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#1 Edited by The_Ruiner (1060 posts) -

I recently bought this book:

And it reminded me how much I really enjoy the Dragon Age lore. I've read the novels and most of the comics, and I love the way their history mirrors the history and cultures of Europe. And I enjoy the individual personalities of the races and cultures (Ferelden is my favorite).

But fantasy lore is a lot like taco bell food. A lot of it has the exact same ingredients, just repacked and prepared in such a way that it can change the flavor of the whole thing. So I'm curious what people's consider their favorite fantasy lore. I mean there are tons of options to choose from Warcraft, Diablo, Elder Scrolls, The Witcher, Secret of Mana etc. So what's your favorite lore?

#2 Edited by TooWalrus (13208 posts) -

I know that Warcraft ripped off Warhammer ripped off Tolkien ripped off Beowulf etc, but it doesn't really matter to me. I've still got a soft spot for Warcraft. I haven't read the books or anything, but I'm thinkin' about it.

#3 Posted by RandomHero666 (3181 posts) -

I love everything to do with Middle Earth.

Tolkien is the Father of a lot of Fantasy Concepts that everyone associates with the genre, while he might not have "Invented" them, I think he's one of the reasons Orcs, Elves, etc are so popular and he probably is the reason a lot of similar themes are still around today.

What's not to like, Demons, Dragons, Gods, Monsters, and Wizards.

Game Fantasy.. I guess Mass Effect? I can't really think if you could consider that Fantasy, maybe it'll be true in 1000 years

#4 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

Fire Emblem and its glorious medieval war epics will always be a favorite for me, but right now, I'm particularly enjoying the rich mythical world of Xenoblade.

#5 Posted by MildMolasses (3221 posts) -

Witcher and the Malazan series by Steven Erickson

#6 Edited by Nightriff (5093 posts) -

Loved Dragon Age as well, really got into the first game lore.

But my favorite, I love everything about the Metal Gear Universe, just fantastic and crazy as I could want it. Used to love Resident Evil pre 5 but then it just went stupid......er than it was before.

EDIT: I also started reading the Witcher book before I start the games and the universe is fascinating, can't wait to play the games.

#7 Edited by Sparky_Buzzsaw (6206 posts) -

It doesn't get much better for me than Arthurian mythology, which I studied like crazy in college (which is likely part of why I'm unemployed today). But I love me some Tolkien, Robert Jordan, and Tad Williams (especially Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn). They were (or are, in the case of Williams) master world-builders.

As far as games, I think Dragon Age has some fantastic world-building, and I hope we get to see more of that in the next game. I also tend to enjoy the lore and world-building in the Elder Scrolls games.

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#8 Posted by TheHT (11300 posts) -

Tolkien stuff. Nothing else sets my imagination off quite like Middle-Earth lore does.

#9 Edited by _Zombie_ (1462 posts) -

Elder Scrolls is my definitive favorite.

#10 Posted by ToTheNines (723 posts) -

probably D&D Forgotten Realms. Without having played the pen and paper, I just really enjoy the lore in the isometric games like Baldurs Gate and Neverwinter Nights.

#11 Posted by ArtisanBreads (3860 posts) -

The Witcher and the Conan universe are the most interesting to me. I prefer some dark fantasy and low fantasy over high, personally.

#12 Edited by FriendlyPhoenix (418 posts) -

I've gotten way into the Dragon Age and Elder Scrolls lores. I also really like the world of the Witcher.

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#13 Posted by s10129107 (1183 posts) -

I like the Legacy of Kain lore.

#14 Edited by Nodima (1211 posts) -

I can't really think of one, there's never been something where I read the core work and then went off to learn more. When I was younger I used to write some really longform fan-fiction books centered around the timeline of Resident Evil 1+2 on the IGN RE forums. But there's no lore I have any deep, abiding knowledge of. Game of Thrones seems awesome but I'd never read the books or take a map out and try to figure out how these characters get where they go, and Lord of the Rings were great reads but I'm not actually that interested in that world, just the characters and situations.

I do really, really respect what Bioware did with Mass Effect, though.

Hmm, can I nominate Xenogears? Because I'd still rank what Xenosaga turned out to be as the greatest disappointment from my childhood that wasn't actually all that serious or important to me.

#15 Edited by Sinusoidal (1520 posts) -

Steven Erikson's Malazan books without a doubt. His world-building is second-to-none. Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy is worth a mention as well, though it's no where near the scope of Erikson's work. Why Martin gets all the acknowledgement awash in a sea of authors better than him, I'll never know.

#16 Posted by wemibelec90 (1673 posts) -

I've never really gone in hard on any kind of fiction. Reading a couple of the Warcraft books recently has made me want to return to Warcraft 3 and WoW though.

#17 Posted by Rick_Fingers (524 posts) -

Wheel of Time. Nothing else like it

#18 Posted by stryker1121 (1454 posts) -

Love how Elder Scrolls, Tolkein, Sword of Ice N Fire lore ties in with the ongoing story, Continuity, people. If you like Elder Scrolls lore, check out this guy's podcasts. They're great.

#19 Posted by PandaBear (1376 posts) -

The Wire

#20 Posted by Demoskinos (14851 posts) -

I recently bought this book:

And it reminded me how much I really enjoy the Dragon Age lore. I've read the novels and most of the comics, and I love the way their history mirrors the history and cultures of Europe. And I enjoy the individual personalities of the races and cultures (Ferelden is my favorite).

But fantasy lore is a lot like taco bell food. A lot of it has the exact same ingredients, just repacked and prepared in such a way that it can change the flavor of the whole thing. So I'm curious what people's consider their favorite fantasy lore. I mean there are tons of options to choose from Warcraft, Diablo, Elder Scrolls, The Witcher, Secret of Mana etc. So what's your favorite lore?

HOLY FUCK. I did not know that exists! I need to buy that! Is it just one huge lore book I'm guesing?

#21 Posted by joshwent (2209 posts) -

Magic the Gathering? The setup rationalizing the gameplay is pretty cool.

Okay... I'll leave.

#22 Posted by byrjun (154 posts) -
#23 Edited by MarkWahlberg (4605 posts) -

The world(s) from the His Dark Materials trilogy comes to mind. Steampunk, but not, like, bullshit steampunk. Fun steampunk.

#24 Posted by Tru3_Blu3 (3206 posts) -

I love The Elder Scrolls lore, but then again I've yet to experience anything else quite like it or surpassing it as I'm not a very bookish individual.

#25 Posted by wallee321 (81 posts) -

While exceeding long and over blown I really like the Wheel of Time series, I felt like it subverted the established Tolkien tropes. It felt like most of the characters actions were reasonable enough and realistic. I don't know what happened, but today it seems like most people on message boards or book reviews despise the basic premise of the series though. That seems kind of stupid to me; everything starts off with some stereotypes and tropes what's important is how well developed and executed the narrative ends up being.

I'm liking the First Law series, right now I'm on book 3 of the main series. It has some magic, but few and far between. It likes to play with stereotypes and how X type of characters are 'suppose' to act.

#26 Posted by crithon (3276 posts) -

muppets, dark crystal, labrynth or storyteller. Actually Terry Jones and Terry Pratchett style writing also.

#27 Posted by FourWude (2261 posts) -

Conan the Barbarian is awesome fantasy.

#28 Posted by Fattony12000 (7432 posts) -

Loreful Evil.

#29 Edited by Tennmuerti (8113 posts) -
  • Fantasy lore that stems mostly from games? - Warcraft
  • Fantasy lore that has a lot of games based around it but didn't originate there? - Forgotten Realms (runner up Witcher)
  • Fantasy lore outside games? - that's a whole other ballpark, league and conversation

They're just very different categories that can't be compared on equal footing imo

#30 Posted by Outbr3ak (19 posts) -

40 fucking K.

#31 Posted by Village_Guy (2582 posts) -

I'm a sucker for Warcraft lore.

#32 Posted by IIGrayFoxII (304 posts) -

@fourwude: @artisanbreads: I am curious as to what you recommend (either comics or novels) to get started in the Conan Universe. Any suggestions?

#33 Posted by SunBroZak (1118 posts) -

I like the Harry Potter world, but that's mainly due to growing up with the books and not the lore itself.

In terms of video-games, I'm really intrigued by Dishonored's world. Sure, it's no Elder Scrolls in terms of scale, but I definitely want to see more of that universe.

#34 Posted by FourWude (2261 posts) -

@iigrayfoxii: You must conquer your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women.

Only then will you be ready.

#35 Posted by Nasar7 (2688 posts) -

The various Icelandic Sagas are incredible stories. Fact > fiction.

#36 Posted by Morningstar (2166 posts) -

The Discworld of course.

#37 Edited by Veektarius (4844 posts) -

I was going to say the Wheel of Time and 40k when I came in here, and then @sparky_buzzsaw mentioned the Arthurian Mythology. That's definitely the one for me. A big part of that, I suppose, is that no one's bothered to make a game that makes the most of it. Why? It's fucking amazing, it's the first great story of Anglo-Saxon culture. The sword in the stone, the unification of the realm, the fucking quest for the Holy Grail, the final battle with Mordred. Every attempt at a King Arthur game to this point (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) has been some woeful misappropriation of the characters for a generic fantasy setting. (That King Arthur role-playing war game wasn't generic, but the rest of the statement still stands).

#38 Posted by SamStrife (1282 posts) -

The Discworld of course.

Of course.

Discworld, The Witcher and Warcraft. All three offer something different and are pretty darn fantastic in their own rights.

#39 Posted by BBAlpert (1478 posts) -

I love Warhammer Fantasy for its diehard dedication to being completely fucking shameless with it's goofy-ass appropriation and reinterpretation of cultural tropes and historical figures. With maybe a few exceptions, there aren't really any factions that aren't directly based on some country's folklore or customs. Some examples (from memory, so these may not be 100% accurate) include:

  • The Araby, a land out in the deserts where the people have made great strides in poetry and mathematics. They also have flying carpets and djinn and scimitars and all that shit.
  • The Norse, from the frozen land of Norsca, a group of sea-faring explorers, traders, and warriors that run around with horned helmets and axes and totally aren't Vikings we swear.
  • Vampire lords from a country called "Sylvania"
  • Fucking mummies
  • Guys that are so Goddamned Italian I can't even begin to describe them
  • Lizard people that live the jungles and mountains of a far-off continent that's totally not America (discovered by an explorer named Marco Columbo). They've got big stepped pyramids and sacrifices and a whole lot of x's in their names and they're certainly not one big mash-up of Incan, Mayan, and Aztec stereotypes.
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#40 Posted by Rafaelfc (1349 posts) -

Lord of the Rings.

And i'll probably be mocked to hell for it, but whatever, I really enjoy Harry Potter's fiction and lore

#41 Edited by ArtisanBreads (3860 posts) -

@iigrayfoxii said:

@fourwude: @artisanbreads: I am curious as to what you recommend (either comics or novels) to get started in the Conan Universe. Any suggestions?

This book is excellent:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Coming-Conan-Cimmerian-Adventures/dp/0345461517/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1380810818&sr=8-6&keywords=conan

And there are a couple other collections to check out after. The original stories really are amazing reads, great fun. I enjoy their one off nature while still expanding on a single universe.

#42 Posted by Karmosin (217 posts) -

I'd probably say Planescape. So weird but fantastic and original setting.

#43 Posted by arg3n7um (67 posts) -

Im a sucker for most lore. The only one that I never really got interested in was D&D lore (although I played D&D throughout college). Recently I have been reading up on Warhammer 40k. If I had to pick a favorite, it would probably be Shadowrun.

#44 Posted by TheFreeMan (2712 posts) -

@fourwude: @artisanbreads: I am curious as to what you recommend (either comics or novels) to get started in the Conan Universe. Any suggestions?

The Dark Horse Conan series is great, a lot of fun and it has really killer art, which really brings some of the adaptations to life. Marvel's Savage Sword of Conan is also amazing, really great, pulpy, black and white reads with awesome art and a great sense for adapting the original stories. Both have been collected into trade paperbacks almost in their entirety, I believe, and are pretty lengthy, like, Savage Sword is over 200 issues long. The original stories by Robert E. Howard are fantastic reads and the best place to start. I haven't read much of any the other novels or short stories written by anybody other than REH, though.

#45 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11756 posts) -

The Wheel of Time gets points from me for sheer breadth and excruciating amount of detail. If we're talking video games, then sure, I think Dragon Age has some decent Fantasy lore. They borrow a bit too much from A Song of Ice and Fire for my tastes, but yeah.

#46 Posted by SoldierG654342 (1766 posts) -

Probably Demon's Souls. I really want to read a book about Latria.

#47 Posted by MormonWarrior (2593 posts) -

I actually usually hate fantasy worlds but I like a lot of the stories/games within them. Demon's Souls/Dark Souls (technically not related) have really pretty dumb story stuff, but the atmosphere, enemy design and gameplay are so good it doesn't matter. The Legend of Zelda is one of my favorite game series and I hate linking (ha!) all the games together on some sort of connected world or timeline. Mass Effect was super awesome (sci-fi I guess...) until the end of the third game...I dunno, I especially hate medieval stuff but there's cool things that come out of those sometimes. I actually enjoyed Lord of the Rings when I read the books recently, which was surprising.

#48 Posted by fisk0 (4129 posts) -

I love Stephen Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant universe. There has only ever been one game made based on it though, The Land, and it was unauthorized. I'd love to see the day CD Project manages to grab the rights to make games based on it though.

#49 Edited by Dimi3je (325 posts) -

I recently read Book of Cain (Diablo) and it was full of awesome. I also love Star Wars, Dune, Witcher and Dragon age lore.