#101 Posted by bricewgilbert (180 posts) -

Anti-science, anti-empiricism, anti-democracy. The bane of human existence.

#102 Posted by leebmx (2227 posts) -

I hope all the bookshops take note and start removing John Stuart Mill and David Hume from their philosophy sections. According to his facebook page he was a big fan of these two as well.

#103 Posted by TheChaos (1158 posts) -

People buy games at retailer stores?

#104 Posted by Beaudacious (927 posts) -

Guys am currently using Cheese to train for my violent anarchist revolution, so once they capture me don't be surprised if they ban all Cheese Worldwide.

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#105 Posted by gike987 (1751 posts) -

The most surprising thing about these news is the fact that Coop sells games.

#106 Posted by Dixavd (1305 posts) -

I don't think this will be an indefinite blocking of the titles, it seems more of a reactionary term to try and get as many people to let go and stop thinkign about what happens - the fact they are willing to take that into consideration first whether there is scientific fact on studies with violent games or if it affects their profit seems quite commendable. I would probably guess they want to ake there stores a place where people can go and get away from the story for a bit while there and the titles will probably return by the Autumn (at least in their stores that aren't in the area of where it happened which they may leave the games off for longer). Although I have never been to Norwya or heard of this store but it seems like the most logical reason they did this.

#107 Posted by dvorak (1496 posts) -

They might as well have just said "We're actively trying to put ourselves out of business! Let's see how long it takes! WOOOO!"

#108 Posted by fisk0 (3878 posts) -

@Claude said:

@Disease said:

Whatever.. nobody buys their games at a Coop store here in Norway

Are they pretty big or something or are they trying to get their name in the media?

At least in Sweden Coop owns one of the biggest chains of grocery stores, they also have some electronics stores, but nothing that's really focused on games or other entertainment, mostly the hardware stuff. They do usually carry a small selection of cheap games though, mainly the biggest titles and a selection of budget/platinum/classics titles.

#109 Posted by vinsanityv22 (1064 posts) -

That's actually  not that bad. Seems almost like they're doing it out of respect for the victims now. The games'll come back eventually - they even said so themselves. In the meantime, maybe some customers to that store will check out some non-shooters? Hopefully. There are a TON of great games out there; some of which aren't even violent. I always hate it when people think games are exclusively violent - it's just that these people are informed by their boyfriends of whatnot, and their bf's are idiots who ONLY play shooters. 
 
And ignore much better games like Ico, Enslaved, Zelda, Mario, or even Mirror's Edge, which was more about running away from people with guns than actually shooting back at them. That's a problem for the entire mainstream perception of video games, unfortunately. Shooters rule the day, in more ways than one. And that's a shame. Because they're seldom the most memorable titles out there.

#110 Posted by McGhee (6094 posts) -

This just in.

"Random psycho #13,424 was known to enjoy the violent sport of football. Retailers have now indefinitely pulled all footballs from their shelves."

#111 Posted by Black_Rose (7785 posts) -

Seems reasonable to me. 

#112 Posted by Dialyctic (48 posts) -

Pointless, but eh. Doesn't hurt anyone.

#113 Posted by Qodot (105 posts) -

MY SON KILLED 200 PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET A PURPLE DROP

#114 Posted by fisk0 (3878 posts) -

@Swervinmonkeyz said:

Anyone gonna mention the guy was a right-wing, Christian fanatic? No? WELL HE WAS.

There's also the fact that you don't have to play MW2's No Russian scenario to get inspired either, similar attacks (in method, not targets or scope) are an every day occurance in parts of the world. You don't have to go further than to watch a news broadcast to learn that terrorists often use police uniforms to get the confidence of their victims before carrying out an attack. Or for that matter, there are several classic movies with somewhat detailed depictions of the planning and execution of terrorist attacks - Pontecorvo's 1966 "Battle of Algiers" comes to mind, with it's objective, almost documentary, depiction of the preparations for bombings of cafes, night clubs and an airport.

There's also the more recent Der Baader Meinhof Komplex and Battle for Haditha, and well, of course, the Bible itself features quite a few graphical depictions of what you're allowed to do to heathens in God's name.

#115 Posted by YukoAsho (2001 posts) -
@CptBedlam said:

PR moves. Don't be surprised if you find these games again on the shelves in a few weeks.

I think more to the point, other game stores are going to have a field day taking the profits that the controversy will bring.
 
Anyone who believes gaming had anything to do with video games has their heads up their asses and is unwilling to see the truth - the world's populaces are embracing extremist ideologies, and it's only going to get more and more violent as time goes on.
#116 Posted by Jeust (10488 posts) -

What about movies and all other works of art considered violent? 
 
Games as a scapegoat yet again.

#117 Posted by Max_Hydrogen (818 posts) -

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are... A stage production at my school replaced a fake gun with a banana because of the Dawson College Shooting... These trite gestures don't actually accomplish anything and they just feed the fear driven herd mentality (notice how no one apologized to the Dixie Chicks after it became fashionable to hate Bush again...?)

What do video games even have to do with that incident anyway?! Did he even mention video games? No, he wrote a 1500 page manifesto about Islam and multiculturalism; no mention of video games. That guy had served in the army; maybe instead of banning the virtual people and their pretend world of video games, they should ban actual violent real people who kill others in the real world...

Here's an idea: when a real person kills another real person we could ban them and take them out of circulation so the general public doesn't come into connect with them; in other words: put them in prison... By removing violent video games, certain people are implying that video games are responsible for these kinds of incidents, or else, why remove them...?

Sucks.

#118 Edited by fisk0 (3878 posts) -

@Max_Hydrogen said:

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are... A stage production at my school replaced a fake gun with a banana because of the Dawson College Shooting... These trite gestures don't actually accomplish anything and they just feed the fear driven herd mentality (notice how no one apologized to the Dixie Chicks after it became fashionable to hate Bush again...?)

What do video games even have to do with that incident anyway?! Did he even mention video games? No, he wrote a 1500 page manifesto about Islam and multiculturalism; no mention of video games. That guy had served in the army; maybe instead of banning the virtual people and their pretend world of video games, they should ban actual violent real people who kill others in the real world...

Here's an idea: when a real person kills another real person we could ban them and take them out of circulation so the general public doesn't come into connect with them; in other words: put them in prison... By removing violent video games, certain people are implying that video games are responsible for these kinds of incidents, or else, why remove them...?

Sucks.

He did explicitly mention World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2 in the diary part of his manifesto. He claimed he used them as training, though I don't think he said in what way they helped him with any part of the attack. Maybe the player base of the two made his hate of humanity grow stronger, though by some reports by people who claim to have played with him, he was one of the people screaming "fag" in the voice chat. I have a hard time seeing how MW2 could in any way help you get better in handling weapons, as the guns reload and aim themselves at the push of a button and requires no maintenance, and I'd think there would be a difference between shooting at the same repeated faceless character model and 500 kids running for their lives.

#119 Posted by DG991 (1344 posts) -

@Dany said:

@Kyreo said:

This will only encourage piracy.

Uhm..quite a leap in logic huh?

Not too large of a leap.

#120 Edited by NekuCTR (1663 posts) -

Your not "helping to show consideration for those affected" your fucking emphasizing it. Why breed pointless hate for something so insignificant? Retailers man, the most mindless people in the world run them.

#121 Posted by eccentrix (1514 posts) -

I surprised they could find 51 violent games in their stock.

#122 Posted by Brendan (7696 posts) -

@Qodot said:

MY SON KILLED 200 PEOPLE TO TRY AND GET A PURPLE DROP

Oh god, I laughed.

#123 Posted by InfamousBIG (3200 posts) -

Man, I hope one day one of these psycho killers will be all like "Man, I killed all these people cause of this Jack Thompson dude, he pissed me off so much, it's his fault." I'd love to see him pulled indefinitely from shelves.

#124 Posted by Morden2261 (277 posts) -

Even if it's a minor retailer, this reaction is stupid.

#125 Posted by Xymox (2071 posts) -

It's like they say... Coop is for carebears.

#126 Edited by Castiel (2540 posts) -

@Dany said:

@Kyreo said:

This will only encourage piracy.

Uhm..quite a leap in logic huh?

Oh please don't ruin Kyreo's shallow excuse for illegal downloading.

#127 Posted by Kujel (25 posts) -

If they leave good games on the shelves like Halo(es), Assassin's Creed, Red Faction, Saints Row, etc it's okay. Crap like cod and wow shouldn't have been on the shelves in the first place.

#128 Posted by Subjugation (4718 posts) -

I'm glad they understand what is to blame here.

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#129 Posted by Mepsipax (5 posts) -
@Claude: Coop is pretty huge in all of scandinavia, but they mostly consist of supermarkets.
#130 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -

@Mepsipax said:

@Claude: Coop is pretty huge in all of scandinavia, but they mostly consist of supermarkets.

Sounds like Walmart.

#131 Posted by Mepsipax (5 posts) -

Shouldn't they consider the 11+ million users who plays WoW and 10+ million people who bought Modern Warfare 2 that aren't psychotic massmurderers?
Anyway, I guess Breivik played the airportlevel from MW2 a few too many times...

#132 Posted by cikame (973 posts) -

That's one way to shut down a business.

#133 Posted by Superfriend (1535 posts) -

Suckers.

#134 Posted by Yanngc33 (4496 posts) -

The only thing MW 2 has taught me is that shooting guys in the face can be frustrating…

#135 Posted by FMinus (389 posts) -

I wanted to move to Norway to hunt trolls, but now that my troll hunting simulator is removed from store shelves I will reconsider. 

#136 Posted by Simplexity (1382 posts) -

I was not aware they sold games in Coop stores, I work at one part time and we don't sell any games.

Not a big deal.

#137 Posted by probablytuna (3550 posts) -

Let the censorship begin....

#138 Posted by Ghostiet (5228 posts) -

They understand that Breivik was playing WoW? You could make pathetic, dumbass jokes about the connection with the attacks, but I think is pretty Goddamn clear to everyone video games WEREN'T a factor in this man's insanity.

#139 Posted by JakeTaylor (309 posts) -

Coop sell food and have a bunch of insurance options in the UK. 
 
There's one near my house. They're overpriced.

#140 Posted by dudeglove (7688 posts) -

But Homefront is shit.

#141 Posted by AMonkey (116 posts) -

Good thing they removed World of Warcraft. Otherwise there would be thousands of trained Gnome assassins in Norway.

#142 Posted by AMonkey (116 posts) -
@CosmicQueso: One video game retailer=all of Norway. Good job Cosmic.
#143 Edited by Oddsor (23 posts) -

You all shouldn't really worry, most people in Norway never go to a Coop-store in order to buy games. I'll assume families go there and pick up games for their kids, in which case they wouldn't get these games anyway. Our actual game stores said they didn't really see the connection between the killer and games.
Edit: I forgot about "Platekompaniet", which is actually a games retailer. So I guess you all should probably worry a little bit!
 
I liked the response of one of our grocery store-chains better, where they turned our biggest news papers front to back because they keep putting the killer's picture on the front page. We've seen enough of that guy by now, thank you very much, I'm pretty sure we'll remember his face if he ever gets out.
http://img.ly/6KVp

#144 Posted by S0ndor (2715 posts) -

The economy involved is the only reason they are doing this. It's free publicity. They are just going for the holier-than-thou image in the hopes that it will draw in more customers. 
 
Self-righteous hypocrites assemble! Milk that attack for all it's worth boy. 

#145 Posted by Tofford (526 posts) -

Wasn't the guy killing people because he was Christian and the government were letting too many Muslims into the country. Sounds like Religion should be banned rather than games

#146 Posted by GrandMarshal (387 posts) -

when will people realise crazy people will always be crazy with or without video games

#147 Posted by Oddsor (23 posts) -
@S0ndor: That they're trying to cash in on the tragedy by drawing attention to the store is quite likely, but most/all norwegians I know won't give a shit about a store trying to appeal to our (fundamentalist) "christian values".
#148 Posted by geirr (2483 posts) -

Guys, I'm from Norway, and this is fucked up.

Anders also ate bread and took showers, I don't think Coop has any plans on dropping these products from their shelves.

#149 Posted by PolygonSlayer (419 posts) -

@CosmicQueso: This has nothing to do with Norway as a whole. This is one stupid retailer who still is run by people who have no idea what video games are. The Norwegian government has stated nothing but more openness in the society after these attacks as being the solution needed. I suggest you have a look at the rose-marches that happened around Norway for the real response that was uttered.

#150 Edited by MrKadaver (140 posts) -

No one buys games there. Seriously this does not deserve even a mention.