer is, "I've spent a couple of hours and I didn't like it" then you have a right to state your opinions.
I own it on the PC and I feel like I got ripped off. There's nowhere near 60 bucks of content and the game plays like crap. So, no, Jeff doesn't need to do a PC review.
They should go back and redo every review they've ever done! Honestly I'm enjoying Brink, Jeff didn't, who cares just play the game.
Brinkgate 2011 is at almost an 8.8 level of annoyance.
Seriously other then a mouse and keyboard and possible better graphic, how huge of a difference is there in the PC version then the console one? If you like Brink then what the fuck difference does it matter if Jeff Gertsman hates it ? Will the PC version change Jeff's opinion is such a dramatic matter that he will spend over 20 minutes on Bombcast apologizing for his mistake and offering Epic Mickeys to those he wronged with his 2 Star review of Brink?
Jeff hated Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions yet I disagreed but rather then bitch about it I thought maybe it isn't his cup of tea and went about my day.
I got the pc version, its alright, but I wouldn't ask for another review. Personally I like the game but I'm not gonna throw a shit fit cause GB didn't. And honestly I can't see there being much of a difference between the versions, if you like it you like it, if you don't then then you don't.
From the overview of Brink, we should just move on and seek to review new games.
Just because it is Bethesda doesn't mean the game is fantastic, sometimes a reputation like that can harm expectations as well.
I was let down expecting more from this game, such a sad string of events.
The PC version has it's own host of issues. Some ATI cards can't even run the game properly, there's some serious lag issues and some levels cut out sound completely. I don't think reviewing Brink on PC would make Jeff like the game anymore. After playing it for a bit on PC the shooting still feels kind of weak and unsatisfying. Yeah, the issues might not be as egregious but at the end of the day a lot of people still don't like how Brink plays, regardless of platform. Move on and stop complaining.
I guess I'm saying the "Brink is shit" talk is somewhat equivalent (or at least reminiscent for me) to the "Demon's Souls is too hard and thus shit" talk in terms of how quickly a game can acquire a reputation based on a few opinions that are then repeated by people who have not and will never play the game regardless.
No, most of the things Jeff takes issue with wouldn't really be lessened in the PC version.
I have thought from the start of playing this game that it must be abnormally difficult to play with a gamepad compared to other shooters because of how inaccurate the guns are, especially when moving, and yet how much you have to be constantly on the move. I also think the whole SMART movement wouldn't work as easily on a gamepad as it's more dependent on your turning ability than your lateral movement (i.e., you can't sprint diagonally, so you have to depend on your ability to aim wherever you want to [or don't want to] perform a maneuver, while also being able to quickly aim and shoot at an enemy immediately before or after). I think all shooters play leaps and bounds better with a mouse and keyboard regardless, but moreso than normal in Brink's case.
However, most of the things that put Jeff off of the game still exist on the PC, and I don't see his verdict being much different. He might find the gameplay a little smoother on the PC, but the framework that he criticized so much will have the same perceived flaws.
Furthermore, Jeff is a dedicated console gamer, so even if he were to play with a mouse and keyboard, he's wired to have a propensity at this point to move, behave, and think the way he would with the limitations of a gamepad (until he played enough to rewire his brain for the different control input, which he would never do), so I doubt it would give him a huge boost.
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