Bungie and Activision Announce ExclusiveWorldwide Publishing Deal

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#-49 Posted by Jimbo (9767 posts) -
@Hamz said:
"At least now we know who will likely be making the next COD game. "
Not Bungie.  Activision desperately need big new franchises, which is what Bungie will give them.  I imagine Treyarch and Zombinity Ward will continue to pump out the standard CoD games for a good while yet.
#-48 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -
@isnipeyoudie said:
" Dude, what? Does this mean Activision will be publishing Reach?  Hopefully Activision will have no influence on Bungie, but if what MattyFTM said is true, I suspect Bungie will be fine. "
MS owns the Halo franchise so this has nothing to do with Reach or any other Halo product. 
#-47 Posted by Metal_Mills (2980 posts) -
@crusnchill said:
" Does Bungie have issue with their sight?! Do they not see what is going on RIGHT now with Activision, Infinity Ward and Respawn Entertainment?  I'll take a wait and see stance to this I guess... "
Activision OWNS IW. This is just a partnership. Bungie still have total control of the studio and their IP's.
#-46 Posted by CitizenKane (10501 posts) -

They are not going to be owned by Activision and they will still own all of the IPs.  If Bungie doesn't like what Activision is doing down the road, they can afford to get out of the deal.

#-45 Posted by Hashbrowns (649 posts) -

Seriously, is Microsoft just sitting on their hands?  Bungie leaves Microsoft for more freedom, and then they sign a ten year publishing deal with Activision? 
#-44 Edited by PenguinDust (12436 posts) -

I am immediately reminded of Dr. Malcolm's warning at the start of Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World:

"[Joining Activision] is the worst idea in long sad history of bad ideas."

I have no idea what the hell they are thinking.  Sure, Activision has the clout and marketing machine to make sure their next games do well, but it comes at the price of their souls.  They left Microsoft because they wanted to have more freedom and after all that went down with Infinity Ward, they've lied down with lions and signed an exclusive deal with Activision for 10 years?  If history is any sign, little by little Activision will consume Bungie and break them down just as Activision does to everyone.  Even Blizzard is not above their tyranny and before this decade is over, Bungie will regret having made this deal.
#-43 Posted by TripMasterMunky (2403 posts) -

New Halo every year now.

#-42 Posted by ProfessorEss (7253 posts) -
@crusnchill said:
" Does Bungie have issue with their sight?! Do they not see what is going on RIGHT now with Activision, Infinity Ward and Respawn Entertainment? "
I don't think Bungie runs their company based on video game news blogs and internet rumors. I know this may be shocking, but Bungie's vision of the situation may actually be clearer than that of a rabid pack of uninformed, random internet users.
 
I could be wrong tho.
#-41 Posted by Icemael (6305 posts) -
@Hashbrowns said:
" Seriously, is Microsoft just sitting on their hands?  Bungie leaves Microsoft for more freedom, and then they sign a ten year publishing deal with Activision?  "
Microsoft owned Bungie. Activision are just going to publish their games. So yes, this is going to give them a hell of a lot more freedom.
#-40 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11413 posts) -

Why does this continue to seem like some horrible joke? Oh well, I guess I get to see them create and subsequently be forced to whore out their own IP instead of Halo, which will be whored out by Microsoft instead.

#-39 Posted by zudthespud (3281 posts) -

Sucks to be Bungie.

#-38 Edited by ProfessorEss (7253 posts) -
@Icemael said:

Activision are just going to publish their games. So yes, this is going to give them a hell of a lot more freedom. "

This really doesn't seem to getting through to people.
#-37 Posted by dvorak (1496 posts) -

While I'm 100% sure this is all legit, It does seem a lot like a perfect late Liar's Day "joke" doesn't it?

#-36 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -
@Hashbrowns said:
" Seriously, is Microsoft just sitting on their hands?  Bungie leaves Microsoft for more freedom, and then they sign a ten year publishing deal with Activision?  "
What ever game Bungie makes is still gonna be on the 360, so it's not like MS is doing anything wrong. 
#-35 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -
@zudthespud said:
" Sucks to be Bungie. "
Unless they are allergic to money, no, it doesn't suck to be Bungie.
#-34 Edited by ProfessorEss (7253 posts) -
@dvorak said:

" While I'm 100% sure this is all legit, It does seem a lot like a perfect late Liar's Day "joke" doesn't it? "

It really does - tho if it was it would be way too obvious. :P
#-33 Posted by Dad_Is_A_Zombie (1225 posts) -

I'll ask a noob question. What exactly is a publisher's responsibility? Does Activision actually back Bungie's new games with cash? Can they dictate release dates or influence content in any way? I know that Activision is unpopular but it seems to me Activision's role is basically to press disks and distribute the games. Specially to multiple platforms. Clearly they can't touch Halo so other than getting a piece of the action on Bungie's next big thing, what is the problem? Just asking.

#-32 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -
@TripMasterMunky said:
" New Halo every year now. "
The fact that Bungie don't actually own the Halo IP makes me think not.
#-31 Posted by TheBeast (1931 posts) -

Good move by both of them.  

  • Activision need new A+ IP's, which Bungie can no doubt provide (and have been longing to produce), while Bungie get free reign to produce their stuff independently.  
  • Bungie probably had so many bids from various big publishers that they could negotiate the contract whichever way they want - don't think Activision are going to force them to do their bidding, Bungie probably only went with them because they offered the biggest chunk of money for the best contract terms.
 
From the wording of the press release this doesn't seem like they're co-publishing (as with EA Partners) - this is a real publishing deal. Bungie makes good stuff, Activision makes a box for it and takes a load of money. 
 
I don't think they're going to have much to do with CoD/MW - Bungie have spent enough time being tied to a single franchise to know that they want to try something different. Sure, they might be roped in to advise some other studio on multiplayer, but Activision still have a chunk of Infinity Ward (anyone know how many of the multiplayer people are left?) - who have a track record for being some of the best multiplayer designers in the business.
#-30 Posted by CitizenKane (10501 posts) -
@TripMasterMunky said:
" New Halo every year now. "
Microsoft still owns Halo.
#-29 Edited by ProfessorEss (7253 posts) -
@Dad_Is_A_Zombie said:

" I'll ask a noob question. What exactly is a publisher's responsibility? Does Activision actually back Bungie's new games with cash? Can they dictate release dates or influence content in any way?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the details are all in the contract.

Since Bungie was rolling in there with a strong hand I would imagine that contract leaves them with a lot of freedom.
#-28 Posted by atomic_dumpling (2449 posts) -
@Dad_Is_A_Zombie said:
" I'll ask a noob question. What exactly is a publisher's responsibility? Does Activision actually back Bungie's new games with cash? Can they dictate release dates or influence content in any way?
As I understand it, publishers have full control over demos, betas, review copies, copy protection, ports to other systems, release dates and PR. They can also  "encourage" the developers to cut out stuff in order to sell it separately and/or force them to put out mediocre DLC after the release. 
 
Well, practically everything besides programming the game itself.
#-27 Posted by Hamz (6846 posts) -
@Dad_Is_A_Zombie: A publishers role is to handle everything not directly associated to actual game development. So handling the video game press, shipping discs and all that sort of corporate stuff involved with video games.
#-26 Posted by GamerGeek360 (1959 posts) -

Bungie is officially screwed.
 
"Hey I'm Activision, I like to take your games, publish them, and then fire you and keep all the money."

#-25 Posted by Kedi (101 posts) -

 Definitely surprising, just hope that Bungie won't get screwed over in this.

#-24 Posted by CitizenKane (10501 posts) -
@GamerGeek360 said:
" Bungie is officially screwed.  "Hey I'm Activision, I like to take your games, publish them, and then fire you and keep all the money." "
Activision does not own Bungie.  People need to stop thinking this is like Activision buying IW.
#-23 Posted by Atlas (2428 posts) -

Epic fail.

#-22 Posted by GamerGeek360 (1959 posts) -
@CitizenKane said:
" @GamerGeek360 said:
" Bungie is officially screwed.  "Hey I'm Activision, I like to take your games, publish them, and then fire you and keep all the money." "
Activision does not own Bungie.  People need to stop thinking this is like Activision buying IW. "
I know I just like hating on Activision. I still feel like Bungie is screwed on this though.
#-21 Edited by CitizenKane (10501 posts) -
@GamerGeek360 said:

" @CitizenKane said:

" @GamerGeek360 said:
" Bungie is officially screwed.  "Hey I'm Activision, I like to take your games, publish them, and then fire you and keep all the money." "
Activision does not own Bungie.  People need to stop thinking this is like Activision buying IW. "
I know I just like hating on Activision. I still feel like Bungie is screwed on this though. "
If down the road Bungie doesn't like what Activision is doing, they have the manpower and resources to back out of the deal.
#-20 Posted by Pie (7033 posts) -
@CitizenKane said:
" @GamerGeek360 said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" @GamerGeek360 said:
" Bungie is officially screwed.  "Hey I'm Activision, I like to take your games, publish them, and then fire you and keep all the money." "
Activision does not own Bungie.  People need to stop thinking this is like Activision buying IW. "
I know I just like hating on Activision. I still feel like Bungie is screwed on this though. "
If down the road Bungie does like what Activision is doing, they have the manpower and resources to back out of the deal. "
Do you mean "doesnt" like?
#-19 Posted by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCK! This is MENTAL!

#-18 Posted by TheBeast (1931 posts) -
@GamerGeek360: Bungie probably had countless offers from various publishers as soon as their MS contract ended. Do you really think Bungie would pick Activision considering the recent events if they could not significantly dictate the terms of this new contract?
#-17 Posted by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -

The reaction's a bit ridiculous folks. Bungie are still completely free to do as they wish. Activision will just be putting their games in box. This sounds like it's a good deal on Bungie's part to me. They even retain IP.

#-16 Posted by CitizenKane (10501 posts) -
@Pie said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" @GamerGeek360 said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" @GamerGeek360 said:
" Bungie is officially screwed.  "Hey I'm Activision, I like to take your games, publish them, and then fire you and keep all the money." "
Activision does not own Bungie.  People need to stop thinking this is like Activision buying IW. "
I know I just like hating on Activision. I still feel like Bungie is screwed on this though. "
If down the road Bungie does like what Activision is doing, they have the manpower and resources to back out of the deal. "
Do you mean "doesnt" like? "
Yeah, I just edited it.  :P
#-15 Posted by PhanThomas (90 posts) -
@Zereta said:
" From the Beginning, You know the End "
THAT is awesome indeed. ^^Applies so very well. Well done, my friend. ^^
#-14 Posted by AlwaysAngry (2924 posts) -

Yep, getting Red Dead Redemption for sure.

#-13 Posted by TheJollyRajah (1576 posts) -
@ColumnBreaker said:
" THE BEST PART OF WAKIN UP, IS BUNGIE DYING A HORRIBLE DEAAAAAAAAAAAAATHHHHHHHHHHHHH "
lol
#-12 Posted by MachoFantastico (4473 posts) -

Oh Bungie what are you doing, money talks I guess.  
 
Some reports have stated that this deal as been nine months in the making, so I do have to wonder what Bungie think of the whole Infinity Ward mess. To be honest I haven't had a whole lot of interest in Bungie games for many years now, but they seem like a good studio of talented folks and this sounds rather unlike them. But as I said, money talks. 

#-11 Posted by Pie (7033 posts) -
@CitizenKane: And I just got a quest done, he he he
#-10 Posted by Red12b (9073 posts) -
@CitizenKane said:
" @GamerGeek360 said:
" Bungie is officially screwed.  "Hey I'm Activision, I like to take your games, publish them, and then fire you and keep all the money." "
Activision does not own Bungie.  People need to stop thinking this is like Activision buying IW. "
Kids are just going to bitch about this and not look at the facts, or look at this objectively,  
Remember when EA was the big bad corporate?  
And now look at R* taking the old EA route of poor work conditions, It's a cycle,  
"Hey let's all hate on this guy!" 
 
Soon somebody else will fuck something up and it will be fashionable to hate on them, We can't stem the tide of hate,  
All we can do is just try and keep things civil eh? 
#-9 Posted by LtKetch (49 posts) -

Hard to say that I will now not buy anything from Bungie again, but this makes it really hard to support them. Sure they are a private company and I am sure that Activision offered them a great deal, but are they completely oblivious to the way Activision is viewed.  Talk about signing a deal with the Devil.
#-8 Edited by J0n3s1 (295 posts) -

Hey I have awesome idea! Bungie should make COD! IN SPACE!

#-7 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

FUCK THIS BULLSHIT!  
 
After SC2, I am not buying Blizzard stuff.  FUCK ACTIVISION!

#-6 Posted by Turbo_Toaster (954 posts) -

I'm confused. I thought Microsoft owned Bungie, they at least own Halo right?

#-5 Posted by adoggz (2034 posts) -

BREAKING NEWS. Bungie and Activision join forces to save me a bunch of money. more at 11.

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#-4 Posted by Icemael (6305 posts) -
@Turbo_Toaster said:
" I'm confused. I thought Microsoft owned Bungie, they at least own Halo right? "
Bungie left Microsoft back in 2007. Microsoft still owns Halo, though.
#-3 Posted by Wes899 (2106 posts) -
@get2sammyb said:
" The reaction's a bit ridiculous folks. Bungie are still completely free to do as they wish. Activision will just be putting their games in box. This sounds like it's a good deal on Bungie's part to me. They even retain IP. "
#-2 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

FUCK THIS SHIT!
 
I woke up today playing a few rounds of SC2 and lost all of them, which dropped me down to 5th rank in the Gold League...at first I thought it was due to the morning jitters and me not up to par, but now I realized it's all Activision's fault due to this news!
 
Internally I knew that something bad was going to happen, and now Blizzard will be forced to make games with Bungie (who MAKES FUCKING HALO AND I FUCKING HATE HALO)...OMG, SC2 mixed with Halo.
 
I think I'm going to cancel my preorder for the Collecter's SC2. 

#-1 Posted by Drace (164 posts) -

Say what...?

#0 Posted by Azteck (7450 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" FUCK THIS SHIT!  I woke up today playing a few rounds of SC2 and lost all of them, which dropped me down to 5th rank in the Gold League...at first I thought it was due to the morning jitters and me not up to par, but now I realized it's all Activision's fault due to this news!  Internally I knew that something bad was going to happen, and now Blizzard will be forced to make games with Bungie (who MAKES FUCKING HALO AND I FUCKING HATE HALO)...OMG, SC2 mixed with Halo.  I think I'm going to cancel my preorder for the Collecter's SC2.  "
I really do hope that this is irony.

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