Akyho

I bought Stranglehold for £3 I played it until it became a realy bad game. A month later I traded it in to the same shop I bought it. I was given £5. £2 PROFIT!!

@snowninja845 said:

@runcrash said:

What I don't get is why David even bothered slipping Holloway the black ooze. The reason they were there was to meet their makers, I can't fathom how infecting him would help them with that goal.

It was kind of apparent that David was being controlled by Weyland, since he was searching for a way to cheat death (become immortal basically). Although i have no idea why Weyland would think that stuff would make a advancement in his search.

Weyland was probably so eager he said to David "If you think it may help....Do it!" Weyland didnt have much time. So waiting wasnt an option. If he could get it now then he will take it. Didnt matter the price, he took shortcuts to speed up everything. They realy should have been slow to explore the ship. Except David was under orders to do things now, not later.

@believer258 said:

@Akyho said:

@believer258 said:

It's implying that the first one was born from the Space Jockey that died there,

Its actually more complicated than that...Halloway is infected with the black ooze. Which I guess is a biological substance that binds to genetic material and make an aggressive predator. So using the genetic material to adapt to the local life. Halloway was infected with it, he then impregnated Shaw with a fetus made up of his DNA which is 100% match for Space Jockey/Engineer DNA...while also made up of the Black ooze that changed genetics. Which later it turns out to be a Giant killer squid? which it then impregnates a Space Jockey and the theory of Aliens for years. Is they take on a certain amount of Genetic material and traits from their host. Why the Alien in Alien 3 is more Dog like and not as smart as previous Aliens.

So the final Proto Alien burst from the Space Jockey almost fully formed. So its made up of Bio goo....that has human DNA fused with human DNA and then fused with Space Jockey DNA which is...human DNA......

My question was more along the lines of "how the fuck did that alien get on LV426 when the movie doesn't even take place there?"

You don't make a lick of sense.

Like I said....its even more complicated than simply "How the first alien we know, burst out of the Pilot in Alien." With the genesis of the alien being complicated, before it is explained in other upcoming films. They are trying to make the other two films to explain that. We dont know right now.

And @Meowshi makes a very good point. The pilot in Alien could is just a suit. For all we know Shaw goes to the LV-426 and has the Alien burst out of her while in the pilot seat. We simply dont know.

@CakeBomb said:

As an Alien nut, this movie was good but way too confusing. It was like an omelet of elements bubbling around, none of them explained or developed to make any sense.

Why did the black goo do to them? Why vases and not eggs? Why an octopus-like facehugger that grew to room size? Why was the Engineer immediately hostile? Where did the alien that escaped when they rolled over the body go? So many things left unfinished. It's a movie I'd like to see with exclusive Ridley audio commentary, to understand something.

On a side note, watched Alien today and that movie still holds up, even with the retro-futuristic aesthetic.

The black goo is a primordial ooze of sorts. A biological agent that when it comes into contact with other life, alters the DNA and makes a viscous predator, the perfect killer. Biological weapons that will wipe out the planet by eating and killing everything. No food no life. The vases were just containers for the vials of ooze. Eggs were never meant to be on the ship, more so the creatuer that lays them hasn't been created.

Octopus like facehugger and the alien snake. Just random creations based on the initial DNA?

Engineer being hostile, well if they knew what earth was and the human life. They were going to wipe out that life, only to find humans have developed enough and is on his ship. They might be ready to kill him? To him they were at war already?

I as well watched Alien again and still a very good film. All the effects and style hold up...except one thing...the green print on black with Mothers screen. That is he only thing that dates from 79.

@runcrash said:

What I don't get is why David even bothered slipping Holloway the black ooze. The reason they were there was to meet their makers, I can't fathom how infecting him would help them with that goal.

I think it was in one part to show David was hurt by Holloway always picking on him for being an Android. Or more so experiment and see if this ooze could make Weyland healthier and immortal. As that was the main part of the mission. Weyland wanted to meet the Engineers and get them to make him immortal.

@believer258 said:

It's implying that the first one was born from the Space Jockey that died there,

Its actually more complicated than that...Halloway is infected with the black ooze. Which I guess is a biological substance that binds to genetic material and make an aggressive predator. So using the genetic material to adapt to the local life. Halloway was infected with it, he then impregnated Shaw with a fetus made up of his DNA which is 100% match for Space Jockey/Engineer DNA...while also made up of the Black ooze that changed genetics. Which later it turns out to be a Giant killer squid? which it then impregnates a Space Jockey and the theory of Aliens for years. Is they take on a certain amount of Genetic material and traits from their host. Why the Alien in Alien 3 is more Dog like and not as smart as previous Aliens.

So the final Proto Alien burst from the Space Jockey almost fully formed. So its made up of Bio goo....that has human DNA fused with human DNA and then fused with Space Jockey DNA which is...human DNA......

@chu52 said:

Soooooo because it was basically Alien (1979), but with a worse monster. Like I had trouble caring because I saw that movie before.

d god.

You missed the point of this film. Feel free to not like the film. However it is not trying to be Alien it is trying to explain Alien and the Alien Pilot. It dosnt matter to you. However to others and like myself I am already vested into the Alien back-story long before this.

I already know alot of the back story to Alien long before Prometheus was announced. So when my friend's surprisingly said "lets got see Prometheus!" I was onboard and made sure they did. They were confused about the film since it was a prequel to Alien...while also it wasn't a Prequel to Alien. As we waited for the showing we sat in McDonalds, I explained its the story of the Space Jockey's. They looked blank at me ofcourse.

Space Jockeys are the master's of Bio engineering who developed the Xenomorph/Alien as the perfect weapon. Something happened to the ship, A face hugger or such implanted the pilot. Its crashed and rolls onto the Nostromo being manipulated to investigate the planet LV-426. Now Weyland-Yutani KNEW about the ship and then set this ship off so it would go close to it and then the Android would change the cords and have it come in contact and find out all the information and bring back a Specimen...as if they KNEW everything.

So half of that story is filled with Alien the movie. I sat down and watched it and when they got the planet I already marked "LV-223" ? Thats not...right. Watched the movie and it all definitely wasn't the same planet and wasn't the same events as to what lead's onto the Nostromo being manipulated. The ship is landed diffrently. The planet is diffrent. And you would thing comes Aliens the colony would have noticed those Space Jockey structures.

So aside from how the a Proto Alien has came about. I know very little extra about the Space Jockeys/Engineers. However to people who are completely not invested as I or other's. This may every well have just blown them on the Space Jockeys.

However as a film without any of this. I still enjoyed it alot.

So what they are saying is "we are going to keep the high prices and just make YOU WANT TO buy it." While steam goes "We make it so cheap, YOU HAVE TO BUY IT!" and so we do....and the hole isnt that deep.

@TheHT said:

I was just about to do that....you beat me to it.

@MikkaQ said:

Suppose we'll need a bow of the year award.

@zyn said:

2013, year of the bow.

Yes we will have to remember for 2013 Awards. To urge Bow of the year award....however we all have short attention spans and will forget it. Also....as people have hinted and my friend pointed out. Year of the Bow is a twitter thing...I dont follow twitter. However without our urging it seems possible the award will happen.

Edit:Ok Jeff on the Bombcast has just said "This is part of something I like to call Year of the Bow, bows of every kind." So I think we are going to get that award.

@Salarn said:

@Akyho: Splinter Cell Blacklist has a crossbow does that count?

Yes that does count.

Gears has Torque bow and as its coming up. its counts.

Avengers game. Yup Hawkeye.

Brave yup thats coming.

Hunger games? if there is one coming up I am ready for that.

There was that Zombie games for the Wii U Zombie U with the SWORDGUNS YO! maby a Bow...SWORD BOW?! Oh wait thats a gun!

Skyrim expansion with CrossBOWS so yeah.

Year of the Bow indeed.

We go so long without many games using bows, we are all waiting for the true Rambo 3 game. Yet now we get 4 or more games that are using bows a lot.

Crysis 3.

Tomb Raider

Far Cry

Assasin Creed

What other games are going to use bows? Last of us?

Lets list the games as they are shown at E3.

Altho....Gunswords?

AND I did spell his name wrong....Mods?

As pointed out by @Salarn someone who is working on the game. Iornside wont be doing that part. As Mocap and voice acting will be at the same time.

Here is an article. @Salarn thre at me.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/06/04/splinter-cell-blacklist-video-michael-ironside/