My fellow gamers, thank you for the opportunity to sum up the current state of video games. Although many of you are short-term players, a lot of you will recall the bygone days of the Atari 2600 like myself. Over the years a lot has changed on the scene, and now we find ourself in yet another generation of consoles. I'll tackle these one at a time.
My Take on the Current State of Console Gaming
My fellow gamers, thank you for the opportunity to sum up the current state of video games. Although many of you are short-term players, a lot of you will recall the bygone days of the Atari 2600 like myself. Over the years a lot has changed on the scene, and now we find ourself in yet another generation of consoles. I'll tackle these one at a time.
Not elitist at all. Read the posts, people. I own a Wii, I owned a 360, and I'd like to buy a PS3 if the price were to come down. I'm just feeling a bit burned by the whole console scene right now.
To each his own, I love my Wii. Golf will never be the same on a PC or Dual Analog Gamepad, but golf is my favorite genre. I've played games since Pong, so I just see it as have fun with what you got. I have a Wii, Xbox 360, an aging gaming PC and have fun with them all. Give me everything and I'll take it, more games please.
So you attack each system with the most invalid, stereotypical insults frequently thrown around by fanboys of each side, but cleverly exclude the absurd insults of the same type when it comes down to your choice of system. Congrats, for all your years, being so old school as you want to claim by mentioning the 2600, you sure lack maturity. Personally, I own a PCWii combo and am satisfied by both without trying to insult owners of other systems who are also usually satisfied. After all, if you're not, it's easy to fix by selling your current systems and games to get a different one. Wii=waggle, 360=RROD, PS3=lolxpensiv, PC=<3 is pretty much what you had to say here. Grow up and learn to be satisfied with your own choices without having an absurd need to justify and project your preferences as industry facts.
"So you attack each system with the most invalid, stereotypical insults frequently thrown around by fanboys of each side, but cleverly exclude the absurd insults of the same type when it comes down to your choice of system. Congrats, for all your years, being so old school as you want to claim by mentioning the 2600, you sure lack maturity. Personally, I own a PCWii combo and am satisfied by both without trying to insult owners of other systems who are also usually satisfied. After all, if you're not, it's easy to fix by selling your current systems and games to get a different one. Wii=waggle, 360=RROD, PS3=lolxpensiv, PC=<3 is pretty much what you had to say here. Grow up and learn to be satisfied with your own choices without having an absurd need to justify and project your preferences as industry facts."Damn, this is just complete destruction right here.
PC as a gaming platform is unrivaled, call me an 'elitiest' too if you want but anyone who actually proclaims that any of these consoles is better than PC is an obvious fanboy to thier respective platform."I'd argue that they're all better than PC in many ways, and PC is better than all of them in many ways too. If you fail to see how each of these consoles could be considered better than PC for gaming, then you're the fanboy.
As this is a blog post, its opinionated tone is implied. If I were to defend myself (which I don't feel the need to, but I'll ask anyway) is there anything non-factual in my blog at all? Can you dispute anything based on factual evidence? Does the Wii have the "core" game library of the 360? Does the 360 not have a high failure rate? Does the PS3's price not impede its sales? Seems like that's all accurate to me...
"So you attack each system with the most invalid, stereotypical insults frequently thrown around by fanboys of each side, but cleverly exclude the absurd insults of the same type when it comes down to your choice of system. Congrats, for all your years, being so old school as you want to claim by mentioning the 2600, you sure lack maturity. Personally, I own a PCWii combo and am satisfied by both without trying to insult owners of other systems who are also usually satisfied. After all, if you're not, it's easy to fix by selling your current systems and games to get a different one. Wii=waggle, 360=RROD, PS3=lolxpensiv, PC=<3 is pretty much what you had to say here. Grow up and learn to be satisfied with your own choices without having an absurd need to justify and project your preferences as industry facts."I was going to type something, but this sums it up.
Also, as this is a blog post, constructive comments would be welcome. Outright flaming someone for talking about facts (and I challenge you to find anything non-factual in my blog post) is just simple lack of maturity on your part, not mine. I put the talking points out there, touted the advantages and disatvantages of the systems on the market nowadays, and came to the conclusion that I prefer my PC. I fail to see how that's anything but statement of truisms.
"Also, as this is a blog post, constructive comments would be welcome. Outright flaming someone for talking about facts (and I challenge you to find anything non-factual in my blog post) is just simple lack of maturity on your part, not mine. I put the talking points out there, touted the advantages and disatvantages of the systems on the market nowadays, and came to the conclusion that I prefer my PC. I fail to see how that's anything but statement of truisms."Like others stated, you ranted about the most commonly brought up problems, while not even evaluating the state of PC gaming. PC gaming has more than its fair share of problems too, to me it was enough to get me to mostly give up on PC gaming for the time being.
To make a good blog post, point out why the problems of the consoles matter TO YOU, and why PC gaming's problems don't.
Like others stated, you ranted about the most commonly brought up problems, while not even evaluating the state of PC gaming. PC gaming has more than its fair share of problems too, to me it was enough to get me to mostly give up on PC gaming for the time being.To make a good blog post, point out why the problems of the consoles matter TO YOU, and why PC gaming's problems don't."Thus the part of the title that read "My Take..." Does anyone not understand the concept of opinion anymore?
I own a 360 and a Wii, and a PC that's not powerful enough to play the new graphic-intense games smoothly.
"I own a 360 and a Wii, and a PC that's not powerful enough to play the new graphic-intense games smoothly.I'm on the same page as Commando is. I've got a pretty decent computer but it won't budge on anything that's of next-gen quality. I get lots of people who are big on PC gaming telling me to get a better hardware. Easier than said than done, but it gets expensive to stay the top dog with frequent advancements in gaming design including uber graphics, higher polygon counts and special effects. Consoles are good for people who have a limited budget, but that doesn't rule out that even richer people enjoy playing on consoles. I know this rich guy who has a uber computer but he plays his Xbox 360 because it's fun and all his friends play on it.The 360 is fun, and I have probably played it the most out of all 3. You're right about the RROD. I'm on my 3rd 360, because the 1st replacement they sent me didn't show picture right out of the box. They "made it up to me" with a free copy of PGR3. Overall though, I love my 360.The Wii is fun... when you're drunk. No problems with it, but the only games I played by myself were Zelda and the SSBB campaign. But if you're drunk and you have some friends around, the Wii is probably the greatest thing ever.My PC plays older games like Battlefield 1942, Counterstrike, and Starcraft. I just can't afford to keep upgrading it to play the new games smoothly.I mean, if you can afford it, PC gaming is great but consoles are pretty reliable gaming on a budget, with the exception of PS3. With the money people spend on PS3 you could buy a top-of-the-line graphics card that would last you 5 years, and have a bigger selection of games, and better graphics.So although you make some good points like the Wii lacks good games, the 360 breaks down, and the PS3 is too expensive, I gotta stick with my consoles because PC gaming at it's finest requires a new graphics card every few years, and a new processor every few years. I can't afford that, but if you can, it's a lot of fun."
"I own a 360 and a Wii, and a PC that's not powerful enough to play the new graphic-intense games smoothly.I like how you think. I lack the funds to drop large amounts of cash on a new GPU or processor every other year. I much prefer PC gaming but it's too expensive for me. That's why I also have a 360. I can play new games on my 360 and some slightly older games (TF2, Company of Heroes) on my PC. It's a win-win situation for me.The 360 is fun, and I have probably played it the most out of all 3. You're right about the RROD. I'm on my 3rd 360, because the 1st replacement they sent me didn't show picture right out of the box. They "made it up to me" with a free copy of PGR3. Overall though, I love my 360.The Wii is fun... when you're drunk. No problems with it, but the only games I played by myself were Zelda and the SSBB campaign. But if you're drunk and you have some friends around, the Wii is probably the greatest thing ever.My PC plays older games like Battlefield 1942, Counterstrike, and Starcraft. I just can't afford to keep upgrading it to play the new games smoothly.I mean, if you can afford it, PC gaming is great but consoles are pretty reliable gaming on a budget, with the exception of PS3. With the money people spend on PS3 you could buy a top-of-the-line graphics card that would last you 5 years, and have a bigger selection of games, and better graphics.So although you make some good points like the Wii lacks good games, the 360 breaks down, and the PS3 is too expensive, I gotta stick with my consoles because PC gaming at it's finest requires a new graphics card every few years, and a new processor every few years. I can't afford that, but if you can, it's a lot of fun."
"Diamond said:Xbox 360: One of -the- largest player base that uses mics, more so than PC players. Because a mic is included in every Xbox 360 there isn't a problem with making friends or enemies alike on Xbox Live with your mouth. Mics and especially headsets are normally optional for most causal players on PC and normally hardcore ones purchase such accessories in clans. And no, don't bitch at $60 a year. It already costs my parents that much for cable/internet for a month."Fragstoff said:okay then. maybe there are some points you could give consoles over PC, but its still unrivaledI guess when the developers FAIL @ porting."PC as a gaming platform is unrivaled, call me an 'elitiest' too if you want but anyone who actually proclaims that any of these consoles is better than PC is an obvious fanboy to thier respective platform."I'd argue that they're all better than PC in many ways, and PC is better than all of them in many ways too. If you fail to see how each of these consoles could be considered better than PC for gaming, then you're the fanboy."
Wii: Since when was the last time PC players had motion control...?
PS3: Blu-ray high definition in it's glory.
Also console exclusives. There are some console games that may never see the day of light on PCs, or PC games on consoles. Either way you get what you pick and choose. If you want to play PC games then go for it, just don't shove it down our throats on how consoles are teh shit.
I wouldn't pluck your chickens before they hatch in regards to the Wii. What if Nintendos next console smokes the "720" out of the water in graphics and game selection? *obviously at this point Sony has quit lol* Saying the Wii will be your last Nintendo console just seems a little premature, since we dont know whether they'll continue on that path with their next gen system. I can see them making a seperate system for real gamers while keeping the wii around for families. That little white modem has a lot of staying power in that market.
"Diamond said:No, no one understands that concept anymore. Why would they? Almost everyone on the internet these days displays their opinion as if it were fact.Like others stated, you ranted about the most commonly brought up problems, while not even evaluating the state of PC gaming. PC gaming has more than its fair share of problems too, to me it was enough to get me to mostly give up on PC gaming for the time being.To make a good blog post, point out why the problems of the consoles matter TO YOU, and why PC gaming's problems don't."Thus the part of the title that read "My Take..." Does anyone not understand the concept of opinion anymore?"
If you do it right, you can build a good gaming PC on the cheap if you know where to buy parts. Right now, PC gaming's kind of plateaued in terms of hardware. CPUs have hit a speed bottleneck, graphic cards are starting to be incrimental improvements only, and hard drives are cheap. To run todays most popular games, I'd wager that a PC to run them on could be done for $600- $700. Considering how utilitarian the PC is, that's a pretty good bargain. If anyone wants help building one, I'll be happy to point you in the right direction.
"Also, as this is a blog post, constructive comments would be welcome. Outright flaming someone for talking about facts (and I challenge you to find anything non-factual in my blog post) is just simple lack of maturity on your part, not mine. I put the talking points out there, touted the advantages and disatvantages of the systems on the market nowadays, and came to the conclusion that I prefer my PC. I fail to see how that's anything but statement of truisms."
"OOH! OOH! THE WII IS $249.99!!! FACTUAL ERROR!!!!!!! jkYes I want to know as well. Even though it probably was not your intention, you gave the impression in your blog that you were putting the PC platform on a pedestal above the other platforms.By the way, what would your take on the current state of P.C. (and Mac?) gaming be?"
AgentJ, I'm glad you asked. While there's a lot to love on the PC, I'm seeing a lot of rehashing of old ideas, and not a lot of new ground being covered. Spore, for all that it was, tired to do something different and is very commendable in that regard. However, PC games tend to lean toward the strengths of the platform- FPSes, RTSes, and MMOs.
There are quite a few good FPSes out there, and several are multiplatform. FEAR 2, & Crysis Warhead are a couple of the stand-outs. I'm not sure what they can do to innovate the genre, so I'm inclined to give 'em a pass.
As far as RTSes go, the big draw currently is Dawn of War II. I thoroughly enjoyed the game, despite being taken back a bit from its departure to the original game. The smaller scale leads to more tactical battles, and I appreciate what Relic's trying to do with the RTS genre. On the horizon, we have Demigod by Chris Taylor, and that looks amazing. Then there's the C&C series, which always pleases.
With MMOs, the PC's pretty much the only real place to play 'em. WoW's still going strong, despite not really offering any earth-shattering gameplay changes in the WOTLK expansion. I played Warhammer Online, and really enjoyed my stay. I would've liked to have played more, but finances have put a brake on that idea. EVE is actually getting a lot of press nowadays, and that's amazing for a niche game in a niche genre.
One thing I'm particularly happy about is the number of multiplatform games showing up on PC. Just about every major title on 360 is coming our way, including Street Fighter IV. We already have Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Gears of War (and I suspect GOW2 will come to PC, because of Epic's history), GTA IV, etc. Not to mention that the 360's controller works on PC, too. Overall, I'm happy that PC is getting the best 360 games (which is the console library of choice), usually for $10 less with extra content. Granted, we have to wait a while to get them ported over, but usually its worth the savings and the wait.
As I said above, PC hardware development's has kind of plateued recently, which makes building a new PC to game on very cost-effective, and helps ensure that you'll get more life out of your hardware. Now is actually the best time to get into PC gaming, if you're so inclined.
I'm not really a Mac person, so I'll defer that to someone who is if they feel like jumping in on that one.
Okay I mean this as constructive criticism not as a flame but is the retreading of old ideas in games the only flaw you see with pc gaming? I ask because you spent as much space touting what you like about the pc as you did tearing down every console. I understand this is about your preferences but it seems to lack some objectivity, no offense.
Its too bad that I really am not a fan of fist person games and MMORPGs, because if i were, i'd probably want a gaming rig. BTW Dead Space isn't FPS, so you should probably edit that. Frankly, I'm happy with simply buying a complete package (consoles) that i don't have to tinker with and swap out parts for. I'd say that is the downside to PC gaming as it is, and why it won't ever be a mass-market gaming machine. (I'm the kind of guy that tried setting up Mame on my computer and had a lot of problems, so you can see why making my own rig would be daunting). Of course, I will certainly be buying Starcraft II, once it comes out in a battle chest. Like I'm going to buy 3 games for full price?
"Okay I mean this as constructive criticism not as a flame but is the retreading of old ideas in games the only flaw you see with pc gaming? I ask because you spent as much space touting what you like about the pc as you did tearing down every console. I understand this is about your preferences but it seems to lack some objectivity, no offense."First, thanks for the great comment. To answer your question: Retreading isn't exclusive to the PC, and no- there are other flaws. The occasional driver/software incompatibility or error will crop up, as will the stability of some games (crash to desktop). Then you have Windows, despite being much more stable than it used to be, is still- well- Windows. I apologize for not taking both sides of that debate, as I was answering AgentJ's question, not so much working on the pros/cons of the PC platform.
I think someone needs to write a 800 page book on why PC gaming is better than console gaming, millions of the blogs restating the same things over and over again is NOT ENOUGH.
I vote for a reality show "Why I like PC gaming over consoles - battle!" We could have a bunch of people w/ Mountain Dew case mods playing WoW explaining how Uber they are!
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