Why Do You Die In Water?

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#1 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -

Yes, I mean, I understand the properties of electricity and water mixing together and whatnot in a normal, real-life situation.  HOWEVER...in Infamous, you ALREADY have electricity running through your body, right?  You're already USED to it!  So, what's the point in dying when you hit the water?  If anything, it should mean that you can use the water as just another weapon at your disposal...right?


Just curious as I was watching the Quick Look and Brad mentioned that you die when you go in the water...but it just doesn't make sense WHY that would happen other than for programming reasons...
#2 Posted by TooWalrus (13206 posts) -

Because you've got a huge metal bionic arm attached to your- wait.

...

Because...electricity?

#3 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

well you said it yourself zap zap and water don't mix well done get over it

#4 Edited by TooWalrus (13206 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
well you said it yourself zap zap and water don't mix well done get over it
Ha, get over it... It'd be cool if you could kill enemies that were in the water with you... or at least kill the fish. Water is the new invisible walls.
#5 Posted by FrankCanada97 (4039 posts) -

Wouldn't the water dispel all the electricity out of his body, draining him of life?

#6 Posted by TooWalrus (13206 posts) -
FrankCanada97 said:
Wouldn't the water dispel all the electricity out of his body, draining him of life?
That kinda makes sense. Your electricity is your life meter, if he can't control his output of energy in the water he could be drained of life... Although you'd think he'd be able to control himself, he IS a super-hero. Water is a lame weakness.
#7 Posted by TheKidNixon (1564 posts) -

Actually, this doesn't make too too much sense. After all, your whole gimmick is that your body is now able to in-take electricty an then expel it like a battery. The problem with jumping into water with electricity is the current it shoots through your body, which really shouldn't hurt Cole. If anything, it should boost him.

#8 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
TooWalrus said:
trophyhunter said: well you said it yourself zap zap and water don't mix well done get over it Ha, get ... [more]
no radiation is the new invisible wall
#9 Posted by TooWalrus (13206 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
TooWalrus said: trophyhunter said: well you said it yourself zap zap and water don't mix well done get over it ... [more]
There's radiation in inFamous???
#10 Posted by jkz (4028 posts) -

Yeah I don't think the water = death wall makes any sense. Wolverine did it too, you see him climbing out of the water all the time, but the instant you fall into water that is over waist deep, you die. I wouldn't really call it a "new" wall though.......hrm

#11 Posted by Mikemcn (6988 posts) -

Because if you jumped into most bodys of water in that game, you wouldnt be able to get out and maybe the design team just didnt have the time to make ladders

#12 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
TooWalrus said:
trophyhunter said: TooWalrus said: trophyhunter said: well you said it yourself zap zap and water don't mix well done get ... [more]
its not, I'm say radiation is the new invisible wall for alot of games like bionic commando and fallout 3
#13 Edited by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
TheKidNixon said:
Actually, this doesn't make too too much sense. After all, your whole gimmick is that your body is now able ... [more]
YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING!!!  All the other responses almost make me believe that *GASP* no one read the OP.  -_-  Fact of the matter is this:  Cole ALREADY has electricity going through his body, shocking him and shit on a regular basis.  Therefore, what the FUCK would it matter if he went into water?!  What would it HONESTLY do?  Just shock him harder?  Riiiiiiight....lol  It just doesn't make ANY sense.
 
Also, if we want to complain about Bionic Commando's lack of swimming as well, I see that as a double-sided blade:  on one hand, you've got a huge metal fucking arm that weighs you down...but on the other hand, YOU HAVE A BIONIC FUCKING ARM...so you would THINK that the fuckers could at LEAST figure out a way for you to be able to swim!!!
#14 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
jakob187 said:
TheKidNixon said: Actually, this doesn't make too too much sense. After all, your whole gimmick is that your body is ... [more]
the arm weights a 1000 pounds that's why he can't jump normally
water + nothing to grab on to = sinking to the bottom of the lake and drowning
#15 Edited by Disgaeamad (1342 posts) -

If anything, I'd have to make a wild guess and say that the water causes him to lose control over the flow of electricity in his body and, similar to how a fuse blows when a certain current is reached, it becomes unable to handle it.

Edit: Ok, this sounds far more idiotic than I expected.

#16 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
jakob187 said: TheKidNixon said: Actually, this doesn't make too too much sense. After all, your whole gimmick is that your ... [more]
Right...but with all that damn technology floating around, it just seems like there would be a way to change that.  Nonetheless, I understand the reasonings behind it, given that Bionic Commando has always been part of Capcom's whole "gimped characters" setup.  Mega Man can't duck, RE characters can't run and shoot, Rad can't swim, Dante can't stop sucking, yadda yadda yadda.

I still don't think that you should die from hitting water in Infamous, though.
#17 Posted by Artemis_D (817 posts) -

Yeah... drop an piece of electrical equipment in a bathtub, then try using it later.  I'm betting it won't work.

#18 Posted by Delta_Ass (3280 posts) -

Cole never learned how to swim.

So, he drowns.

#19 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
jakob187 said:
trophyhunter said: jakob187 said: TheKidNixon said: Actually, this doesn't make too too much sense. After all, your whole gimmick is ... [more]
what about viewiful joe?
#20 Posted by pause422 (6188 posts) -
jakob187 said:
TheKidNixon said: Actually, this doesn't make too too much sense. After all, your whole gimmick is that your body is ... [more]
I have a feeling its 2 things-  1 being, most people just don't even think about it at all like you are doing, and a few others easily observed, a good amount of people just go "electricity and water don't mix, that makes sense", and 2 being, there was just no real reason for them to let you swim around in the water or they didn't feel like/have time to design anything around it since climbing the city and flying around would be the main gameplay other than the action..so they really just wanted to say " No you can't go in the water", and make it look like to most people it should be common sense.
#21 Posted by TheMustacheHero (6655 posts) -

To answer this, 1. Fill a sink up with water 2. Put a toaster in the water 3. Put your hand in the water 4. Put the toaster in a power outlet.

#22 Posted by pause422 (6188 posts) -
TheMustacheHero said:
To answer this, 1. Fill a sink up with water 2. Put a toaster in the water 3. Put your ... [more]
I love how many of you don't pay one bit of attention to the OP and whats being asked. YES, everyone should know unless they're mentally retarded electric and water don't mix, but you're playing as a electricity filled character already..he has electricity running through his body already constantly, getting shocked by it , and probably adapted completely to it, water would not do a thing to hurt you in that case.
#23 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
TheMustacheHero said:
To answer this, 1. Fill a sink up with water 2. Put a toaster in the water 3. Put your ... [more]
Okay, so using the theory that water would end up negating his power...and then knowing that he can SUCK ELECTRICITY OUT OF THE SHIT IN THE CITY TO RECHARGE HIMSELF...how does this theory you've presented before us still work?

Man, maybe I shouldn't have said anything.  This is starting to remind me of the old "are Wolverine's claws implanted or are they part of his mutation?" arguments from back in the day before we knew the answer.

And somehow, it's all come back around to not having electric claws.  Thanks, Vinny.  =  P
#24 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
jakob187 said:
TheMustacheHero said: To answer this, 1. Fill a sink up with water 2. Put a toaster in the water 3. ... [more]
its mutation right? because in some things he has bone claws
#25 Edited by Edgar (182 posts) -
Delta_Ass said:
Cole never learned how to swim. So, he drowns.
This.

But, yeah, I agree. There doesn't appear to be a valid reason for dying in water.
#26 Posted by Claude (16254 posts) -

Maybe in the sequel, the developers will let you swim and fly an electric plane.

#27 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
jakob187 said: TheMustacheHero said: To answer this, 1. Fill a sink up with water 2. Put a toaster in the ... [more]
-_-  Yes, they are part of his mutation.  However, we didn't ALWAYS know this.  Only once Wolverine #75 came around was it PROVEN that he has bone claws.  Fatal Attractions is still one of my favorite story arcs.

I was trying to say that arguing about why Cole can't go in water is LIKE the old arguments of Wolverine's claws.  It's not really going to go anywhere.  I was just wondering why it is that a guy who is now used to electricity running through his entire body wouldn't be able to swim in water...since his entire body can sustain any amount of electrical damage given to it.  Therefore, the law of "throwing something electrical into water will kill a person" doesn't apply to him.

Someone earlier had also mentioned that the water would overcharge him and make him lose his power, but that doesn't make sense because he can recharge himself from anything electrical whenever he feels like it.

Basically...there's no reason Cole can't go in the water.  So why does Cole die if he goes in it?  It doesn't make any sense.  It means that Sucker Punch was too lazy to program that in, and in turn, they created an unnecessary invisible wall.

By all means, it doesn't mean Infamous is a bad game because of it.  It just seems...unnecessary.  That's all.
#28 Posted by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -

gigawat blades there is your electro claws

#29 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
trophyhunter said:
gigawat blades there is your electro claws
Here's the question:  do they look like Wolverine claws or Weapon XI claws?  o.O  Personally, I think they should just be five electrical finger extensions...and you can use them to cut cars in half!!!
#30 Posted by LiquidPrince (15952 posts) -
jakob187 said:
Yes, I mean, I understand the properties of electricity and water mixing together and whatnot in a normal, real-life situation. ... [more]
You would overload and explode. Like physically explode.
#31 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
LiquidPrince said:
jakob187 said: Yes, I mean, I understand the properties of electricity and water mixing together and whatnot in a normal, ... [more]
You couldn't explode!  Does a toaster explode when you put it in water?  NOPE!
#32 Posted by LiquidPrince (15952 posts) -
jakob187 said:
LiquidPrince said: jakob187 said: Yes, I mean, I understand the properties of electricity and water mixing together and whatnot in ... [more]
A toaster doesn't have like a million gigawatts worth of electricity flowing through it.
#33 Posted by Delta_Ass (3280 posts) -
LiquidPrince said:
jakob187 said: LiquidPrince said: jakob187 said: Yes, I mean, I understand the properties of electricity and water mixing together and ... [more]
A toaster also doesn't fly across rooftops fighting monsters.
#34 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
Delta_Ass said:
LiquidPrince said: jakob187 said: LiquidPrince said: jakob187 said: Yes, I mean, I understand the properties of electricity and water mixing ... [more]
I'd like to think that Cole only houses 1.21 jigawatts.  = D  Not a million.

Also, toasters DO flying across rooftops and fight monsters.  I've seen it.  = D
#35 Posted by PeasForFees (2411 posts) -

Great film reference, i liked that film, and he doesn't die instantly he gets this amusing animation and you have to stay in there for about 30 seconds for him to die

#36 Edited by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -
TooWalrus said:
trophyhunter said: well you said it yourself zap zap and water don't mix well done get over it Ha, get ... [more]
You totally can. If you run through a puddle while civillians are standing in it, they'll die.
#37 Posted by TooWalrus (13206 posts) -
get2sammyb said:
TooWalrus said: trophyhunter said: well you said it yourself zap zap and water don't mix well done get over it ... [more]
Ha, awesome. Can't wait to play, hopefully one of my buddies with a PS3 will pick it up soon.
#38 Edited by trophyhunter (5800 posts) -
@jakob187:

#39 Posted by Porridgelad (90 posts) -

i think its because the design team thought swimming wasn't as much fun as flying around the city and playing the game...the explanation may suck but the thought process seems okay.

#40 Posted by Diamond (8634 posts) -

He hates taking baths and showers, the instant he feels any water touching his body he commits suicide by shocking himself to death.

#41 Posted by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -

Think about it like this though - electricity surges through numerous household products right. You drop them in the bath, leave them there for 30 seconds, and then pull them back out, they'll probably cease to work right?

#42 Edited by Agnogenic_delete (1034 posts) -
get2sammyb said:
Think about it like this though - electricity surges through numerous household products right. You drop them in the bath, ... [more]
You drop in anything electronic in water,whether or not it is plugged in/ hascurrent and it won't work.
#43 Posted by VilhelmNielsen (1735 posts) -

Because if they built the entire world, it wouldn't fit on a blu-ray.

#44 Posted by get2sammyb (6412 posts) -
Agnogenic_delete said:
get2sammyb said: Think about it like this though - electricity surges through numerous household products right. You drop them in ... [more]
Exactly my point. Thus, Cole ceases to function when in water. Essentially *MILD SPOILERS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN TRAILERS BUT LOOK AWAY NOW JUST IN CASE* Cole is at the heart of an explosion, he should be dead, but instead gains super powers. Alas, you could argue it's the electric keeping him alive.

Regardless, I think it's pretty obvious why he can't swim. inFamous is all the better for limiting the time-of-day, weather, etc, because it allows them to focus on making stuff right. The "smaller-than-GTA" open-world allowed them to make more areas of it interesting.
#45 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
Diamond said:
He hates taking baths and showers, the instant he feels any water touching his body he commits suicide by shocking ... [more]
Eww...I didn't even think about how dirty of a bastard Cole would be.  Man...your superhero is stinky...especially since he does all that running around and such but never changes clothes.  =  /

Again, you people missed the part where    HE   CAN   RECHARGE  HIMSELF...so it doesn't MATTER if he goes in the water and it ends up causing him to "not work".  Your typical household appliance CAN'T recharge like Cole does.

Man, people just DON'T read!
#46 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
jakob187 said:
Diamond said: He hates taking baths and showers, the instant he feels any water touching his body he commits suicide ... [more]
So what if he can recharge himself? That wouldn't fix a broken appliance. Charging up something that is broken doesn't automatically fix it, I dropped my PSP in a lake before and charging it didn't fix it.
#47 Posted by HandsomeDead (11863 posts) -

I assumed he'd explode because he has all that electricity inside him and he is only flesh at the end of the day so he'd probably burst everywhere.

#48 Posted by Drebin_893 (2917 posts) -
jakob187 said:
Diamond said: He hates taking baths and showers, the instant he feels any water touching his body he commits suicide ... [more]

No, I don't think you get it. It's the electricity that keeps him alive, if he's starved of electricity he ceases to live. You can't recharge if you're dead.
#49 Posted by jakob187 (21675 posts) -
CL60 said:
jakob187 said: Diamond said: He hates taking baths and showers, the instant he feels any water touching his body he ... [more]
Cole

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PSP!!!

NERD RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#50 Posted by Drebin_893 (2917 posts) -

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