Fallout 3 Review - "Oblivion with guns"

http://fallout3.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/fallout-3-review-from-sweden/#more-2851

It's a short summery, so I would recommend reading it.

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This honestly, is what I totally expected from this game. Just by reading the review, even if the editor didn't call "Oblivion with guns", I could have drawn that conclusion myself, seeing as this game has the same problems as Oblivion. I wasn't going to get this, but I'm a gamer, and I've gotten games before that I had a gut feeling were gonna be shit. However, I simply cannot subject myself to the torture that is playing another Bethesda game; which leads the to point of, thank you Bethesda for destroying one of my favorite franchises with your terrible design philosophy.

I would have much rather wanted the Fallout franchise to remain dead, then to have to see be spit on like this.

That's funny. I read another review completely debunking the "Oblivion with guns" theory.

It's not very well written, so I pass judgment to me.

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It's not very well written, so I pass judgment to me.

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I read another translation that basically said the guy was saying "the game's only limitations are the ones placed by its prequels" as if the review were somehow supposed to judge whether or not it was a successful sequel and not just a good game. Whoever wrote that shit needs to go back to internship and learn exactly what it means to review a game. Seriously. I don't know if it's rough Swedish/English, but he just sounds kind of retarded.

Oblivion with guns sounds okay to me, considering that Oblivion is one of the greatest RPGs of all-time.

Yeah...go ahead.

"Claude said:

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It's not very well written, so I pass judgment to me.

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Did you even read it? Good God."

Also, by the way, the Wordpress blog has a link to another review that is actually in comprehensible English and makes valid criticisms and points. You should all check that out too.

Wait until reviews are at all the big sites, not just a PC mag from Sweden. Of course immediately its going to have a similar ''Oblivion with guns" look, almost immediately by looking at it and it being an RPG. It still is one of the best looking games coming out this year, and one of 4 I'm only interested in.

"elbow said:

"Claude said:

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It's not very well written, so I pass judgment to me.

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Did you even read it? Good God."

“I manage to “aquire” a house that I decoratedin pre-war style, and my very own robot-butler, Wadsworth, that always greets me with a delighted cry and calls me madame.

Yeah, I read it, nice sentence."

"Wait until reviews are at all the big sites, not just a PC mag from Sweden."

Cool, Oblivion with guns, just what i wanted.

I mean seriously wtf did you expect it would be?

People who haven't played the game slam review that doesn't groove with their preconceptions. More at 11.

"People who haven't played the game slam review that doesn't groove with their preconceptions. More at 11."

"Claude said:

"elbow said:

"Claude said:

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It's not very well written, so I pass judgment to me.

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Did you even read it? Good God."

“I manage to “aquire” a house that I decoratedin pre-war style, and my very own robot-butler, Wadsworth, that always greets me with a delighted cry and calls me madame.

Yeah, I read it, nice sentence."

its a poorly translated review, that doesnt mean its poorly written. theres some points you could pick up on, like how he says eventually the whole world seems crammed. 

i absolutely still believe its oblivion with guns and thats not a bad thing. so many people get all defensive. i aint buyin it anyway. im getting LBP and Resistance 2 and CODWaW thats enough games for me this year

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Wow just look at the review, in the beginning the reviewer is comparing it to the original fallouts that came out years ago..saying they miss random encounters and such...were in fucking 2008 and he wants random encounters to happen. Honestly this review has no credibility what so ever..if he wants that he can go play some JRPGs.

"Wow just look at the review, in the beginning the reviewer is comparing it to the original fallouts that came out years ago..saying they miss random encounters and such...were in fucking 2008 and he wants random encounters to happen. Honestly this review has no credibility what so ever..if he wants that he can go play some JRPGs."

I'm a Fallout fan. I'm however not someone who is asking for Fallout 3 to bring back random encounters and fucking turn based combat..people need to get out of the 90s and fucking learn that games have changed..times have changed and the games needed to evolve . The review has no credibility at all because of these stupid comparisons to wanting age old mechanics left in the game.

"pause422 said:

"Wow just look at the review, in the beginning the reviewer is comparing it to the original fallouts that came out years ago..saying they miss random encounters and such...were in fucking 2008 and he wants random encounters to happen. Honestly this review has no credibility what so ever..if he wants that he can go play some JRPGs."

He's a Fallout fan, maybe he wants what made a Fallout game good? Perhaps he wanted a game that was faithful to the two games that came before it? In case you haven't realized, RPG games have made ZERO ground in terms of progression since the days of Fallout 2. What Bethesda is doing here, is nothing new because just quickly glancing at this review, I can already pick off the same problems that Oblivion had.
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Honestly this thread just needs to be dismissed now. Bring up another Fallout 3 Review thread when all the sites/mags with people actual giving a eligible review that tells you some actual information instead of comparisons and whining that games have evolved basically as one of your complaints...besides that alone that review just has so many flaws in it.

Wait, so who reviewed it?

Exactly.

I think we can wait a little longer for a more informative review.

"I'm a Fallout fan. I'm however not someone who is asking for Fallout 3 to bring back random encounters and fucking turn based combat..people need to get out of the 90s and fucking learn that games have changed..times have changed and the games needed to evolve . The review has no credibility at all because of these stupid comparisons to wanting age old mechanics left in the game."

Actually no, not completely wrong. You and a certain very small minority may wish things stayed the same throughout, but they've already evolved from then, game devs know this, reviewers know this. If this wasn't true almost every RPG made recently would still have turn based combat and random encounters. Its like saying FPS games should of never evolved to a crosshair and full X and Y axis movement. I'm done posting in this thread, its pointless- the review isn't credible at all, and your statement shows you would actually take this review seriously.

Not my kind of game....

its not fallout 2 by any means, but maybe modders can do something with it, like do a total Fallout 2 conversion, id pay money for that

"Actually no, not completely wrong. You and a certain very small minority may wish things stayed the same throughout, but they've already evolved from then, game devs know this, reviewers know this. If this wasn't true almost every RPG made recently would still have turn based combat and random encounters. Its like saying FPS games should of never evolved to a crosshair and full X and Y axis movement. I'm done posting in this thread, its pointless- the review isn't credible at all, and your statement shows you would actually take this review seriously."

So you're going to trust some obscure Swedish game review for your conclusion about a game? You realize that the game isn't coming out for another three weeks right? Where the hell did these people get a final copy of Fallout 3? I think the haters are just desperate for anything to back-up their points.

I hate it when people jump the judgment gun like this. Perhaps we can wait for the more trustworthy and reputable reviews to come out before we jump to conclusions? Better yet, we can play the game when it comes out and reach our own conclusions about it.

 Where the hell did these people get a final copy of Fallout 3?

You could actually play it. You know. Play the game. At the end, only you can derive your opinion for the game. But why the hell would you do that when a Swedish review gives you an opinion already. That's what the news does for the majority of Americans anyways.

Putting a live grenade on a guy makes me want to buy it..and the VATS system, it just looks like a great game in general, maybe it won't be considered the best sequel but overall it'll probably get somewhere in the 80-99% 

"I'm a Fallout fan. I'm however not someone who is asking for Fallout 3 to bring back random encounters and fucking turn based combat..people need to get out of the 90s and fucking learn that games have changed..times have changed and the games needed to evolve . The review has no credibility at all because of these stupid comparisons to wanting age old mechanics left in the game."

Just more people whining about Fallout 3 not being archaic enough.

Which is stupid

Just more people whining about Fallout 3 not being archaic enough.

Which is stupid

you say that like its a bad thing

"You could actually play it. You know. Play the game. At the end, only you can derive your opinion for the game. But why the hell would you do that when a Swedish review gives you an opinion already. That's what the news does for the majority of Americans anyways.
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"pause422 said:

"I'm a Fallout fan. I'm however not someone who is asking for Fallout 3 to bring back random encounters and fucking turn based combat..people need to get out of the 90s and fucking learn that games have changed..times have changed and the games needed to evolve . The review has no credibility at all because of these stupid comparisons to wanting age old mechanics left in the game."

Chess is for geezers, it doesn't require skill anymore. Chessboxing is where its at. People should evolve with the times because things that used to be fun can no longer be fun. Its impossible.
Oh wait, no. That's completely wrong. Thanks for playing, though."

"Bulldog19892 said:

 Where the hell did these people get a final copy of Fallout 3?

That's a pretty good question."

Sorry, to whomever wrote that, but the review sucked.

"pause422 said:

"Actually no, not completely wrong. You and a certain very small minority may wish things stayed the same throughout, but they've already evolved from then, game devs know this, reviewers know this. If this wasn't true almost every RPG made recently would still have turn based combat and random encounters. Its like saying FPS games should of never evolved to a crosshair and full X and Y axis movement. I'm done posting in this thread, its pointless- the review isn't credible at all, and your statement shows you would actually take this review seriously."

You call adapting the Elder's Scrolls ruleset evolution? Cus its been around longer than turn based combat, hero.
You need to learn the difference between stepping forward and stepping to the side. Building on the franchise's foundation to make it fresh is moving forward. Doing something completely unlike the previous games is a sidestep. Replacing one archaic battle system related to the franchise with another archaic battle system takes a step back, and to the side."

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Swedish TO English, done quickly by someone, are to expect near perfection?

Whatever the case might be, I'll take the message that the reviewer is trying to bring across rather than raise my arms in the air screaming how poorly it was translated.

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Even if it was "Oblivion with guns", it would still justify a purchase from me. Oblivion was awesome, according to me and Metacritic.

"elbow said:

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Swedish TO English, done quickly by someone, are to expect near perfection?

Whatever the case might be, I'll take the message that the reviewer is trying to bring across rather than raise my arms in the air screaming how poorly it was translated.

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I'm just amused by how quickly you've closed your mind to the game.  Fucking play it, man, then decide whether it is up your alley.  Cementing your opinion with a badly-translated review a good while before the game is released is pretty ludicrous. "

Wrong. Oblivion was already Oblivion with guns. Fallout 3 is merely Stalker with guns.

"Wrong. Oblivion was already Oblivion with guns. Fallout 3 is merely Stalker with guns."

"Wrong. Oblivion was already Oblivion with guns. Fallout 3 is merely Stalker with guns."

I kind of expected that, but I don't mind because ultimatley that's what I really wanted. Everyone @ some point has thought. "Wouldn't Oblivion with guns be awesome!"
...BOOM!
Prayers answered.

"Wrong. Oblivion was already Oblivion with guns. Fallout 3 is merely Stalker with guns."

Since when did printed gaming magazines get reviews up before the internets?