I don't know
I have friends who are tough guys, smoke a lot of weed, work out, have sex with girls and all that. They fucking love Mario Kart, Party, NSMB Wii, Fallout, Pokemon, etc...
Do You Get Annoyed When People Ask If A Game Is "Good"?
What bothers me more is when someone asks if one game is better than another, especially when they're incomparable. Even worse is when they actually buy games with that mindset and skip playing really awesome games because the handful of people they asked liked one game better than another. An example would be not playing Arkham Asylum because your friends either didn't play it or liked Mass Effect 2 more. FUCK.
" I saw a kid at GameStop asking if Halo 3 was good cause he was buying a 360 that day...I said no and he should get Rogue Warrior instead. ...is it bad I hate Halo games with so much passion? All becuase UT2k4 was outsold by that trashy game Halo 2 the same year. >.> "You told him not to pick up a mediocre game, but instead a laughably bad game...?
If a friend asks me for gaming advice, I usually ask them a few pointed questions to figure out what they want and I recommend a game based on that. I would never tell them to figure it out for themselves because gaming journalism is mad confusing to an outsider. It just makes more sense to ask someone directly and get personalized advice.
BTW you never recommend a game just because of one standout quality (like blood & gore). You're setting up yourself and the other person for some frustration. Take that Gears kid for example. Maybe he enjoys the cover-based shooting but doesn't know enough about games to figure that out for himself. Individual mechanics like that are core to people's enjoyment of a game but they aren't very easy to breakdown for people who don't play a lot.
" @KaosAngel said:I will never support a Halo game after what happened with UT2k4." I saw a kid at GameStop asking if Halo 3 was good cause he was buying a 360 that day...I said no and he should get Rogue Warrior instead. ...is it bad I hate Halo games with so much passion? All becuase UT2k4 was outsold by that trashy game Halo 2 the same year. >.> "You told him not to pick up a mediocre game, but instead a laughably bad game...? "
" @LiquidPrince said:I think the point isn't that you're sticking it to Halo, you're sticking it to the kid. You could have, maybe, you know, pointed him to a game that's worth a damn. Not toward some catastrophic piece of shit." @KaosAngel said:I will never support a Halo game after what happened with UT2k4. "" I saw a kid at GameStop asking if Halo 3 was good cause he was buying a 360 that day...I said no and he should get Rogue Warrior instead. ...is it bad I hate Halo games with so much passion? All becuase UT2k4 was outsold by that trashy game Halo 2 the same year. >.> "You told him not to pick up a mediocre game, but instead a laughably bad game...? "
Well this game sucks but the fun factor is through the roof.
I do hate it because I think alot of "crap" games are "good"
" @KaosAngel said:Let's be honest here, the Quick Look was hilarious! :D" @LiquidPrince said:I think the point isn't that you're sticking it to Halo, you're sticking it to the kid. You could have, maybe, you know, pointed him to a game that's worth a damn. Not toward some catastrophic piece of shit. "" @KaosAngel said:I will never support a Halo game after what happened with UT2k4. "" I saw a kid at GameStop asking if Halo 3 was good cause he was buying a 360 that day...I said no and he should get Rogue Warrior instead. ...is it bad I hate Halo games with so much passion? All becuase UT2k4 was outsold by that trashy game Halo 2 the same year. >.> "You told him not to pick up a mediocre game, but instead a laughably bad game...? "
Nope, of course personal tastes come into play but i can at least tell them if its a quality product for what it is. If someone asked me if Titanic was any good i'd say "yeah, if you're into romance type movies," its the same principle, people just want to know if its complete crap before they waste time and money on something.
What it comes down to is I'm willing to give my opinion on something, but I would rather that people used at least a small portion of their brains. Borderlands was a really difficult thing to deal with at our store. Lots of people play Call of Duty, but most don't play RPGs unless they are playing WoW or DDO on the computers, maybe Fallout 3 on the 360. Therefore, trying to explain to them "it's got the controls of Call of Duty, except it's an RPG like Diablo", they didn't understand it. When they got onto the game, it wasn't five minutes before they were back at the counter saying "hey, how do you play online". What they meant was "hey, how do we kill each other?". That's what they expected. I got them all into a co-op, and they only played for ten minutes before they wanted to change the game.
How am I supposed to answer a question like "is this game good?" when there is NO clear answer for that other than saying "well, it got high review scores and sold a bunch, so sure?". Even when I was a kid that age, I wasn't asking people "is that game good?".
Maybe it's a different frame of mind. I don't know.
@Sir_Ragnarok: They could've cut about 35-40 minutes out of that movie and it would've been WAAAAAAY better, but I appreciate Lee's approach to the material not being supremely macho. I also liked the casting a ton.
No. Some of my friends play lots of games but are not really into these kinds of sites. so when they ask me about some games i find it fun to tell them what they should be looking out for, because i know what kind of games they are into and that might save them a bunch of money.
No, I can't say that I can. Legitimately, someone asked for my opinion. In my strange and convoluted mindset, I am thereby obligated to provide my opinion. I am also a on-the-fly thinker, where I don't exactly think about what I'm going to say before it spills out of my mouth. In some cases, that's bound to offend people. I respect their views and want to validated said views, but I don't always do that.
Case in point: You've been talking about Borderlands quite a bit. If someone asked me if I thought Borderlands was good, it would be a "Yes, but..." type of response. On the whole, it was a good game. It effectively combined the astronomically popular first-person shooter mechanic with the Diablo-style loot frenzy that made it fun. It's innovative, quirky, and unique, which is why it falls into the "specific demographic" bin. That's obvious, right? However, because it is those three things, you'd have to cautiously recommend it. If someone was looking for CoD-esque shooting, Gears-based cover mechanics and realism, or something along those lines, you could provide them with their request, so long as you were at a combat section. Shortly afterward however, there's "nothing left to do." There is no guiding light that directs them onward to the next fight area. No, Borderlands is a specific game that was designed to pander to such demographic that had experience in sandbox games, shooters, and RPGs.
But that doesn't solve the problem, does it? No two games are alike. Even at the height of the WWII-shooter genre, each individual game brought something different, something unique to the table. While the core mechanics of the game hadn't necessarily changed, there was something different about each game.
Basically, whether or not a game is "good" depends on the context. I don't particularly care for MW2, because of the mediocre story and the rehashed multiplayer. I am thoroughly enjoying a game such as Infinite Undiscovery because while it's like an action RPG (not really, but kinda), it still manages to pull off the good story. Many people would disagree with me, thus illustrating the flawed concept of "good."
As for the response to the question, "Is this game good?" tell them a complaint and a good point you noticed with the game, then let them try it out for themselves. You're not explicitly stating whether or not it's good, nor are you giving enough of your own opinion to influence the kid's.
" it can be really annoying, sometimes i will explain what a games is and ask if they like that kind of game, other times i just say yes. "Same here, but I write for the locale magazine here and some people recognize me from it...then I have have to give an in-person review if I've played the game. Some time everything goes well and they thank me....other times, I run into fan-boys and message board idiots.....You don't wanna meet them in person.
I actually have a default response to this according the to situation:
If I did like [Game] and most think its good: Its great if you like [genre] you should love it.
If I did not like [Game] but most think its good: I personally did not enjoy it but if you like [genre] you could have fun with it.
If I did like [Game] but most think it sucks: I Personally loved it but it may not be your cup of tea, if you Really Really like [genre] try it
If I did not like [Game] and most think it sucks: I whisper "Rogue Warrior" in their ear.
sometimes it annoys me. when i suggest a game they will think that it is a bad game. it gets weird saying yes i think it is a good game but they don't. sometimes my friend is like hey i want to borrow a 360 game and look at my games and can't find any because he thinks that they are all crap. i have like AAA games (around 8 ratting).
Often, I haven't played the game they're asking about, but I tend to tell them "Other people seem to like it, so maybe you will too."
To me it depends on who is asking the question. If I'm answering to someone who I know is very familiar with the world of video games and who I trust to understand the concept of differing opinions then I'll give them a yes or no based on how I feel about the game and perhaps explain a little more why I do or do not like the game. If it's someone who knows absolutely nothing about video games and I know is just trying to ask out of interest or to make conversation then I'll usually give them a fairly simple response about how much I liked the game.
The only real problem I have with this question is the awkward middle-ground where I'm asked this question by the kind of person who only plays games for the "macho factor" or because all their male friends do. Granted this situation has been pretty rare but when it has arisen I've felt my heart sink a little, not only because in these situations it doesn't seem like the person asking the question will understand that opinions can differ over a video game but also because I don't think they could understand why I think a game is good when they mainly play games because they are popular or are heavily violent. How do you explain the genius gameplay and clever take on Mario a game like Briad presents to a person who you don't think would understand why you'd play a game with bright colours and no violence?
No I don't because I say I think things are shit all the time. However, I am saying the wrong words. Instead of saying a game is "shit" I should say I don't like it.
" I saw a kid at GameStop asking if Halo 3 was good cause he was buying a 360 that day...I said no and he should get Rogue Warrior instead. ...is it bad I hate Halo games with so much passion? All becuase UT2k4 was outsold by that trashy game Halo 2 the same year. >.> "So instead of him playing an actually good game you redirected him to a piece of shit because you're pissy about halo 2 outselling ut2k4? Yea i would say there's a lot wrong with you because of that.
Absolutely not. If you love simple modern online competitive first person shooters, I will recommend Modern Warfare 2, even though I despise it. But if I'm passionate about one game over another, I will definitely let them know. In the MW2 scenario, I would conditionally recommend Battlefield: Bad Company 2, a game I prefer considerably. My opinion doesn't overlap with everyone elses. I think Virtua Fighter 5 is the best current gen fighting game, but I'm not going to recommend it to someone with only a basic interest or understanding of fighting games, instead I recommend Street Fighter IV or Tekken 6, because those games are more accessible easier to pick up and play. I have the time to spend 50 hours immersing myself in Dragon Age: Origins. Others don't, so to them I recommend Mass Effect 2, even though in my mind Dragon Age is a better game. It's all conditional.
When discussing whether a game is good or not, you need to take three things into account:
- How you feel about it
- How other gamers feel about it
- How the critics feel about it
Haha, I mean really, how hard is it to say "sure, I liked it" or "not really, wasn't my kind of game" or even "sorry, don't know".
If people totally want to nerd out and go into specifics, that's totally up to the question that was being asked or your own response. But by no means should anyone get annoyed and act like a total prick.
not really,but its annoying when somebody thinks its stupid to like a certain game i like when they never even played it!....GOD I HATE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really ought to have entitled this thread "Do you get annoyed when you're forced to interact with people you can't stand". I think working in that job has colored your impressions of normal human discourse in a bad way. In general, if someone asks if something "is good or bad", that isn't an unreasonable request. It's a vague lithmus test sort of question and it's generally understood that different people have different opinions and it should be taken as such. But being patently annoyed when someone asks your opinion that way is... I'm afraid.. snobbery.
Considering what you do for a living, what you need is some kinda of pat response to these kids that is general enough that they might understand it but doesn't implicate you, since it sounds like you're mostly worried about being personally held to their superficial standards. "Most people like it. It's kinda like X." Keep it short and impersonal. Maybe add "I enjoyed it" if you want. Those are all reasonable response to the question.
The problem you're having is that the kids aren't worth spending the time on them and don't really know how to act, I think you have to find some way to cope with that problem, because it's embittering you in a bad way to a very reasonable kind of question
"I totally see what you're talking about and agree completely. That question is the worst, second only to "What's that game about?". "
Why is it so bad? It's an honest question from an uninformed person, as honest as it is to ask if a game is good or not. You really expect some soccer-mom to know 100% about a game when she's clearly just asking what a game is about so she can make an informed purchase for her kids? That's obviously a stereo-typical situation, but in any case, there's no need to be a cynical elitist dork.
I don't get annoyed, Now to get off topic, I remember this kid I don't remember his age but younger then me (17 at the time) And he was saying to his friends how Assassins Creed is one of the best games he's ever played and was trying to get one of his friends to buy this game. My dad was with me and asked why I didn't have that game (I was getting STALKER:Clear Sky) My response was: I didn't like the controls and while the graphics were indeed very good, The game its self felt like a tech demo, Like a- Look what we can do with graphics and animations. The Game Stop counter guy agreed with me. The kid didn't like that and continued to persuade his friend, I don't know if his friend got the game or not but eh, I don't mind giving my opinions on games. I mean if someone asks me HEY IS (STALKER ANY GOOD) I'll answer with Yes I do enjoy the game, But the game may not be for everyone, It's kind of slow at first and the learning curve is pretty steep for a FPS bla bla bla....I know too long.
" I hear this question on a daily basis: "Hey, is that game any good?" Most people may not know me very well, but some might - I'm a G-A-M-E-R. I play all kinds of games, many games which the average person asking me that question have probably never heard of. People always seem to find it rude when I tell them, "my definition of good and your definition of good are totally different". I don't think that's a rude statement at all, as I also follow it with this statement: "Ever heard of Katamari Damacy? No? I love that game. You roll a ball around and pick stuff up. That's it." They think I'm joking when I say this, but I'm not. In my line of work, you see tons of kids on a regular basis that think the idea of a "good" game is blood, guts, gore, violence, guns, shooting, death, murder, maiming, dismemberment...and don't get me wrong - I love that stuff. I adore that stuff. However, it is NOT what makes a good game. There is so much more, and people are so unwilling to warp their senses just a tad bit and give in to F-U-N. Instead, they want something that cusses seven hundred times in a minute and acts macho. ...and when they ask me "is that game any good?", that's basically what they are asking...or so I assume. So does it annoy anyone else when that question is asked of them, or is it seriously just me? Give us some of your experiences. I'm really curious to see how often this question comes up and what the typical replies are to it. "I agree with almost alll that you said here dude well done. But to be honest it doesn't bother me at all when someone ask if a game is good. I have picked up on Mass Effect cause of this website and asking if I should play the game. So in that sense I thinking asking if a game is good or not isn't that much of a bad thing! But alot of people take out the F-U-N factor out of a game for no reason. I also think the games don't have to be either ultra realistic or violent to be a great game. I can play games that don't look like a picture and have more fun then I ever did. So in my opion people should ask but also realize you are right it is only a single persons opion on weither a game is good or not!
This thread is the sum of my experiences on game forums.
I hate that question. A good game differs from person to person. Gametrailers gives Killer7 a 6.1 out of 10. I'd rate it a 10 out of 10. Numerous websites rate Phantasy Star Online 9 or 10 out of 10. I'd rate it a 1. The conclusion here is that I have very different tastes.
What constitutes a game as good is subjective and debatable. For me, I either want an engaging story (like Mass Effect), breath-stopping atmosphere (like Resident Evil) or a game that has a huge amount of strategy (Halo Wars). But then I like Call of Duty 4... well maybe because I'm so damn good at it.
The point here is that people need to play games and decide FOR THEMSELVES what is a good game or not. They need to look at games and find out what about the game that they truly desire. It makes me sad when people see poor reviews for a game they like and they suddenly start shouting that it's biased. Well no kidding sherlock, an opinion is bias. I don't even agree with the whole rating system here or anywhere. A 4 versus a 3 out of 5? Or Gamespot: what makes this 9.1 game worse than a 9.3 game?
The only relevant rankings I would have would be an "audience" rating. Here there's a thumbs up/down system where people can click on and it measures percentages of each. Like it or don't. Simple.
So my message to those posters: Stop being told what you like and figure it out for yourselves.
" @KaosAngel said:Watch your fucking langfuckage!Fuck, did he fucking buy Rogue fucking Warrior? If he fucking did, fuck that's fucking cruel, man. 60 fucking bucks down the fucking drain. "" I saw a kid at GameStop asking if Halo 3 was good cause he was buying a 360 that day...I said no and he should get Rogue Warrior instead. ...is it bad I hate Halo games with so much passion? All becuase UT2k4 was outsold by that trashy game Halo 2 the same year. >.> "
Not at all. It's a bit perplexing when I hardly know the person and they ask me if I thought a game (or movie) was good. In those cases, I just respond something along the lines of "Well, I enjoyed it" or "I wouldn't recommend it". Now, if it's a friend who's opinions and tastes in such things I know pretty well or their tastes and mine are similar, I can go much more in-depth, relating things that are similar to other games I know they have played and liked or disliked and giving them an idea what they are in for.
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