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#1 Edited by themangalist (1735 posts) -

I tried. And I was able to avoid all spoilers for Bioshock until the day I would pick it back up again.

I played it in 2010. I played only up to the dentist level and I thought the gameplay was mediocre at best; no matter how much I wanted to explore the world and experience the twist, I just didn't find it fun enough to pull myself through. That was also partly because of my huge shooter fatigue I have that carried on until now and still going (I haven't even finished Syndicate, Singularity, and Black Ops 2). But I swore one day I would pick it back up to get to the famous plot twist. I deliberately avoided reading anything about Bioshock. (Also doing so for Infinite) Well, even meeting Andrew Ryan was enough a spoiler for me, which the scene of course showed up in many gaming's top 10 lists that I have read. I really wanted to experience it myself. I was able to keep that up for 2 years...

And then Brad just casually spout it out loud in this week's bombcast. It sounded really dumb without context, but still, that thought is going to be on my mind when I ever try to play Bioshock again. Even if the thing he was talking about clearly would lead to a spoiler, I really didn't expect he would say it. He did.

I just recently reinstalled Bioshock just so to go through it and play Infinite. Now I don't know how many more years would it take for me to want to pick Bioshock up again...

Before you go "Dude it's a 5 year old game...". Well I'm not blaming Brad, I love the man; it was just fate. IT WAS JUST FATE, BRAD!

#2 Posted by DrxLecter (122 posts) -

Dude it's a 5 year old game...

#3 Posted by Milkman (16798 posts) -

What Brad isn't the famous plot twist. Though it's kind of tough to believe that you've been able to avoid THE twist for this long.

#4 Edited by handlas (2682 posts) -

There was quite a lot of build up to the point where they basically talk about the ending. It was easy to see it coming unless you were half paying attention.

Speaking of which... Bioshock 1 and 2 (together) are 5 bucks on Gamefly. I bought it then realized I can't put them on Steam and have to use some Gamefly client to play them... that sucks.

#5 Edited by Aurelito (721 posts) -

Your punishment for thinking "the gameplay is mediocre" and not finishing it on time.

#6 Edited by themangalist (1735 posts) -

Dude it's a 5 year old game...

Well I'm not blaming Brad, I love the man; it was just fate. IT WAS JUST FATE, BRAD!

(note to self*: NEVER give readers any ideas for comments)

@milkman said:

What Brad said isn't the famous plot twist. Though it's kind of tough to believe that you've been able to avoid THE twist for this long.

Haha I'm still pretty proud that I was able to do that. Will probably have to start playing before a jerk shows up in the thread and actually spoils it for me.

@handlas said:

There was quite a lot of build up to the point where they basically talk about the ending. It was easy to see it coming unless you were half paying attention.

I was playing Terraria with friends... oh well

#7 Edited by DocHaus (1331 posts) -

Dude it's a 5 year old game...

#8 Posted by Morbid_Coffee (955 posts) -

Old ass game is old and spoilers are fair game.

#9 Posted by Chibithor (574 posts) -

I'm currently playing through it for the first time but I didn't really mind the spoilers. You (and I) can still experience it for yourself, the "oh shit wasn't expecting that" is hardly all there is to it.

#10 Posted by Vinny_Says (5709 posts) -

dude...it's a 5 year old game.

#11 Edited by Marcsman (3198 posts) -

Would you kindly remember it's a 5 year old game.

#12 Posted by MikkaQ (10288 posts) -

It's a 6 year old game, dude.

(See I mixed it up a little)

#13 Posted by EarlessShrimp (1639 posts) -

It's a video game, dude.

(I took it to the next step)

#14 Edited by mellotronrules (1192 posts) -

i don't mean to be snobby about it- but on a video game enthusiast website...one would think you'd have played one of the landmark releases of this (just about finished) gen. i mean, i suppose it's only 5 years. BUT FIVE YEARS. that's a whole hardware-life-cycle by traditional standards.

i mean, there are plenty of landmark games i've missed as well. but i'm not surprised when i'm aware of most of the major plot points by the time i get to them. can't fight osmosis forever.

#15 Posted by StudsMcKewl (70 posts) -

It's been so long I've actually forgotten what the twist even was.

#16 Posted by TheSouthernDandy (3872 posts) -

Dude...it's a 5 year old Brad. No wait I did that wrong.

#17 Edited by JasonR86 (9707 posts) -

@themangalist:

No excuse for you my friend. No excuse!

Also,

Rosebud is the sled.

Bruce Willis is dead at the beginning.

Anakin is Darth Vader.

Darth Vader is Luke and Leia's Father.

#18 Posted by leinad44 (514 posts) -

I'd say it's your own bloody fault, it's an old game now, plus you could tell Brad was winding up to bringing up the twist. It's probably the best twist of this generation, you can't really hold off bringing it up.

#19 Posted by MildMolasses (3221 posts) -

@mikkaq said:

It's a 6 year old game, dude.

(See I mixed it up a little)

Kudos for properly rounding

#20 Edited by BeachThunder (11942 posts) -

Spoiler: I'm actually wearing pants :o

#21 Posted by rebgav (1429 posts) -

Eh, if you choose not to play a game for half a decade after it was released then you've pretty much spoiled it for yourself.

I didn't play through Bioshock 1 or 2 until after I'd played Infinite. I was fully aware of the various plot twists in those games and it didn't really hurt the experience (the crappy combat in 1 and the shitty writing in 2 did more to shape my opinions.)

#22 Posted by MetalGearSunny (6992 posts) -

Bioshock's a good and important game and alI, but it's not that great of a twist.

#23 Posted by AlexanderSheen (5008 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

@themangalist:

No excuse for you my friend. No excuse!

Also,

Rosebud is the sled.

Bruce Willis is dead at the beginning.

Anakin is Darth Vader.

Darth Vader is Luke and Leia's Father.

Samus is a woman.

Bridget is a boy.

#24 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4973 posts) -

Spoiler: You are the Bioshock.

#25 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4351 posts) -

Fucking seriously?

#26 Edited by JasonR86 (9707 posts) -

@jasonr86 said:

@themangalist:

No excuse for you my friend. No excuse!

Also,

Rosebud is the sled.

Bruce Willis is dead at the beginning.

Anakin is Darth Vader.

Darth Vader is Luke and Leia's Father.

Samus is a woman.

Bridget is a boy.

Naoto is a woman.

People are being thrown in the TV by Adachi.

#27 Posted by handlas (2682 posts) -

And it's not always bad to play a game while knowing a twist. Bioshock Infinite for example... a lot of those voxphone recordings make little to no sense in the context you have while playing the game through the first time. But once you know the ending they have way more meaning and they feel worth listening to as opposed to feeling like I'm just picking these things up to get an achievement because I don't understand what they are saying right now.

#28 Posted by Pr1mus (3911 posts) -

I don't get it. You're making a thread to blame Brad but you're not blaming Brad?

#29 Edited by Reisz (1497 posts) -

I'm in the same boat, totally blacked out about Bioshock, except as soon as they started talking about the first one I just fast forwarded like 10 minutes of the cast. Trying to stay in the dark about stuff that is so popular for so long requires a lot of work, you gotta be on your toes man!

#30 Edited by BisonHero (6529 posts) -

@pr1mus said:

I don't get it. You're making a thread to blame Brad but you're not blaming Brad?

Who can stay mad at that cute little guy? Awwww, c'mere, little buddy!

*hugs*

#31 Posted by DocHaus (1331 posts) -
#32 Edited by themangalist (1735 posts) -

Spoiler: You are the Bioshock.

WHAT. Aww shit. Fuck you. Spoiling the whole franchise for me.

#33 Edited by ripelivejam (3967 posts) -

bioshock dies

... that's right, dies going to itchy and scratchy land :(

#34 Posted by Lashe (1251 posts) -

More like Bio.

Y'know. Without the Shock.

Oh, that door there? Okay, if you insist.

#35 Edited by myketuna (1697 posts) -

I have to join the chorus and tell you...

It's a five year old game.

#36 Posted by DocHaus (1331 posts) -

#37 Posted by Alexander (1721 posts) -

I get the impression some people in the thread think that once a game has been out for a while, anyone who has any business caring about the plot should have already played it. If you said the same thing about films you'd be called an idiot (more often). I think it's unreasonable to expect spoiler-free discussion on a game that's a few years old, especially when discussing a sequel. Then again it's good etiquette to let people know you are about to divulge potential spoilers, regardless of the length of time that has passed since release.

#38 Posted by Sergio (2127 posts) -

Eh... Brad spoiled BioShock for me too, but it's been out for a long time, so I don't mind. It was more annoying that Patrick wanted Jeff to spoil a game that was barely out. Might not be a great game, but still not cool to want to spoil a new game. Good on Jeff for refusing.

#39 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -

Guess what Aeris Dies in FF7. BOOM. Your world is shattered now. Also dude, its a 5 year old game.

#40 Posted by supermike6 (3564 posts) -

You are the Big Daddy!!!!!!!

#41 Edited by CatMeat (42 posts) -

What Brad "spoiled" on the bombcast wasn't the twist. He talked about some plot points that happen, but not the actual important part of the story.

#42 Edited by wrecks (2257 posts) -

#43 Edited by LordXavierBritish (6320 posts) -

Sheik is really Zelda.

#44 Posted by Jams (2961 posts) -

I never finished Bioshock because it's a shitty game in my opinion. I heard Brad's spoiler and I still don't know what happened at the end of Bioshock because it's a shit game.

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#45 Edited by Ramone (2966 posts) -

In the end it turns out Bioshock is just a parable for the Falklands War.

Spoilers

#46 Edited by spiceninja (3062 posts) -

These things happen when you don't play high profile story heavy games.

#47 Posted by EXTomar (4736 posts) -

Isn't this like someone priding themselves on avoiding what happened with the Titanic for almost 100 years until that god damn movie came along?

#48 Posted by RioStarwind (547 posts) -

I've taken the stance of pretty much not caring if I notice a spoiler for a video game. I'll still enjoy the game if it really is a good game even knowing something about the story.

#49 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1072 posts) -

@riostarwind said:

I've taken the stance of pretty much not caring if I notice a spoiler for a video game. I'll still enjoy the game if it really is a good game even knowing something about the story.

I pretty much agree with this 100%, although not knowing the twist does still make things a bit better.

#50 Edited by EXTomar (4736 posts) -

This thread topic is an example of people taking spoilers way to far. It is the very selfish idea that "no one can discuss a topic because *I* haven't done X yet" is absurd. Is the problem Brad mentioned something or the fact you still haven't played Bioshock yet after two years?