Tell me something, people who played Mass Effect (Spoilers)

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#51 Posted by Undeadpool (4939 posts) -

@Ventilaator: Kaiden was so generic I continuously referred to him as Carth accidentally (as in Carth Onasi from Knights of the Old Republic, who had the same voice actor). If you asked me to do the ol' Plinkett test of describing a character without mentioning their physical appearance or their job, I would be at a COMPLETE loss for Kaiden. Ashley was actually one of the more interesting characters. She was flawed, she wasn't some paragon of perfect virtue. She seemed more REAL.

#52 Posted by Asurastrike (2166 posts) -

She was more interesting than Kaiden, plus I rolled with her in my squad for the entirety of the game.

#53 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -
@Undeadpool said:

@Ventilaator: Kaiden was so generic I continuously referred to him as Carth accidentally (as in Carth Onasi from Knights of the Old Republic, who had the same voice actor). If you asked me to do the ol' Plinkett test of describing a character without mentioning their physical appearance or their job, I would be at a COMPLETE loss for Kaiden. Ashley was actually one of the more interesting characters. She was flawed, she wasn't some paragon of perfect virtue. She seemed more REAL.

Space racist sympathizer.
#54 Posted by Galiant (2193 posts) -

I needed Kaidan to take care of the fucking bomb, because Ashley is an idiot.

#55 Posted by Spoonybard37 (300 posts) -

Ashley was a prick so she got the boot...the permanent boot...

#56 Edited by Undeadpool (4939 posts) -

@xobballox: Mediocre character character sympathizer?

Edit: In all seriousness, I'd rather have a character I dislike in my party than one I feel literally nothing for.

#57 Posted by TorMasturba (1094 posts) -

@stringbacon said:

The space-racism works in her favor for me. It gives her a personality that I can remember long after I finished Mass Effect. Kaiden has nothing that makes him stand out to me. All I remember was that he used biotics.

They both stood out to me as flawed human beings, one with a hatred or ignorance that has been built in from Childhood but also loves her family. The other had a bad childhood, pretty given away by his parents and adopted by a very strict school for biotics he show's you what it was like to be a biotic around in the early human biotic development days, since you have no perspective of this time as a character I found this interesting.

#58 Posted by Turambar (6784 posts) -

She was a bigoted bitch, but also far more interesting than Kaidan.  I hated her, but was also completely uninterested by Kaidan.

#59 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -
@Undeadpool said:

@xobballox: Mediocre character character sympathizer?

Edit: In all seriousness, I'd rather have a character I dislike in my party than one I feel literally nothing for.

:(
 
I usually would agree with that, but everything about Ashley just made me hate her completely as a character and I hated it every time she spoke.
#60 Posted by WarlordPayne (700 posts) -

Every time Kaiden opened his mouth all I could think of was Carth, and I really hated Carth, so Kaiden had to die.

#61 Posted by CaptainTightPants (2834 posts) -

Its funny really. I hated Ashley because of her character, and I hated Kaiden due to what I felt was a lack of character.

#62 Edited by Yorick (235 posts) -
@Resident4t said:

Its funny really. I hated Ashley because of her character, and I hated Kaiden due to what I felt was a lack of character.


This
#63 Posted by darksan00 (71 posts) -

I never liked kaidan. He was way too meh imo.

#64 Posted by Undeadpool (4939 posts) -

@xobballox said:

@Undeadpool said:

@xobballox: Mediocre character character sympathizer?

Edit: In all seriousness, I'd rather have a character I dislike in my party than one I feel literally nothing for.

:( I usually would agree with that, but everything about Ashley just made me hate her completely as a character and I hated it every time she spoke.

Again, though, you felt SOMEthing. I think it's gutsy of Bioware to include characters you're not necessarily going to like in your party. Like in Baldur's Gate or KotoR (both 1 and 2), you can have characters that are straight-up evil in your party.

#65 Posted by DEMONOLOGY_24 (521 posts) -

Lets just agree that all the Human characters in that game sucked so picking which one was like picking between a rock and a hard place
#66 Edited by SteamPunkJin (1286 posts) -

I've let them both die and survive numerous times, usually it has to do with 'who' my Shepard is. 
Hard-ass no-nonsense Infiltrator Shep will pick Ashely cause she's got more balls. 
Empathetic and self-sacrificing Adept Shep will pick Kaiden cause the universe doesn't need any more bigots, and besides, Shep and Kaiden -are- evolution (biotics), Ashely is a relic of the past. Advance the species.

#67 Posted by Ghostiet (5272 posts) -
@SteamPunkJin said:
I've let them both die and survive numerous times, usually it has to do with 'who' my Shepard is.  Hard-ass no-nonsense Infiltrator Shep will pick Ashely cause she's got more balls.  Empathetic and self-sacrificing Adept Shep will pick Kaiden cause the universe doesn't need any more bigots, and besides, Shep and Kaiden -are- evolution (biotics), Ashely is a relic of the past. Advance the species.
Sounds like your empathetic, self-sacrificing Shepard is fucking Renegade, dude.
#68 Posted by Bass (692 posts) -

Both characters are ultimately unlikable. Ashley is a total bitch and Kaiden is about as interesting as a blank sheet of paper. Saved Kaiden, but I don't intend on using him when I finally play ME2 (in the mail!).

#69 Posted by the_great_skenardo (110 posts) -

I was under the mistaken impression that saving Kaidan was the only way to also save the Salarian strike force, and I kind of liked those guys. Otherwise my femShep would have chosen Ash because she is also a chew-up-nails-and-spit-out-staples kind of hardass.

I didn't mind the spacism so much; she was professional about it and took orders just fine. Kaidan felt bland to me, although I enjoyed listening to his summary of missions a'la Joker.

#70 Posted by TobbRobb (4647 posts) -

Who? Oh right, the humies. I don't even remember who I saved. They were equally boring characters.

#71 Posted by CitizenKane (10506 posts) -

Because of that ass:

#72 Posted by Gamer_152 (14078 posts) -

I'd like to give some kind of thoughtful moral justification to why I saved Ashley but it just basically came down to the fact that I liked her more. Her xenophobia was a bit of an issue for me, but I thought she was an interesting character whereas Kaiden just seemed like a fairly normal guy to me. If Kaiden had been that unaccepting of the idea of sacrificing himself for the good of the mission it might have been a different story, but as it was saving Ashley just seemed like the more appealing prospect.

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#73 Posted by CosmicQueso (569 posts) -

The aliens want to wipe humans out. Ashley hates aliens. My FemShep hates aliens too. And Wrex really deserved to die. So, save Ashley, humans survive and run the galaxy. Win.

#74 Posted by Agent47 (1896 posts) -
@Ventilaator: I saved Kaiden I can't stand Ashley racist, bitchy attitude.Reminded too much of real life chicks.The only reason I can think alot of players saved her is cause she has tits.But ugh I happily chased after Kaiden with Ashely gone the story moved alot smoother.
#75 Posted by Agent47 (1896 posts) -
@BirdkeeperDan: Kaiden whine?All Ashley did was bitch about other aliens on the ship and showed how racist she was then give that ANNOYING speech when you try to save her in ME2, I'm glad she didn't come with Shepard on board I probably would of launched her into space if I could.Ashley is way worse.
#76 Posted by Pumpe (70 posts) -

I saved Ashley in all my level 60 playthroughs. Not that I didnt like Kaiden: a normal guy with some trauma.
Ashley is more to bring drama to the story (as I automatically end up as paragon and ignore what species you are from).
 
First ME run I did it for the tits and ass. Kaiden doesnt have them.
 
I should really embark on a space voyage sometime early next year and get a 60 playthrough with a living Kaiden.

#77 Posted by DillonWerner (1528 posts) -

Save Kaidan, you can get with him in Mass Effect 3. And he voiced Carth in KOTOR 

#78 Posted by Linkster7 (1025 posts) -

Kaiden has the honor of being the only mass effect character that I did not talk to at all after the first hours.

It's so long ago but I remember just hating him so.

Loved saving Ashly and letting that bastard fry.

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