i hope this dosent mean that i have to have the disk in or that the shared games with 10 people are gone... non of the restrictions bothers me, if they made it possible to play offline while the disc is in and put the time to 48 houers between checks when playing from the hardrive it would be perfect
Man...makes me think they were not liking the number of pre-orders they were getting or something.
I'm still getting a PS4, but I guess now I would consider getting an Xbox One in the future when the price drops(if they have enough exclusive games I want to play on it).
Patrick moves back to Chicago, casually drops the most mind-blowing exclusive scoop of the past seven years, and potentially, of the whole generation. Because he's fucking Scoop, yo. Respect, Patrick.
I knew this would happen as soon as Sony dropped the mic. I said at the time it was far too soon to reverse stance the day after because it would seem like Sony forced their hand and "based on customer feedback" would be the only way to change their PR stance.
With them Saying that the consoles have to be always on blah blah blah, this meant that their cloud services that off load certain processes would technically "work" as every consumer would have to be online. With this now no longer a must, does it mean devs cant rely on this?
Massive expressions of consumer outrage made this possible. When someone tells you that petitions and twitter campaigns don't work, remind them of this day. Consumer action did this. Pretty fucking incredible.
Not that I don't have faith in Scoops, but this definitely needs to be confirmed before any relevant actions can take place. But if it is so, this would be HUGE (well, not to me because, frankly, used physical disc based games don't really matter (even though they seem to)). This would effectively take away the over-inflated crutch Sony has been leaning on for their entire platform in one fell swoop and instead of being muddled by fringe use-case policies consumers could actually focus on the relevant merits of each system.
In my honest opinion though, I don't see Microsoft actually doing this. I think it's more realistic to see a second SKU option with price drop. Then again, with so much at stake and the frivolous nature of word of mouth influence I guess anything is possible.
That's cool do I still have to pay 12 dollars a month for P2p internet with all the media shit locked behind that? Do I still have to deal with 12 year olds on their shitty online service and bad selection of games? Do I still have to have the shitty kinect and pay 100 dollars more?
Also, I'm sorry, but this just makes them look like incompetent fools. They've planned this whole elaborate DRM business and it has blown up in their faces. All the while they're preaching about how wonderful their plan is and how worthless their customers are. This isn't about improving customer relations. This isn't a favor. This is about money.
About money? Duh. Why do you think Sony did it? Because they love you?
Both companies are all about the money. Sony was just smart enough to let MS lead the way on these issues, see the kickback, get executive buy in, and react quickly - seizing the opportunity for money, not because they are overwhelmed with charitable feeling towards you.
Now MS, about the indie lock-out and that DDR3 RAM with 3GB reserved for the OS...
Doesn't this now put pretty big limitations on what they can do with the cloud since consoles do not have to be constantly connected to their network? Or will portions of game features/content just not be available to users without an internet connection?......
The old requirement was only every 24 hours so they would have had to have something planned anyway. All the new features related to the check like sharing and playing without the disc are gone now. I guess real digital distribution will have to wait another generation.
Matters little to me, M$ have a long track record of shitting on gamers, its a bit late to start announcing new exclusive now, what about the last 3 years you gobshite's!
Is it weird that I find this a little disappointing? I was kind of interested in seeing what kinds of crazy systems MIcrosoft would create in order to try and stay competitive despite their draconian restrictions. I'm happy to see they're doing this, but still, it lost a little of what makes it unique.
Nice to have them reverse their policies, still there are other issues to consider. Things like a library consisting of mostly shooters, and very few exclusives that aren't Halo, Forza and Gears of War. That and the drought in exclusives consumers experienced in the last 4 years.
"I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are going to love it."
I actually have mixed feelings about this. As long as it doesn't affect games that were going to take advantage of the always on connectivity, I guess it's alright. All my years of using Steam on the PC had already prepared me for a digital-based console, so it wasn't a big deal to me, although I can understand why it is to others. This will definitely help them in markets where internet is not all that great.
I still can't help but feel like they could have still implemented some of this stuff if it had been presented properly, i.e. "Think of the way games work on Xbox Live arcdade today. Well now all games work like that."
It's people's attachment to what they think a disc represents and what it actually does that causes these kinds of PR explosions. I see this as a super-large scale version of the way the community reacted to DLC being on disc in SFxTekken and Gears of War 3.
Patrick, you magnificent son-of-a-bitch, you SCOOPED 'em all! And you haven't even moved back to the Central Time Zone yet! Microsoft's and Giant Bomb's websites are both melting.
I'd like to say it's too little too late, what with the PR damage having been done, but my guess is by November all of this won't be so fresh in peoples' minds.
Let's hope this makes Microsoft (and other companies) think twice before forcing silly policies!
Good job guys, you've managed to kill a lot of interesting things about the Xbox One. Now the disk is required to play games you bought on disk, which means you can't instantly switch to any game you get an invite to unless you bought it digitally. It also means you can't take your entire game collection with you to any Xbox One you signed into your account on, and no 10 member family account plan either. No household family has 10 people in it, this was obviously their quiet answer to being able to lend games to your friends.
The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
This theoretically means Steam will be the most likely frontrunner to bring sharing and reselling of digital titles to consumers. Most interesting!
I'll wait for the official announcement, but if this turns out to be true it allays the only minor misgiving I had about XONE. I wasn't going to get either console before now, but now I'm thinking about the next Xbox because their game lineup is way more interesting to me. Touche.
This isn't a victory, it's holding back progress on consoles for another generation. The policies were too restrictive, but now all the benefits (digital library, sharing, quick snapping to games, less dependence on big box retail model, etc.) are all gone.With this race-to-the-bottom, it's been assured that the next generation will just the same consoles with a bit more power.
I hope they'll find a way to give users a choice to do full-install from disc, but I doubt it.
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