I still dont understand why...

So many people include multiplatform games in their exclusive list.  People put Splinter Cell, Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Left 4 Dead 2 all in their 360 exclusive lists and same with PS3 games such as DC universe online.
 
Look, if I can play any of the games above without owning a 360/PS3 THEY ARE NOT EXCLUSIVE.
 
How can people argue with that?

So people are confused regarding exclusives? Well, then it's our job to educate them without trolling. Aren't all those games you listed (aside DC Universe) 360 exclusive? You can make a valid argument that if a game is also on the PC, you can still say it's exclusive to X system. For example, most people consider Left 4 Dead 2 and exclusive even thought its also on the PC.

They mean console exclusive.

Because NO ONE cares about PC gaming anymore..... That's my theory anyway.

" They mean console exclusive. "

" Because NO ONE cares about PC gaming anymore..... That's my theory anyway. "

Exclusives are only a bad thing.

i don't think you can call them exclusives since they can be played on a PC, but i don't think it is really a point worth bringing up.

" So people are confused regarding exclusives? Well, then it's our job to educate them without trolling. Aren't all those games you listed (aside DC Universe) 360 exclusive? You can make a valid argument that if a game is also on the PC, you can still say it's exclusive to X system. For example, most people consider Left 4 Dead 2 and exclusive even thought its also on the PC. "

" @EpicSteve said:

" So people are confused regarding exclusives? Well, then it's our job to educate them without trolling. Aren't all those games you listed (aside DC Universe) 360 exclusive? You can make a valid argument that if a game is also on the PC, you can still say it's exclusive to X system. For example, most people consider Left 4 Dead 2 and exclusive even thought its also on the PC. "

So why dont people consider Batman Arkham Aslyum a PS3 exclusive even though its on 360? "

Although I completely agree with you, I also find disturbingly annoying whenever someone posts half a sentence as a topic title, that gives you no hint on what the thread might be about. 
 
i.e. "I still don't understand why..." 
 
Seriously. Why would you do that? Just let us know what the thread is about. The chances of attracting someone interested in the discussion are high, I guarantee you. 
 
That being said, yes, I completely agree with you. It's only an exclusive if you require said console to play it! 
 

• Exclusives: Heavy Rain, Crackdown. 

• Non-exclusives: Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction. 

" @EpicSteve said:

" So people are confused regarding exclusives? Well, then it's our job to educate them without trolling. Aren't all those games you listed (aside DC Universe) 360 exclusive? You can make a valid argument that if a game is also on the PC, you can still say it's exclusive to X system. For example, most people consider Left 4 Dead 2 and exclusive even thought its also on the PC. "

So why dont people consider Batman Arkham Aslyum a PS3 exclusive even though its on 360? "

" @Yukoei said:

" @EpicSteve said:

" So people are confused regarding exclusives? Well, then it's our job to educate them without trolling. Aren't all those games you listed (aside DC Universe) 360 exclusive? You can make a valid argument that if a game is also on the PC, you can still say it's exclusive to X system. For example, most people consider Left 4 Dead 2 and exclusive even thought its also on the PC. "

So why dont people consider Batman Arkham Aslyum a PS3 exclusive even though its on 360? "

You answered your own question. People typically mean console exclusive, unless otherwise specified. "

" Although I completely agree with you, I also find disturbingly annoying whenever someone posts half a sentence as a topic title, that gives you no hint on what the thread might be about. 
 
i.e. "I still don't understand why..." 
 
Seriously. Why would you do that? Just let us know what the thread is about. The chances of attracting someone interested in the discussion are high, I guarantee you. 
 
That being said, yes, I completely agree with you. It's only an exclusive if you require said console to play it! 
 

• Exclusives: Heavy Rain, Crackdown. 

 

• Non-exclusives: Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction. 

 Gee people, just because they were in the Microsoft E3 showcase that doesn't make them exclusives. L4D2 was there too, even Modern Warfare 2. "

" Because NO ONE cares about PC gaming anymore..... That's my theory anyway. "

Even if games appear on the PC, they should still be considered exclusives because they're still locked to the same console developer.  Splinter Cell and Mass Effect 2 are going out for the Microsoft Xbox 360 and Microsoft Windows platform.  They are Microsoft-exclusive; the games are not coming to consoles developed by Sony or Nintendo.

i don't see why you are getting so annoyed about the fact people are forgetting about PC as a gaming platform. when people talk about exclusives people tend to forget about PC because it doesn't compete in the same way the 3 console makers do. Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo battle over exclusives all the time where as developers make PC versions all the time so it is never considered in the argument

I still find it bull shit when they call Mass Effect 2 a Xbox 360 exclusive, when its also coming out for the PC.

Generally when people say exclusive when referring to a console game, they mean exclusive on consoles. It doesn't really bother me. I can see why people do it - If you don't have a decent PC, when your looking to buy a console, you look at what games you can buy on console X that isn't on console Y. Them being on PC makes absolutely no difference to your purchasing decision.

" @MALACHE said:

" Because NO ONE cares about PC gaming anymore..... That's my theory anyway. "

Ask Steam how much money they made with the sale then come back and tell me if no one cares. "

" Exclusives are only a bad thing. "

When most people argue the salient points of gaming, they usually don't include the PC.  And if you are a Mac user, things are rarely, if ever, mentioned.  So, when listing the games, they divide them between Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo.  I don't think there is anything wrong with that as long as they state that they are just talking consoles.  Most of the time people don't include handheld versions, too in their outlines.

Depends on the context.
 
"So many people include multiplatform games in their exclusive list."  I don't really know who or what you're referring to.

" They mean console exclusive. "

Rather than labelling games 'console exclusives', I look at it from a company standpoint. Anything that will only play on a PC and 360 is a 'Microsoft Exclusive' and vice versa for Sony and Nintendo with their respective consoles. It just makes a lot more sense to me than labelling them 'console exclusives' when they can be played on a PC.

" @Yukoei said:

" @MALACHE said:

" Because NO ONE cares about PC gaming anymore..... That's my theory anyway. "

Ask Steam how much money they made with the sale then come back and tell me if no one cares. "

Ask the Big 3 how much money they made on console sales then come back and tell me if no one cares. No wait, don't. I don't care. 
 
zing.   "

" @MALACHE: In the United States anyway. It's cause you guys are too lazy to upgrade your computers to state of the art technology. It's a bit more expensive, sure, but a keyboard and a mouse is still superior to the gamepads. First-person games are much better than what they were on consoles, but suggesting that they are better on consoles than on a PC is just downright stupid. "

" Even if games appear on the PC, they should still be considered exclusives because they're still locked to the same console developer.  Splinter Cell and Mass Effect 2 are going out for the Microsoft Xbox 360 and Microsoft Windows platform.  They are Microsoft-exclusive; the games are not coming to consoles developed by Sony or Nintendo. "

" @Binman88 said:

" They mean console exclusive. "

It doesnt matter is the thing. If someone starts a title and says "Console exclusives", that would be one thing. When people make titles like "what 360 exclusives are here in 2010?" and people name games on the 360 and the PC , they are not exclusive. I dont really care if some people assume console exclusive and dont care about it, but it is rather dumb to do in the first place. Halo Reach is an exclusive. Splinter Cell conviction and Mass Effect 2 are not. There is basically an issue of clarification, name actual exclusives to the system and ONLY the system. "

" i don't really understand why people don't think of the PC. i think it is because a lot of people don't upgrade their computers so they don't play on PC. once the computer gets crappy then it is time to buy a new computer. "

Jesus. I love my PC, but lets stop being so delusional. The PC gaming market is, at this point, minuscule when compared to the console market, you just need to look at sales to see that. As a result, most discussions about exclusives are kept between the big three, is that truly such a difficult idea to get your head around. 
 
If you want to talk phraseology, then sure, it's not really an exclusive, but in reality, the PC market is currently too small to be included in these discussions.

" Because many console gamers just have no interest in playing on PC.  Therefore a game being on one console and PC is practically an exclusive as far as they are concerned.  This isn't that complicated an issue, dudes. "

" @cstrang said:

" Even if games appear on the PC, they should still be considered exclusives because they're still locked to the same console developer.  Splinter Cell and Mass Effect 2 are going out for the Microsoft Xbox 360 and Microsoft Windows platform.  They are Microsoft-exclusive; the games are not coming to consoles developed by Sony or Nintendo. "

Except I can also play those games on Mac OS X... or Ubuntu Linux... or pretty much any OS.  I agree with OP, I can't fucking stand when people say that games like Mass Effect, Splinter Cell, Left 4 Dead, etc. are 360-exclusive. It's just completely nonsensical, as they aren't "EXCLUSIVE" to that platform. You don't need a 360 to play those games. They are not solely on the 360. Therefore, they are not EXCLUSIVE. And the whole "PC doesn't count, I mean CONSOLE exclusive" is utter shit, and whoever tries to pull that is a fucking moron. "

people don't care about the PC get the hell over it

" who cares,  i go by console exclusives because no one really cares about the PC anyway. "

" @Titus said:

" @MALACHE: In the United States anyway. It's cause you guys are too lazy to upgrade your computers to state of the art technology. It's a bit more expensive, sure, but a keyboard and a mouse is still superior to the gamepads. First-person games are much better than what they were on consoles, but suggesting that they are better on consoles than on a PC is just downright stupid. "

Not this elitist bullshit again. "

1. It may be unspoken, but what they mean is CONSOLE exclusive.
2. PC versions of those games can be drastically different. Compare the UI for Mass Effect on 360 compared to the PC.
3. Most new games released for PC have brutal system requirements, and so the barrier for entry is much higher than consoles.
4. PC sales are a small percentage compared to sales on consoles.
5. PC-only gamers are jerks.

I still care about PC games and I know enough people who care about them to know that saying people don't care about PC is ridiculous. 

Console exclusive. Stop being smart-asses and realize that that's what it means. I think the term is meant to put fanboys of any system in their place, without being a fanboy yourself. 
 
Sure there is the PC but unless you always keep up to date with the upgrades you won't have the best experience. So many people own consoles because it's convenient and the experience is basically the same, with a much, much larger variety of games. Sure the PC can be a platform but it's different than a console which is meant exclusively for gaming. Me, I only use my PC for the internet, videos, downloading, etc. I use my gaming systems for games. I'm not saying you shouldn't use PCs for games, it's just that that's what some people do. Unless you bought a pure gaming PC that's when it can be called a platform and sadly, there are far fewer people with gaming PCs than consoles. 
 
For instance, my friend just bought a Intel Core 2 Quad PC with 8GB ram, 2.8 GHz, with all this stuff and he wanted to play the Saboteur on it. Sadly, the PC had an ATI card and couldn't run it, so he had to sell the game. Also, the same card (I'm pretty sure it's integrated) will only let him run Dragon Age at a little higher than middle settings and it still chugs during battles. He's pretty much the only friend I know who plays PC games - the other two friends he lives with have decent computers (not as good as his though) and they only play WoW all day since 2008, so I wouldn't call them gamers, more like WoW players. Everyone else I know owns a console. 
 
It's for these reasons that I myself don't consider the PC when I think of exclusives, simply because I tend to not think of the system. I've had bad experiences with PC gaming in my past and I don't think I'll ever go back, but I can still see how careful planning can make a really good PC. 
 
Also, Another thing is that the majority of PC games are for Windows, which is owned by Microsoft. The other small, small percentage is Apple, and that's a whole other story. Even if you can play them on Linux, that doesn't change the fact they were made for Microsoft or Apple. You can still play SNES emulators on a PC, but that doens't mean SNES games were made for the PC.

Who cares what people call their games. You can call it exclusive or  a hippopotamus if you want

" Jesus. I love my PC, but lets stop being so delusional. The PC gaming market is, at this point, minuscule when compared to the console market, you just need to look at sales to see that. As a result, most discussions about exclusives are kept between the big three, is that truly such a difficult idea to get your head around. 
 
If you want to talk phraseology, then sure, it's not really an exclusive, but in reality, the PC market is currently too small to be included in these discussions. "