So I've got a fever and the only cure is more RPG.
I have an Xbox 360 and a PS3.
RPG's I've played/own that have come out somewhat recentish...
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Mass Effect
Persona 4
Fable II
Lost Odyssey
Eternal Sonata
Tales of Vesperia
Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core
Star Ocean: A New Hope (name?)
I'm sure Fallout 3 will be brought up, but that's 60 bucks (ofc I have to get the GotY edition).
So what should I get next? Valkyria Chronicles? Fallout 3? What do you guys think?
Edit: Persona games can be hard to find around where I live, I had to get P4 off eBay, in case P3 is brought up.
Getting the RPG bug...
Fallout 3 GOTY edition is a very good game but if you don't want to pay the 60 bucks, you might consider trying Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion GOTY. I think you can get that for about 30 bucks or so. Or you can wait and pick up Borderlands. While its not a direct RPG, it looks like it has enough RPG elements to appeal to the RPG crowd
I beg of you sir...please buy Oblivion GOTY Edition. It is a game that will change the way you live your life and give you a fresh appreciation for the little things that you never took time to appreciate. It is a masterpiece
I heard that on Star Ocean: The New Hope they butchered one of my favorite characters in general(Welch). Which leaded me to not buying a 360. D;
Anyway, I suggest getting Star Ocean: 'Till the End of Time and the PSP ones if you own a PSP. Also Disgaea if you enjoy strategy. Yes, I know I'm not suggesting any games that are newish.
Oh, Persona 3
Problem is that there are so many JRPGs and so few RPGs. This is even more the case on consoles. And I'm tired of everything being called an RPG just because you get to make a choice once or twice in the game and/or you have some vague "stat". When I think "RPG", I think of something with some considerable length and depth. And, again, the fucking JRPGs. Look, I own some, too. They can be fun. But god damn, I wish the ratio wasn't something like 20 JRPGs to each RPG. Or worse, maybe 50 JRPGs to each "classic" (think D&Dish-ish-ish) RPG.
Not to mention, a lot of JRPGs are up to like "part 82" by now and and unless you started playing it when the first chapter came out on the Magnavox Odyssey in 1978, you're only going to know part of the experience. Final Fantasy, for example. Why don't i play it? Because even if I could figure out what fucking order they're supposed to be played in and which are part of the story and which are just off-shoot randomness, I could probably never acquire them and the systems and then play through. And while I'm sure some may enjoy it, I just don't want to pick up the story 27 episodes in.
" I beg of you sir...please buy Oblivion GOTY Edition. It is a game that will change the way you live your life and give you a fresh appreciation for the little things that you never took time to appreciate. It is a masterpiece "
Dude...I agree with you on this topic but WTF is up with this: http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/i69edurgpa/oblivion-appreciation-blog/30-33008/
Oblivion is a RPG not a porno......all I have to say is WTF
It's all about how you look at the game. I find it hurtful that you would publically call me out and judge me on my personal sexual urges....
Please explain to me why when you stare into Jauffre's eyes you can slowly feel your under garments dampening." @i69edUrGpa said:
" I beg of you sir...please buy Oblivion GOTY Edition. It is a game that will change the way you live your life and give you a fresh appreciation for the little things that you never took time to appreciate. It is a masterpiece "
Dude...I agree with you on this topic but WTF is up with this: http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/i69edurgpa/oblivion-appreciation-blog/30-33008/
Oblivion is a RPG not a porno......all I have to say is WTF
"
" Borderlands is the most immediate cure. Valkyria Chronicles is excellent if you can find it. And if you're feeling adventurous into Tactical RPGs, go for the Disgaea series. "Borderlands is in my scopes, but I'm not sold yet. I'm sold on Valkyria already. Disgaea is a maybe for me. Once I get my GameFly account going again I'll check that one out.
@i69edUrGpa said:
" I beg of you sir...please buy Oblivion GOTY Edition. It is a game that will change the way you live your life and give you a fresh appreciation for the little things that you never took time to appreciate. It is a masterpiece "I have never before seen so much rampant love for Oblivion. I've been up and down with that game, but I have played it through, twice. It was just so old I didn't post it in that list. I guess I have to. It was good but I wouldn't call it everything you just said. This reply is more directed towards all the recommendation.
@RLLink said:
" I heard that on Star Ocean: The New Hope they butchered one of my favorite characters in general(Welch). Which leaded me to not buying a 360. D; Anyway, I suggest getting Star Ocean: 'Till the End of Time and the PSP ones if you own a PSP. Also Disgaea if you enjoy strategy. Yes, I know I'm not suggesting any games that are newish. Oh, Persona 3 "I tried Till the End of Time back when it was newish. I almost beat it, but never did. The New Hope I returned. I didn't get very far in that.
@Branthog said:
" Problem is that there are so many JRPGs and so few RPGs. This is even more the case on consoles. And I'm tired of everything being called an RPG just because you get to make a choice once or twice in the game and/or you have some vague "stat". When I think "RPG", I think of something with some considerable length and depth. And, again, the fucking JRPGs. Look, I own some, too. They can be fun. But god damn, I wish the ratio wasn't something like 20 JRPGs to each RPG. Or worse, maybe 50 JRPGs to each "classic" (think D&Dish-ish-ish) RPG. Not to mention, a lot of JRPGs are up to like "part 82" by now and and unless you started playing it when the first chapter came out on the Magnavox Odyssey in 1978, you're only going to know part of the experience. Final Fantasy, for example. Why don't i play it? Because even if I could figure out what fucking order they're supposed to be played in and which are part of the story and which are just off-shoot randomness, I could probably never acquire them and the systems and then play through. And while I'm sure some may enjoy it, I just don't want to pick up the story 27 episodes in. "
Oh man. Ok. We get it, you don't dig JRPG's very much, but you don't have to go so over the top with it.
Out of your whole post I gathered two points. You say you don't like games being referenced as RPG's when they clearly aren't (I agree with this). And you feel that too many JRPG's come out, and that there are too many iterations of each series.
That just seems like an awfully ignorant thing to say. Final Fantasy, which you used as your example, is on it's 13th major console release here in a bit. However, each game has a completely separate universe with no continuing story line between each. Same for the "Tales of" games. So please don't make such wild assumptions. Most new JRPG's can be experienced right out of the box.
It's a niche genre, get over it.
" @THE_END: It's all about how you look at the game. I find it hurtful that you would publically call me out and judge me on my personal sexual urges.... "
Dude......then why did you throw your personal sexual urges onto the internet if you don't want your sexual urges to be judged by others? That makes zero sense.
Actually, I enjoy many JRPGs. I am just put off by a lot -- not by convoluted story -- but convoluted ordering. And you know what? After all this time, I honestly had no idea that every Final Fantasy was an entirely separate story in an entirely separate existence. I'm actually uncertain if that's even true, since when I have heard people discuss it in the past, there seems to be some continuity of characters from one story to the next (or from some stories to the next, at least)." @newmarcom said:
Borderlands is in my scopes, but I'm not sold yet. I'm sold on Valkyria already. Disgaea is a maybe for me. Once I get my GameFly account going again I'll check that one out." Borderlands is the most immediate cure. Valkyria Chronicles is excellent if you can find it. And if you're feeling adventurous into Tactical RPGs, go for the Disgaea series. "
@i69edUrGpa said:I have never before seen so much rampant love for Oblivion. I've been up and down with that game, but I have played it through, twice. It was just so old I didn't post it in that list. I guess I have to. It was good but I wouldn't call it everything you just said. This reply is more directed towards all the recommendation." I beg of you sir...please buy Oblivion GOTY Edition. It is a game that will change the way you live your life and give you a fresh appreciation for the little things that you never took time to appreciate. It is a masterpiece "
@RLLink said:I tried Till the End of Time back when it was newish. I almost beat it, but never did. The New Hope I returned. I didn't get very far in that." I heard that on Star Ocean: The New Hope they butchered one of my favorite characters in general(Welch). Which leaded me to not buying a 360. D; Anyway, I suggest getting Star Ocean: 'Till the End of Time and the PSP ones if you own a PSP. Also Disgaea if you enjoy strategy. Yes, I know I'm not suggesting any games that are newish. Oh, Persona 3 "
@Branthog said:Oh man. Ok. We get it, you don't dig JRPG's very much, but you don't have to go so over the top with it. Out of your whole post I gathered two points. You say you don't like games being referenced as RPG's when they clearly aren't (I agree with this). And you feel that too many JRPG's come out, and that there are too many iterations of each series. That just seems like an awfully ignorant thing to say. Final Fantasy, which you used as your example, is on it's 13th major console release here in a bit. However, each game has a completely separate universe with no continuing story line between each. Same for the "Tales of" games. So please don't make such wild assumptions. Most new JRPG's can be experienced right out of the box. It's a niche genre, get over it. "" Problem is that there are so many JRPGs and so few RPGs. This is even more the case on consoles. And I'm tired of everything being called an RPG just because you get to make a choice once or twice in the game and/or you have some vague "stat". When I think "RPG", I think of something with some considerable length and depth. And, again, the fucking JRPGs. Look, I own some, too. They can be fun. But god damn, I wish the ratio wasn't something like 20 JRPGs to each RPG. Or worse, maybe 50 JRPGs to each "classic" (think D&Dish-ish-ish) RPG. Not to mention, a lot of JRPGs are up to like "part 82" by now and and unless you started playing it when the first chapter came out on the Magnavox Odyssey in 1978, you're only going to know part of the experience. Final Fantasy, for example. Why don't i play it? Because even if I could figure out what fucking order they're supposed to be played in and which are part of the story and which are just off-shoot randomness, I could probably never acquire them and the systems and then play through. And while I'm sure some may enjoy it, I just don't want to pick up the story 27 episodes in. "
No, my complaint isn't necessary about the JRPG genre as it is that there's a flood of it and a dirth of other RPGs. I really wish there was a healthy mix of both available. Especially on consoles (though I'll admit that a lot of the vintage RPG elements are just as played out as a lot of the JRPG ones, so it's not like they're somehow better than JRPGs).
However, you're right. I'll shut up now and stop having an opinion so you can have yours. Enjoy.
PS: If you can only pick one right now, I would probably pick up a used copy of Valkyria, if for no other reason than you can pick up Fallout 3 GOTY edition later on for a steep cut, too. Both are pretty fantastic and if there wasn't a difference in price, I'd probably go slightly more for Fallout 3 GOTY simply for the wealth of DLC included.
You should try out Magna Carta 2. I'm definitely getting it soon. Also, there's BORDERLANDS! Get it!
Blue Dragon is a really fun, old school game. Well, if you're not a total asshat critic and can take the light-hearted cuteness of the game.
Have you tried Too Human? Many people put this game down instantly because of the bad press it's gotten and because people were expecting something different. At it's core is a difficult dungeon crawling loot heavy RPG with a kick-ass Norse setting. The characters are amazing. Most people who say that "hate it" haven't given it a chance and just listen to what others say about it. I'd suggest you try it out. You can find it very cheap used. A very underrated game.
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom is also really good. It's kinda like Too Human but fantasy setting. The music is beautiful, you can equip ANY type of weapon in either hand (So, say a halberd in one and a crossbow in the other) and go around kicking ass. Another game you can find used cheap.
And there's Demon's Souls, too. Looks great.
Actually, I enjoy many JRPGs. I am just put off by a lot -- not by convoluted story -- but convoluted ordering. And you know what? After all this time, I honestly had no idea that every Final Fantasy was an entirely separate story in an entirely separate existence. I'm actually uncertain if that's even true, since when I have heard people discuss it in the past, there seems to be some continuity of characters from one story to the next (or from some stories to the next, at least).
No, my complaint isn't necessary about the JRPG genre as it is that there's a flood of it and a dirth of other RPGs. I really wish there was a healthy mix of both available. Especially on consoles (though I'll admit that a lot of the vintage RPG elements are just as played out as a lot of the JRPG ones, so it's not like they're somehow better than JRPGs). However, you're right. I'll shut up now and stop having an opinion so you can have yours. Enjoy. PS: If you can only pick one right now, I would probably pick up a used copy of Valkyria, if for no other reason than you can pick up Fallout 3 GOTY edition later on for a steep cut, too. Both are pretty fantastic and if there wasn't a difference in price, I'd probably go slightly more for Fallout 3 GOTY simply for the wealth of DLC included. "
Yup, all the major numbered ones at least. Some examples of continuations are the FFVII 'series' (FFVII, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core) as well as FFX leading to FFX-2. I'm not sure about spinoff series' such as the Tactics games and the Crystal Chronicle games however.
I suppose I do agree with you on the fact that there are a good number of JRPG's, however 20 to 1 is a bit over the top. Microsoft has gotten a lot of wierd quasi exclusive ones, but they're all "weird". I miss good ol' turn based combat. All these new JRPG's make me sad. I guess I tend to "forget" about games like that, since they don't fit my "view" of a JRPG.
I never meant to make a hostile attack on your opinion. I misinterpreted your original point, and was trying to make an argument against it, but I wasn't trying to shut down your opinion.
And yes, I have been leaning more towards Fallout 3. Even if it's 60. My original plan was to get Dead Space and Valkyria, but right now I'm really wanting some RPG action so I took that off my list for now.
" @Branthog said:Hmm, well if you think games like Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean are "weird", then Valkyria is even weirder. Have you played it?Yup, all the major numbered ones at least. Some examples of continuations are the FFVII 'series' (FFVII, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core) as well as FFX leading to FFX-2. I'm not sure about spinoff series' such as the Tactics games and the Crystal Chronicle games however. I suppose I do agree with you on the fact that there are a good number of JRPG's, however 20 to 1 is a bit over the top. Microsoft has gotten a lot of wierd quasi exclusive ones, but they're all "weird". I miss good ol' turn based combat. All these new JRPG's make me sad. I guess I tend to "forget" about games like that, since they don't fit my "view" of a JRPG. I never meant to make a hostile attack on your opinion. I misinterpreted your original point, and was trying to make an argument against it, but I wasn't trying to shut down your opinion. And yes, I have been leaning more towards Fallout 3. Even if it's 60. My original plan was to get Dead Space and Valkyria, but right now I'm really wanting some RPG action so I took that off my list for now. "Actually, I enjoy many JRPGs. I am just put off by a lot -- not by convoluted story -- but convoluted ordering. And you know what? After all this time, I honestly had no idea that every Final Fantasy was an entirely separate story in an entirely separate existence. I'm actually uncertain if that's even true, since when I have heard people discuss it in the past, there seems to be some continuity of characters from one story to the next (or from some stories to the next, at least).
No, my complaint isn't necessary about the JRPG genre as it is that there's a flood of it and a dirth of other RPGs. I really wish there was a healthy mix of both available. Especially on consoles (though I'll admit that a lot of the vintage RPG elements are just as played out as a lot of the JRPG ones, so it's not like they're somehow better than JRPGs). However, you're right. I'll shut up now and stop having an opinion so you can have yours. Enjoy. PS: If you can only pick one right now, I would probably pick up a used copy of Valkyria, if for no other reason than you can pick up Fallout 3 GOTY edition later on for a steep cut, too. Both are pretty fantastic and if there wasn't a difference in price, I'd probably go slightly more for Fallout 3 GOTY simply for the wealth of DLC included. "
@xyzygy said:
" You should try out Magna Carta 2. I'm definitely getting it soon. Also, there's BORDERLANDS! Get it! Blue Dragon is a really fun, old school game. Well, if you're not a total asshat critic and can take the light-hearted cuteness of the game. Have you tried Too Human? Many people put this game down instantly because of the bad press it's gotten and because people were expecting something different. At it's core is a difficult dungeon crawling loot heavy RPG with a kick-ass Norse setting. The characters are amazing. Most people who say that "hate it" haven't given it a chance and just listen to what others say about it. I'd suggest you try it out. You can find it very cheap used. A very underrated game. Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom is also really good. It's kinda like Too Human but fantasy setting. The music is beautiful, you can equip ANY type of weapon in either hand (So, say a halberd in one and a crossbow in the other) and go around kicking ass. Another game you can find used cheap. And there's Demon's Souls, too. Looks great. "Magna Carta, we'll see. I never played the original, would I need to?
Borderlands, as I mentioned, def on my radar. But it's still up in the air for me.
Blue Dragon... pass, for now at least. Although I love Sagaguchi. Nobu does the music in that too right?
Too Human... pass, I know someone who plans to buy it at some point, I'll just try his copy.
Kingdom Under Fire, well... if I saw it cheap enough I'd grab it just because I miss having a mindless hack'n slash sitting around.
Demon Souls is on my buy list.
" @Arc2010 said:I don't think of them as JRPG's they're part of that other category. I LOVED Vesperia and I've played the Valkyria demo (I'm a sucker for the old GBA Fire Emblem games)." @Branthog said:Hmm, well if you think games like Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean are "weird", then Valkyria is even weirder. Have you played it? "Yup, all the major numbered ones at least. Some examples of continuations are the FFVII 'series' (FFVII, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core) as well as FFX leading to FFX-2. I'm not sure about spinoff series' such as the Tactics games and the Crystal Chronicle games however. I suppose I do agree with you on the fact that there are a good number of JRPG's, however 20 to 1 is a bit over the top. Microsoft has gotten a lot of wierd quasi exclusive ones, but they're all "weird". I miss good ol' turn based combat. All these new JRPG's make me sad. I guess I tend to "forget" about games like that, since they don't fit my "view" of a JRPG. I never meant to make a hostile attack on your opinion. I misinterpreted your original point, and was trying to make an argument against it, but I wasn't trying to shut down your opinion. And yes, I have been leaning more towards Fallout 3. Even if it's 60. My original plan was to get Dead Space and Valkyria, but right now I'm really wanting some RPG action so I took that off my list for now. "Actually, I enjoy many JRPGs. I am just put off by a lot -- not by convoluted story -- but convoluted ordering. And you know what? After all this time, I honestly had no idea that every Final Fantasy was an entirely separate story in an entirely separate existence. I'm actually uncertain if that's even true, since when I have heard people discuss it in the past, there seems to be some continuity of characters from one story to the next (or from some stories to the next, at least).
No, my complaint isn't necessary about the JRPG genre as it is that there's a flood of it and a dirth of other RPGs. I really wish there was a healthy mix of both available. Especially on consoles (though I'll admit that a lot of the vintage RPG elements are just as played out as a lot of the JRPG ones, so it's not like they're somehow better than JRPGs). However, you're right. I'll shut up now and stop having an opinion so you can have yours. Enjoy. PS: If you can only pick one right now, I would probably pick up a used copy of Valkyria, if for no other reason than you can pick up Fallout 3 GOTY edition later on for a steep cut, too. Both are pretty fantastic and if there wasn't a difference in price, I'd probably go slightly more for Fallout 3 GOTY simply for the wealth of DLC included. "
If you're wondering what the "other" category is... it's the "other" JRPG category ok? Do not question how my mind works. For I do not know.
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