We still have to remember that this is GOTY material

#1 Posted by Rothbart (328 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Having been released back in ye olden tymes of February, memory of this game isn't exactly fresh in our minds. Just a heads up that when game of the year category discussions start, we'll even have to consider the wonky but priceless gem that is Deadly Premonition. I can easily see it as a serious contender for best narrative, what do you think?

#2 Posted by Dtat (1615 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

I don't think so. Maybe it deserves some kind of "Best worst game of 2010" award.

#3 Posted by nintendoeats (5970 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

You know what? I would accept best narrative. Except that Mass Effect 2 and HEavy Rain came out this year and actually deserve that award.

So no, I would not accept it as a winner. I would accept it as a nominee.

#4 Posted by chrissedoff (1695 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

pretending deadly premonition was good stopped being funny this summer, guess you didn't know

#5 Posted by TheSeductiveMoose (3617 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@chrissedoff said:

" pretending deadly premonition was good stopped being funny this summer, guess you didn't know "

People have their own opininons you know.

#6 Posted by keyhunter (3207 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

It probably deserves the title of BEST BUDGET TITLE

#7 Posted by ArchScabby (5809 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

No it isn't.

#8 Posted by nintendoeats (5970 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@keyhunter: I don't believe that it was a budget title in Japan though, so that's not really fair...

#9 Posted by shivermetimbers (581 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

In 2005, it would definitely be worth something. In 2010, not so much.

#10 Posted by yinstarrunner (1025 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

If there was an award for "most heart", I think Deadly Premonition would totally be in the running.

#11 Posted by Cazamalos (971 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

i would nominate it for "nice try, keep trying" award, not a goty

#12 Posted by SkinnyBlue (320 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

I tried really, really hard to forget about Deadly Premonition after I played through it THREE TIMES....and I tried even harder to forget that I actually bought it. As much as I enjoyed the games narrative and quirky charm, it really sucked to actually play it.

#13 Posted by nintendoeats (5970 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@SkinnyBlue: Oh god did it suck to play it. I'll sometimes pick it up and try to progress a little further, then not even leave the room that I'm in because the controls graphics and game play are all garbage.

#14 Posted by foodmonster (25 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Just had a friend pick it up with no context to the internet sensation of Deadly Premonition. He was looking up survival horror for 360 on the internet and had a $20 amazon gift certificate burning a hole in his pocket combined with a lack games on his brand new 360 when he found this game. He absolutely loved it. Nothing to do with the ironic hipster thing people had going during the summer.

#15 Posted by LordAndrew (13817 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@nintendoeats said:

" @keyhunter: I don't believe that it was a budget title in Japan though, so that's not really fair... "

But if it is a budget title in the region the Game of the Year is being awarded in, surely it would count. We wouldn't exclude titles that were released in Japan the previous year, so why would a title be excluded from another category for a similar reason?

#16 Edited by nintendoeats (5970 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@LordAndrew said:

" @nintendoeats said:
" @keyhunter: I don't believe that it was a budget title in Japan though, so that's not really fair... "
But if it is a budget title in the region the Game of the Year is being awarded in, surely it would count. We wouldn't exclude titles that were released in Japan the previous year, so why would a title be excluded from another category for a similar reason? "

Because if a game was developed with the intent that it be sold for 60 dollars, that game will get a bigger budget than one intended for sale at 25 dollars (hypothetically, its questionable if this is the case with DP). It would therefore be unfair to compare a "true" 25 dollar game with one that was discounted.

EDIT: I should clarify that I completely see the argument from the other side, I'm simply making a point.

#17 Posted by SBYM (1219 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

No. Best music, though? Sure.

#18 Posted by Dalai (6209 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Does Giant Bomb have some kind of guilty pleasure award? Because Deadly Premonition would definitely win that.

#19 Posted by nintendoeats (5970 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@SBYM said:

" No. Best music, though? Sure. "

But worst audio mixing.

#20 Edited by LordAndrew (13817 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@nintendoeats: It depends on whether "budget" is considered to cover games sold at a lower price, or whether it covers games produced for less than usual. Since development costs can vary a lot more than video game selling prices and production budget may not even be known, I imagine it is the former category that's usually considered in a "best budget game" award. It's hard to imagine a full-price game being considered for best budget game, regardless of how much it cost to make. But if it is released at a budget price then it can be considered, regardless of its original price in some other region. We don't know how the developers thought it should sell for. It's probably not up to them to decide.

#21 Posted by Ignor (2372 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

The Surprisingly Competent Storytelling Award, A.K.A. the 'FK Award'.

#22 Posted by Hailinel (18109 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Deadly Premonition for GOTY? That's a stretch, but there are things that the game definitely nails despite the flaws in its gameplay.

@nintendoeats said:

" You know what? I would accept best narrative. Except that Mass Effect 2 and HEavy Rain came out this year and actually deserve that award. So no, I would not accept it as a winner. I would accept it as a nominee. "

I haven't played Mass Effect 2, but after watching the Endurance Run for Deadly Premonition and playing Heavy Rain, I have to say that I enjoyed Deadly Premonition's narrative more. Heavy Rain's narrative has some goofy flaws that threaten to take it down. Deadly Premonition's narrative can get batshit crazy at times, but the tone of the game is such that even when something bizarre happens, it never feels out of place.

#23 Posted by swamplord666 (1742 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Christ... It was fun to watch and see it get attention but in no way is it GOTY worthy!

#24 Posted by Fascism (144 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

i remember I made it a few minutes into one of the videos they had on this site, it turned out to be good?

#25 Posted by Kyreo (4594 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@Dtat said:

" I don't think so. "

#26 Posted by Gabriel (4035 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

I would accept it as best narrative.

#27 Posted by marrec (256 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

How about best Inner Monologue?

Really though, it's no contender for Game of the Year.

#28 Posted by Bloodgraiv3 (2679 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Its one of my favorite games of all time, but the actual game part of it is lacking.
So, goes to RDR for me.

#29 Posted by onarum (1805 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

No its not, the only reason most of us got a found feeling towards it is because we watched it being played by the awesome GB crew with all the craziness that those guys can unleash.

If I was to play this game on my own before having watched the ER I would have hated it, even though the story has it's charm the rest of it falls flat, it controls horribly(its one of those games where the challenge comes only from the horrid controls), looks like a early ps2 game, has some very dubious design choices in many occasions(wall ladies anyone?), so all in all it's nowhere near GOTY material, not even close.

#30 Posted by AgnosticJesus (366 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

The only award this piece of shit game is deserving of is the Tobias Bruckner award.

#31 Posted by owl_of_minerva (1455 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Best narrative, best direction, best setting, or best character (Francis York Morgan) for me. As for the game mechanics, they're not nearly as broken as people describe, although they are quite retro.

#32 Posted by Ignor (2372 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

The only people who take GotYs seriously are the game publishers.
It's a rather vague award and, all-in-all, a bit silly.

#33 Edited by SoldierG654342 (1366 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

I played and loved this game while on the front end of the hype snowball and I still wouldn't say that it's worthy of any official commendations. Personal ones, sure, but nothing from any organized media. Yeah, it's a charming peace of work and is the only game I've played this year that's left a real, lasting impression on me, but there is enough objectively wrong with this game to give it any type of award.

Deadly Premonition was luck. Swery got lucky in making a game that was so-bad-it-was-good. I don't think we should award that because it ultimately lowers the bar for games as a whole. Yes the story was great and yes the characters were beyond endearing, but you can't call something "Game of the Year" when the actual game part is not very good.

#34 Posted by Hailinel (18109 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@Ignor said:

" The only people who take GotYs seriously are the game publishers. It's a rather vague award and, all-in-all, a bit silly. "

Tell that to the fanboys that live and die by the Game of the Year awards.

#35 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@TheSeductiveMoose said:

" @chrissedoff said:
" pretending deadly premonition was good stopped being funny this summer, guess you didn't know "
People have their own opininons you know. "

He's covered wars, y'know.

Every time somebody ends a sentence with, "you know," somebody must storm in and say, "he's covered wars, y'know."

#36 Edited by jos4 (97 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@Hailinel said:

" Deadly Premonition for GOTY? That's a stretch, but there are things that the game definitely nails despite the flaws in its gameplay.

@nintendoeats said:
" You know what? I would accept best narrative. Except that Mass Effect 2 and HEavy Rain came out this year and actually deserve that award. So no, I would not accept it as a winner. I would accept it as a nominee. "
I haven't played Mass Effect 2, but after watching the Endurance Run for Deadly Premonition and playing Heavy Rain, I have to say that I enjoyed Deadly Premonition's narrative more. Heavy Rain's narrative has some goofy flaws that threaten to take it down. Deadly Premonition's narrative can get batshit crazy at times, but the tone of the game is such that even when something bizarre happens, it never feels out of place. "

TBO, I think that ME2's narrative is pretty poor, and falls way behind ME1's one.
It's totally centered in the characters, and their story isn't reallly deep at all. I'd say the game is incredibly cinematographic, but that's about it. Also, the main plot just sucks. There's little actual story development and it ends in a cheap cliiffhanger.

I really can't think in any game that has a better plot or characters than DP released in 2010.

#37 Posted by Yummylee (18154 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

It's least going to rank pretty high for my top 10 games for 2010 list.

#38 Posted by EVO (3509 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Starcraft II, Halo: Reach, Mass Effect 2, Red Dead Redemption, God of War III, Heavy Rain, Alan Wake... these are games that come to mind when I think of GOTY. Seeing Deadly Premonition even nominated alongside such games would just be wrong.

But hey, I haven't played it.

#39 Posted by griefersstolemykeyboard (359 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

It's better than alan wake and Heavy rain, but Mass Effect 2 and RDR are both superior.

#40 Posted by Onno10 (404 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

"Best coffee simulator with zombies" ?

#41 Posted by MikkaQ (9716 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

Guilty Pleasure Award, Best-Worst Game Award, whatever you feel like you need to give it. It's not a GOTY contender. Those would have to excel in probably every field, and DP doesn't have the gameplay to stand up to all those other games.

#42 Posted by Jayzilla (2388 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

actually, no it isn't.

#43 Posted by owl_of_minerva (1455 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

It's worth keeping in mind that GOTY awards typically don't just have a single competition for best game, but a multiplicity of categories. No one is asking that Deadly Premonition be hailed as the best game this year.

#44 Posted by Jack268 (3386 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

It's a shitty-ass game and the only thing going for it is the story, music and hilarious characters. But we have to remember it's GAME of the year, and the "game" part of DP is fucking terrible compared to other games released this year.

#45 Posted by Blair (2368 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

No it fucking isn't.

#46 Posted by owl_of_minerva (1455 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@Jack268: All of which are part of the game. Are cutscenes, characterisation, dialogue, and so on something that happens when you're not playing the game? In any case, if you accept what you're saying then the game could be nominated for writing. Done.
@Blair: @Jayzilla: Read the op, it helps. He says for best story not best game overall.

#47 Posted by Animasta (12768 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

it's barely a contender for best characters or best story, myself. Nier, Strange Journey, Resonance of Fate, Fallout New Vegas, Metro 2033.....

#48 Posted by neozeke (378 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

I could see it winning best story or characters. Nothing else though, as much as I loved DP, it was pretty shitty. But, I can't recall any characters as memorable as York or Zack from this year.

#49 Posted by Blair (2368 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@owl_of_minerva: I read the OP, thanks for coming out though. It's laughable that this is a serious topic.

#50 Posted by nick_verissimo (1321 posts) - 2 years, 6 months ago

@Ignor said:

" The only people who take GotYs seriously are the game publishers. It's a rather vague award and, all-in-all, a bit silly. "

I'd have to completely agree with you on that one. The awards given out at the end of the year do nothing for me but provide interesting podcasting material.

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Deadly Premonition is an open-world comedy-horror game following eccentric FBI Agent Francis York Morgan (and his imaginary friend, Zach) as he investigates a brutal murder in the small town of Greenvale.

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