But.....Santana sucks....

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#1 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -

I mean he REALLY does, theres no innovation whatsoever in the 30 years he's been playing, his 10 minute solos consist of literally 3 or 4 notes over and over again, theres only so many times he can bend his e string (or orange button :p) before it just sounds repetitive as hell!

Of all the guitarists to put in a GH game, a man that did a song with Sean fucking Paul is NOT one of them!!

#2 Posted by JeffGoldblum (3694 posts) -

I think Lonely Island may disagree...

  

#3 Posted by Drebin_893 (2891 posts) -

You're wrong.


Good. Day.
#4 Posted by Megalon (1392 posts) -

Well, please inform us of who doesn't suck so we can be as rad as you obviously are.

#5 Posted by VWGTI (1919 posts) -

Hey guys. Creed is awesome.

#6 Posted by Snipzor (3317 posts) -

... I agree.


*runs away really fast*
#7 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

no you suck good day sir

#8 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -

U wanna know who's good? Joe Satriani, Tom Morello, Kirk Hammett, Yngwie Malmsteen, Olli Tukiainen, Padge, Slash, Corey Beaulieu....pretty much anyone who can play more than what the average primary school kid can play.


Now I invite you to justify why Santana should be in GH5...
#9 Posted by Drebin_893 (2891 posts) -

Joe Satriani - Decent


Tom Morello - Amazing, one of the greatest of all time.

Kirk Hammett - No.

Yngwie Malmsteen - Give me a break, he can play fast. Terrible.

Ollie Tukiainen - Decent

Padge - Decent

Slash - Good, but massively over-rated

Corey Beaulieu - OK.
#10 Posted by JJOR64 (18882 posts) -
@Drebin_893 said:
"Tom Morello - Amazing, one of the greatest of all time."
They should put his GH3 guitar battle song on GH5.  That song was awesome.
#11 Posted by 71Ranchero (2671 posts) -

I have to agree, kinda. Old Santana is OK, just OK. Anything from his Rob Thomas era stuff is garbage though.


Honestly the guy has talent. He plays a mean guitar, but should he be in GH? Well thats upto the user. For me I would have rather seen Steve Vai. If you are a Santana fan then good for you though, enjoy =)
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#12 Posted by TheGreatGuero (9130 posts) -

Dude, you've crossed the line. No more talking. Santana is the man. I cannot wait for this game. I think I'm more excited for this than Guitar Hero: Van Halen. I think it's pretty much guaranteed I'll be buying this one shortly after its release. Bring on the "Oye Como Va". Oh yeah.

#13 Posted by Bucketdeth (8003 posts) -
@Drebin_893 said:
" Joe Satriani - Decent

Tom Morello - Amazing, one of the greatest of all time.

Kirk Hammett - No.

Yngwie Malmsteen - Give me a break, he can play fast. Terrible.

Ollie Tukiainen - Decent

Padge - Decent

Slash - Good, but massively over-rated

Corey Beaulieu - OK.
"
Buckethead - GOD. hehe I know tons of people would disagree though ; )
But I do agree on all of your points, Kirk = same shit over and over, Yngwie is good but can get sloppy and only plays fast, plus is cocky as hell.

#14 Posted by Drebin_893 (2891 posts) -

Samba Pa'Ti.


Fuck. Yes.
#15 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@Drebin_893: Yngwie can play very fast, and that USED 2 b what GH was about, a good challenge for the devotees aswell as awesome songs we all know and love. But now we have Coldplay getting involved and 1 of the most technically unimpressive guitarists ever aswell. I'm not disagreeing that its gonna b fun 2 see what his solo tune is, but when theres so many other guitarists they could have put in this game, its insane.

And unless you're goin for the 'hate Metallica coz I think its cool' thing, why is Hammett a no? Can YOU play half the stuff he has produced? I think not
#16 Edited by Drebin_893 (2891 posts) -
@ShalashaskaUK666 said:
" @Drebin_893: Yngwie can play very fast, and that USED 2 b what GH was about, a good challenge for the devotees aswell as awesome songs we all know and love. But now we have Coldplay getting involved and 1 of the most technically unimpressive guitarists ever aswell. I'm not disagreeing that its gonna b fun 2 see what his solo tune is, but when theres so many other guitarists they could have put in this game, its insane.

And unless you're goin for the 'hate Metallica coz I think its cool' thing, why is Hammett a no? Can YOU play half the stuff he has produced? I think not
"

Honestly enough, I actually can, I'd say about 3/4's I can play. I only like the Pr-Black Album Metallica.
And playing fast isn't what Guitar Hero was about. The first Guitar Hero was just about playing amazing guitar songs.
#17 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@Drebin_893: Haha me 2 actually but I still think he's much better than Santana, surely if you play 4 realz then you MUST be able to see my point? Plus on the song front they seem to be trying to 'out Rock Band' Rock Band
#18 Posted by Drebin_893 (2891 posts) -

Yeah, I totally get what you mean.

Technically he is better, I'm just not that into metal, but I completely respect him as a guitarist :)
#19 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

I hate guitar nerds.

#20 Posted by Drebin_893 (2891 posts) -
@HandsomeDead said:
" I hate guitar nerds. "

I hate your mum nerds!
OH!
#21 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@Drebin_893: 'Yeah, I totally get what you mean' Man I freakin love th GB community!! I dont think anyone has EVER said that on GFaqs lol! As 4 HandsomeDead, I'm proud to be a guitar nerd!
#22 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -
@ShalashaskaUK666 said:
As 4 HandsomeDead, I'm proud to be a guitar nerd! "
Yeah, I can tell.
#23 Posted by 71Ranchero (2671 posts) -

Isnt being a guitar nerd better then just being a nerd?

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#24 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@Atramentous said:
" Isnt being a guitar nerd better then just being a nerd? "
Hell yeh it is!!
#25 Posted by Elazul (1327 posts) -
@Drebin_893 said:
" Joe Satriani - Decent

Tom Morello - Amazing, one of the greatest of all time.

Kirk Hammett - No.

Yngwie Malmsteen - Give me a break, he can play fast. Terrible.

Ollie Tukiainen - Decent

Padge - Decent

Slash - Good, but massively over-rated

Corey Beaulieu - OK.
"
I agree with your general sentiment, but come on man, Tom Morello is not a very good guitarist.
#26 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1733 posts) -
@ShalashaskaUK666: Dude what? You say Santana sucks, and the mention a bunch of terrible guitarists. Who the hell made you the expert?

What about Page? What about Hendrix? What about Gilmour? What about Clapton?
#27 Posted by Dauragon (554 posts) -

Aw come on like you never played through a song you didn't like in guitar hero.

I hate the majority of the junk on guitar hero 3 but I still had tons of fun playing it.

#28 Posted by regularassmilk (1375 posts) -
@Megalon said:
" Well, please inform us of who doesn't suck so we can be as rad as you obviously are. "

#29 Posted by regularassmilk (1375 posts) -

And you know what, has anyone EVER heard of Frank Zappa?
He is really one of the most talented guitarists of all time.
He never gets any credit though.

#30 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

Guitar nerd? I guess having a hobby and a skill makes people nerds now.

#31 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -
@CL60 said:
" Guitar nerd? I guess having a hobby and a skill makes people nerds now. "
I guess being overly defensive and petty minded makes people cool. Oh, snap.
#32 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@CL60 said:
" Guitar nerd? I guess having a hobby and a skill makes people nerds now. "
Thankyou!! 
As for th guy saying the people I listed are 'terrible guitarists', read my lips, 'FUCK YOU', if you are seriously saying that Santana is up there with Page and Hendrix, then you need your head examined, as you might actually be mentally ill.
#33 Posted by Drebin_893 (2891 posts) -
@ShalashaskaUK666 said:
" @CL60 said:
" Guitar nerd? I guess having a hobby and a skill makes people nerds now. "
Thankyou!! 
As for th guy saying the people I listed are 'terrible guitarists', read my lips, 'FUCK YOU', if you are seriously saying that Santana is up there with Page and Hendrix, then you need your head examined, as you might actually be mentally ill.
"
The man is half right. You simply can't say the guitarists he listed are terrible, you can say you don't like them, but you can't say they are terrible.
Although, man. Some people might prefer Santana to Page or Hendrix. I know I prefer him to Page, but I still respect that Page is a better guitarist. Do you know what I mean, am I making any sense? Sorry if not.
#34 Posted by Elazul (1327 posts) -
@ShalashaskaUK666 said:
" @CL60 said:
" Guitar nerd? I guess having a hobby and a skill makes people nerds now. "
Thankyou!! 
As for th guy saying the people I listed are 'terrible guitarists', read my lips, 'FUCK YOU', if you are seriously saying that Santana is up there with Page and Hendrix, then you need your head examined, as you might actually be mentally ill.
"
I think that they were more complaining that you didn't list Hendrix or Page to begin with.
#35 Posted by Lowbrow (840 posts) -
@VWGTI: Oh...Oh god no.
#36 Posted by JonathanMoore (1858 posts) -
@Snipzor said:
" ... I agree.

*runs away really fast*
"
Agreed. *holds on to guys leg why he's running*
#37 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -

Well Hendrix has already been in a GH game b4, so theres not a whole lotta point putting him in again, as 4 Page I would rather they did a full on tribute to Zeppelin in their own game as oppose to just a guitar battle, I think th GH franchise is more suited to the guitarists I mentioned, instead of just saying 'Hendrix FTW!' over and over again. 


#38 Edited by PureRok (4235 posts) -
@CL60 said:
" Guitar nerd? I guess having a hobby and a skill makes people nerds now. "
Well, actually... that's almost the definition of a nerd, minus a few key words.

nerd

–noun Slang.
an intelligent but single-minded person obsessed with a nonsocial hobby or pursuit


Edit: Oh yea, and Santana sucks.
#39 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@PureRok said:
" @CL60 said:
" Guitar nerd? I guess having a hobby and a skill makes people nerds now. "
Well, actually... that's almost the definition of a nerd, minus a few key words.

nerd

–noun Slang.
an intelligent but single-minded person obsessed with a nonsocial hobby or pursuitEdit: Oh yea, and Santana sucks. "
Santana does suck, and remove the nonsocial part :D
#40 Posted by Verdugo (2001 posts) -

I respect Santana's style. He is not really a technical guitarist, but I like his guitar playing very much anyways.

Speaking of guitarists, a few of my favorites include:

Jimmy Page, David Gilmour, Buck Dharma, Kim Thayil, Jerry Cantrell, Jimi Hendrix, AJ Minette, Randy Rhoads, John Petrucci, Mikael Akerfeldt, Buckethead, Joe Satriani, and Steve Vai.


#41 Posted by MementoMori (189 posts) -
@Elazul said:
" @Drebin_893 said:
I agree with your general sentiment, but come on man, Tom Morello is not a very good guitarist. "

THE RIFFS DUDE

FUCKIN POUNDIN
#42 Posted by Fallen189 (4931 posts) -

Guitar virtuoso is uninspiring and boring.

#43 Posted by OmegaPirate (5523 posts) -

More Muse and John Frusciante tbh

#44 Posted by raggedglory (216 posts) -

everyone nose that Ozzy Osborn from Led Zepplin is a better guitarist than Santana, i mean hes a bald and wears those stupid sunglasses all the time

#45 Edited by Asurastrike (2157 posts) -
@JeffGoldblum said:
" I think Lonely Island may disagree...
  
"
God, that is awful.
#46 Posted by Elazul (1327 posts) -
@MementoMori said:
" @Elazul said:
" @Drebin_893 said:
I agree with your general sentiment, but come on man, Tom Morello is not a very good guitarist. "

THE RIFFS DUDEFUCKIN POUNDIN "
I like his riffs just fine, I'm just saying that technically he's not the most talented guitarist in the world.
#47 Posted by raggedglory (216 posts) -

Oh and for the record Santana was formed in 66, making it 43 years, not 30, not that anyone gives a shit

#48 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@Elazul said:
" @MementoMori said:
" @Elazul said:
" @Drebin_893 said:
I agree with your general sentiment, but come on man, Tom Morello is not a very good guitarist. "

THE RIFFS DUDEFUCKIN POUNDIN "
I like his riffs just fine, I'm just saying that technically he's not the most talented guitarist in the world. "
Noooooooo no if you were gona make an argument AGAINST Morello, do NOT talk about his technicality, he is head and shoulders above any other player on the planet when it comes to creating a unique sound and playing style, if you dont think Morello is a good 'technical guitarist' then you're just plain wrong....sorry 
#49 Posted by Elazul (1327 posts) -
@ShalashaskaUK666:

Sorry man, but Morello mostly plays fairly basic pentatonic stuff through a whammy pedal. It's certainly makes for a cool sound, but it's really not very difficult at all.
#50 Posted by ShalashaskaUK666 (515 posts) -
@Roger_Klotz: Bullshit, Disturbed have topped th Billboard 200 three times in a row, they evolve with every new album, Dan Donegan is a much better guitarist than Santana, 43 years just adds further weight to th argument that Santy aint changed whatsoever, that he's been peddling th same shite for all those years and now its in GH!
Besides, my homepage wallpaper has no connection to my ability to distinguish awesome music from not, plus if u wanna b all anal about music taste, my favourite band is Poets Of The Fall, who are from Finland, and are some of the best musicians on th earth right now.
Plus dude, we both hav Monsieur Trujillo in our pictures, why th hell are you tryin 2 start somethin with a fellow Tallica fan?

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