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@bassman2112 said:
@jesushammer said:

@bassman2112: I'm sorry, but man your taste is just wrong. Anybody that puts SAO and Elfen Lied above FLCL and NGE is just wrong.

That's the cool thing about subjective opinions man, there is no reason for them to be "wrong." This is why people say anime is for jerks, when you make binary statements like that. Here, just to appease your propensity for internet arguments, here is my reasoning:

NGE was bad. Shinji was a horrible character who did nothing but whine for 24 episodes and a movie. Rei was lame. Asuka was cool. The dad gave Shinji a job, and hooked him up with a rad roommate, and shinji just cried 24/7. It was a boring, frustrating show to watch and I think it was utter shit.

FLCL was worthless. Everyone I talked to hyped it up as the greatest thing ever, but it was unwatchable. A kid that spawns robots from the dicks that grow out of his head? Pretty deep, man. Like I said, The Pillows' music is great, the style is good, but there is zero substance. No story. Nothing.

Elfen Lied has issues, yeah; but I still enjoyed it a ton. The Manga made watching the anime far more enjoyable for me, because it continues the story in a significant way. Like I said about SAO, it was enjoyable 3/5 - not great, but I didn't hate my time with it. I at least felt like both of those shows weren't a waste of my time like NGE and FLCL.

So basically you missed the entire point of two really good shows because they weren't up in your face enough? Your NGE and FLCL argument is the equivalent of someone saying 2001: A Space Odyssey is a terrible movie because "It's boring". You literally missed the entire point of NGE if you thought Shinji was a horrible character who did nothing, but whine and that Asuka was cool. I'm not saying you can't like what you want to like, but still you're just saying wrong things here.

This is the last message I'm going to type regarding this, because I find internet arguments absolutely pointless. I maintain, these kinds of arguments are what make people hate the anime community - Think about how people who don't care about this stuff perceive messages like these.

Yeah I get it. There is mental and psychological torment at play, there is undertones of mental illness in almost all of the characters, and it's trying to be deep with its realistic portrayal of mental illness. I think it was executed very poorly, and in the end was laughable rather than insightful. Also, you're putting words in my mouth, I never said it "wasn't in my face enough." It was far from subtle with all of what it tried to accomplish, and though it was probably astonishing for its time, for a first-time viewer years later it is mediocre at best. There are other series' which handle the same subjects better. Lastly, Asuka was a way better character than Shinji, no question. Her depression making her act out and be flamboyant was more interesting than anything else going on in that series.

Also, just for you I finished FLCL.

Still think it's trash. Eyebrow guy was kind of okay, and that one gunfight scene with all those agents wasn't bad; but I have no desire to ever see it again.

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@sergio said:

I think I may be one of the few people who just didn't like FLCL.

I'm with you, man. I thought FLCL was trash.

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@bassman2112 said:
@starvinggamer said:

The first third is pretty good, the second third is one of my favorite things in anime, the last third shits the bed in some really strange, unexpected ways.

Still one of my favorite anime on the strength of the second third.

I'm really fond of the ALO arc, actually (Spoilers for second half of season 1 btw). I know a lot of people weren't, and I get why - Asuna being powerless was really weird considering the first half of the show - but I found some of the stuff they touched on to be pretty good =D

Actually my biggest problem with it is how randomly servicey it becomes. It's completely jarring, especially in contrast to how they handled the romance between Kirito and Asuna in such an unexpectedly mature and adult way for a shonen anime.

Agreed. If you saw the OVA that came out before season 2, that problem is only intensified. I totally agree, the way they handle Kirito x Asuna is really strong; but yeah, the fan service stuff is annoying. Hopefully you've seen some of Season 2 =) It is way better in a lot of regards.

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@bassman2112: Thanks for the boatload of suggestions. You've sold me on Madoka.

@bassman2112 said:
@jesushammer said:

@bassman2112: I'm sorry, but man your taste is just wrong. Anybody that puts SAO and Elfen Lied above FLCL and NGE is just wrong.

That's the cool thing about subjective opinions man, there is no reason for them to be "wrong." This is why people say anime is for jerks, when you make binary statements like that. [...]

I've been continuing to watch SAO (I'm on episode 8 or so), and I'm still on board with it. The first few episodes felt kind of aimless and the early business with Sachi and Silica was toeing an uncomfortable line (at least for me), but the show's settled into a rhythm focusing on Kirito and Asuna that I'm relatively into. I've heard some veiled references to the show going totally off the rails and/or getting "gross" at a certain point, but at least thus far I'm not seeing why people hate it so much.

Hope the suggestions helped! You really will like Madoka. It truly sets its tone into motion around Episode 3 - that's all I will say.

And yeah, I get what you're into with SAO. I felt like that show actually became somewhat good when they stopped doing individual episodes focusing on random stuff. When it started having one cohesive arc is when the show got way better. SAO II is way better for this, the entire show has had one arc so far. Though, THE CLIFFHANGERS ARE THE WORST!!!!

The first third is pretty good, the second third is one of my favorite things in anime, the last third shits the bed in some really strange, unexpected ways.

Still one of my favorite anime on the strength of the second third.

I'm really fond of the ALO arc, actually (Spoilers for second half of season 1 btw). I know a lot of people weren't, and I get why - Asuna being powerless was really weird considering the first half of the show - but I found some of the stuff they touched on to be pretty good =D

#6 Posted by bassman2112 (987 posts) -

@bassman2112: I'm sorry, but man your taste is just wrong. Anybody that puts SAO and Elfen Lied above FLCL and NGE is just wrong.

That's the cool thing about subjective opinions man, there is no reason for them to be "wrong." This is why people say anime is for jerks, when you make binary statements like that. Here, just to appease your propensity for internet arguments, here is my reasoning:

NGE was bad. Shinji was a horrible character who did nothing but whine for 24 episodes and a movie. Rei was lame. Asuka was cool. The dad gave Shinji a job, and hooked him up with a rad roommate, and shinji just cried 24/7. It was a boring, frustrating show to watch and I think it was utter shit.

FLCL was worthless. Everyone I talked to hyped it up as the greatest thing ever, but it was unwatchable. A kid that spawns robots from the dicks that grow out of his head? Pretty deep, man. Like I said, The Pillows' music is great, the style is good, but there is zero substance. No story. Nothing.

Elfen Lied has issues, yeah; but I still enjoyed it a ton. The Manga made watching the anime far more enjoyable for me, because it continues the story in a significant way. Like I said about SAO, it was enjoyable 3/5 - not great, but I didn't hate my time with it. I at least felt like both of those shows weren't a waste of my time like NGE and FLCL.

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@mithical said:

Thinking about comedy in anime has me curious though.. do you guys have any recommendations based on humour? Obviously it's pretty subjective but if enough people point things out I'll probably find something that jives with me.

I'd REALLY recommend Steins;Gate. It has humour and silliness, but it also has moments that are genuinely touching and, frankly, emotional.

More on subject with the OP here, though - I used to like Anime a bit in high school; but through University, forced myself away because I wanted to be a good student and shit. This past summer I've caught up and watched SO MUCH ANIME. Here are my thoughts on some series' I went through this summer:

Kill La Kill: Awesome action, funny moments, amazing characters (Ryuko is rad all around), and actually had a really good arc in its last half. I was genuinely surprised. ALSO THE BEST OST IN ANIME. 4/5

Attack On Titan: Really loved the art style. Starts with a bang, and I feel like it carries its pace very well throughout the whole show. Good writing, though sometimes a little melodramatic. Overall really good, worthy of its hype, and I've been reading the manga =D 4/5

Mekakucity Actors: Tries too hard. Rushes through everything because it's a short season. Tries to tell a complicated story in not enough time, and does a poor job doing so. Has some good moments, but overall a letdown. 2/5

Madoka Magica: I watched Madoka knowing absolutely nothing about it going in. If you also know nothing about Madoka, go watch it. Right now. It is in my top 3 series' of all time, and episode 10 is my favourite piece of fiction ever. EVER. 5/5

Higurashi: Heard it was violent, and the opening scene in season one is extremely violent. As it went on, I started off confused; but became more intrigued as the season went on. First season ended really strongly, and I enjoyed it. Watched the second season AND MY MIND WAS BLOWN LIKE IT HAD NEVER BEEN BLOWN BEFORE. Higurashi is legitimately an amazing series, but you NEED to watch season two to really appreciate it. Another show in my top 3. 5/5

FLCL: Hated it. Got 3 episodes in, there was no story, all style with no substance. The Pillows are an awesome band, and the music was good; but horrible series. Never finished it. 1/5

Sword Art Online (And SAO II): It had its moments. I appreciated that it seemed in check with how a game would actually work. I think Season One was okay overall, like a solid 3/5, maybe 4/5. Season 2 is very good so far, going to continue watching it =D

Neon Genesis Evangelion: Never before have I ever been so let down by an overhyped series. It tries to tackle some interesting subjects, but I feel it fails at all of them. 1/5 show. Even watching 'End of Evangelion' didn't make it better for me. Do not recommend.

Elfen Lied: Cool story. Really violent, though. Definitely don't watch around kids or parents. I liked it, they handled PTSD in a really cool way. I'd say 4/5 for the show, and 5/5 for the manga.

Kuroko's Basketball: Don't waste your time. 1/5

No Game No Life: If you liked Kill La Kill, you'll love this show. It's like KLK meets Sword Art. It's funny, smart, and beautiful. There is a ton of fan service, so if boobs bother you then it'll be awkward; but a great show overall. 4/5

Steins;Gate: As I mentioned earlier in this post, fantastic show. I don't want to give any of it away, but I legitimately believe it's one of the best shows I've ever seen. Really, really good. 5/5

Code Geass: Show I'm currently watching. Finished season one and really liked it a lot. Season two is really awesome so far, looking forward to where it's going. So far an easy 5/5

Hope you guys can find some recommendations from this! Anime isn't as evil as people make it out to be. In fact, I feel like it's better than most Western media - they tackle topics that Western stuff is just too shy to talk about. Mental illness, guilt, shame, et cetera.

But yeah, anime is for jerks.

Edit: Oh, also watched Spice And Wolf! What a spectacular little romance that was. I loved it! You also learn a ton about economics along the way. 4/5 if not 5/5 (only thing keeping it from 5/5 is pacing).

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Another responsibility they have is with the gaming industry. I don't feel Brad is being objective. If they keep favoring one console over the other they are contributing to console sales disparity and that is bad for the industry because there is a need of balance so one does not get abusive.

... I think you gravely overestimate the power that the bombcast holds over the industry.

#9 Posted by bassman2112 (987 posts) -

I hope Brad never sees this, because it's nearly pointless.

Because Brad enjoys one console more than the other does not mean that you have to share his opinion. You're still allowed to like the XBone, and there's no reason anyone should be telling you to think otherwise.

As others have said, the podcast doesn't have to be impartial. If you are annoyed at it, that's your prerogative; but there is no need to try and shame Brad for having an opinion that differs from your own.

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