maybe we're all being trolled here
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Game » consists of 19 releases. Released Sep 01, 2015
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- Xbox One
- PC
- PlayStation 4
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- PlayStation 3
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The final main entry in the Metal Gear Solid series bridges the events between Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker and the original Metal Gear, as Big Boss wakes up from a nine-year coma in 1984 to rebuild his mercenary paradise.
Kiefer Sutherland Is Now Solid Snake
I assumed they were going to get another no name video game actor. They got Jack mother fucking Bauer. This is going to be good.
David Hayter isn't the "previous voice of Snake". Hayter is still the voice of
Solid
Snake, a character who is not in this game. Keifer Sutherland is the voice of Big Boss, aka
Naked
Snake, who
is
in this game. They are two different characters. They even talk to each other in MGS4, where Big Boss was, again, not voiced by David Hayter.
It blows my mind that there are people sharp enough to keep up with Metal Gera's convoluted plot but can't get their heads around the idea that these are two different characters, ergo two different voices. Keifer is the new voice of Big Boss; David Hayter is, by all accounts, still the voice of Solid Snake.
Everyone seems to be saying this but Hayter played Naked Snake/Big Boss in multiple Metal Gear games. Portable Ops, Peace Walker, and lest we forget Metal Gear Solid 3 the only exception being Metal Gear 4. Its not that people can't get their heads around the idea of two characters with different voices, its that Hayter is and has been both Snakes consistently through the franchise. Which is why the fans are bummed/angered at the fact Hayter won't be reprising his role.
Hayter is and has been both Snakes consistently through the franchise. Which is why the fans are bummed/angered at the fact Hayter won't be reprising his role.
It would be really difficult to follow cutscenes featuring two identical dudes who share the same voice in Metal Gear Solid 6: Metal Gear Solid.
Hang on, we knew this ages ago. Kiefer Sutherland was in the trailer back when we only knew it as "The Phantom Pain".
@swaney: Do you really believe Kojima went and got Kiefer Sutherland to pretend he's gonna voice Snake in the next MGS in a fake announcement video at an attempt to arrange an ELABORATE RUSE? That's insane.
Thinking it through like that, yeah, it sounds insane. But if Kiefer is portraying someone else in the game? Not so much.
I'm not saying Kiefer Sutherland
won't
play Big Boss, but remember, this is Kojima we're talking about. The studio put together quite a bit of fake MGS2 footage to fool everyone with the reveal of Raiden. He's a master troll! ;)
I still think this is more of a prank. I mean we knew Sutherland was in it, he voices the character thats not Snake in the demo, meaning he was at least available to take part. They tell us he is the new voice, yet still fail to provide even a snippet of Snake talking ingame, plus Avi Arad was the one that introduced Sutherland to Kojima...but Arad is friends with Hayter, as they worked on the X-Men films together. This also seems like the kinda thing that would be announced live at E3, not a pre recorded 10 minute video before E3.
This is fucking ridiculous, but I'm almost... goddamn it. If this turns out to be the ruse to ruse all ruses. ....Fucking Kojima. No fucking way. This already went way too far. I don't know what to think anymore.
Nah, no way. He can't do this. It's not right.
#TeamCG
Believe.
I bet kiefer sutherland is big boss and hayter will still voice solid snake.
Big boss was voiced by someone else in MGS4 so it only makes sense that another voice actor plays him in MGS5, specially since MGS5 is in the era where solid snake could make an appearance in.
As long as solid snake is still voiced by hayter, im totally cool with this.
Well Hayter has been hinting at this for awhile, but in a tongue in cheek way that hints it could very well be a rouse. I wouldn't expect him to be upset anyway considering he had expressed doubts he could return as he had trouble doing the original Snake voice back when MGS3 was coming out.
It's not really getting fired though right? Isn't it more like he wasn't hired for it?
Depends. Some of these guys have contracts to do certain voices. Like that guy what does Mario will probably be voicing Mario for the rest of his natural life and then some. We don't know the details though. He may just have expected to get it because he's the guy.
@spitznock said:
I think I'm one of the few die hard Metal Gear fans that isn't at all bothered by the change. Love my man Hayter but it's not like he's going to be out on the streets now. Plus if you're going to replace him, Kiefer Sutherland is a pretty damn good choice.
Can't wait for more Metal Gear!
^^^ This.
I'm sure he'll do a bang-up job. People just want to complain.
Also: To the people going "Durr you're an idiot, Patrick. He isn't going to be Solid Snake; he'll be Big Boss."... you get the idea. Hayter voiced Big Boss as well as Solid Snake. They may as well be the same person. Stop being dicks.
It's a very valid thing to complain about; that voice is the character. The character of Snake. If Old Snake is making such a big transition that he is becoming Big Boss, then it makes sense for his voice to change. It's allayed my fears for now, just knowing that it's not Solid Snake.
One thing to keep in mind here: the Japanese voice actor for Snake was NOT replaced. All this talk about changing directions and whatever else is a steaming load. Japanese Snake in MGS5 will sound the same as he has in MGS1, 2, 3 and 4. This is perhaps what upsets me the most, the misdirection and deceiving from Kojima and Konami. Something fishy is going on.
Yeahhhhhh...
So...Been a huge Metal Gear Solid fan for 14 years.
Annnnnnnd, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. This series has been gradually disappearing up its own ass since after MGS3. Sure it was heading that way with some of MGS2, but MGS3 was a thorough course correction and MGS4 was a decent follow up. But it [MGS4] began a shift that has ultimately transformed these games into not being the series I fell in love with. Getting rid of Hayter is bad enough, but the reasoning - that they wanted to use an actor who could also mo-cap the character - is asinine.
And even if it is a massive troll...I've had just about enough of that shit from Hideo Kojima. It was funny the first few times, but now it's just getting to be fucking annoying. So this stands as the tipping point for me even if David mysteriously re-surfaces in the game. Frankly, that'd be worse. It's just rude to constantly dick around with people like this.
So...I'm out. You can keep your new Metal Gear, Konami.
maybe we're all being trolled here
Yeah, I kind of think we are. I thought it was weird that Keifer himself never actually said "I am playing Snake." He kept talking about "the character" and "the game." Maybe he was told to be vague on purpose, so Kojima could use the footage for his crazy trollin'.
I can't quite wrap my head around this. Such a weird change.
Also, the wiki needs a seperate entry for "Keifer Sutherland".
#boycottSutherland
Get it trending.
0/10
no even mad.
One thing to keep in mind here: the Japanese voice actor for Snake was NOT replaced. All this talk about changing directions and whatever else is a steaming load. Japanese Snake in MGS5 will sound the same as he has in MGS1, 2, 3 and 4. This is perhaps what upsets me the most, the misdirection and deceiving from Kojima and Konami. Something fishy is going on.
I imagine this means that the only reason Japanese Snake gets to keep his job is because he's not required to provide facial expressions all of a sudden, since Kiefer Sutherland is going to be doing that for him.
It still seems somewhat disingenuous, though. Old Snake was way beyond his forties, physically, and he didn't feel the need to recast him then. I wont pretend to know the range of Japanese Snake's voice actor, so I'm hoping it's just a way for them to develop Big Boss beyond being a mere copy and paste of Solid Snake.
What the hell is that attached to Snake's head? Maby Kiefer is just playing an evil Snake clone.
They've said that that's a piece of shrapnel or something that gets embedded in his head and causes his coma or whatever.
Kiefer Sutherland is an unbelievable get, and a significant upgrade. What the fuck is wrong with you people...
My vote is for Kurt Russell, the original Snake.
I'd agree with you except for one fact, Kurt Russell is better than the MGS games.
I respect the fact that there trying to evolve a long standing franchise and bring more life to Big Boss. Maybe it's a good idea to bring someone like Kiefer in to do it and it doesn't mean that David can't be involved at a later date possibly bringing a degree of separation between the two snakes, especially if you're introducing this franchise to late comers.
@probablytuna: I think kiefer is a little too old to play snake in any kind of movie.
Youtubed some 24 to freshen up my memory. It'll be immediately different from the voice that became a joke, it'll take forever to get used to, but the gruff tired whiskey-swilled Jack Bauer voice will do the job of a Big Boss that was silent for eight years well. If this material was studied then it seems that Kojima wanted the voice to be in line with the Japanese voice-acting.
@korolev said:
David Hayter better not burn his bridges.
Yeah, I agree. I think there's still a decent chance of him being asked to reprise his role as Solid Snake at some point, but if he isn't careful, he's going to piss off someone and get totally locked out of Metal Gear.
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