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Katawa Shoujo: Don't knock it 'till you've tried it

So I've never played a visual novel before. I never really saw the appeal. It seems weird calling them games at all. In reality you're reading a story and occasionally making choices which affect the story in different ways. In principle it doesn't sound bad, but especially with dating sims they just didn't really take my fancy. But I recently, after much convincing from Swoxx on the Giant Bomb PC Gaming Hub IRC, I decided to give Katawa Shoujo a go. I did it mostly so I could say "I played it, it was rubbish" to shut him up. But my experience with the game ended up being phenomenal. I didn't expect anything like it. Assuming we consider it a video game, it's one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had.

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For those of you who aren't familiar with it, Katawa Shoujo is a freeware Japanese-style dating sim set in a disabled school, in which all of the potential love interests have a disability. Now bear with me, because when I first heard of the game I reacted badly too. Knowing that it originated from 4chan didn't help my initial impressions either. I promptly called it a "Disabled girl boning simulator" and filed it away in the darkest corner of my brain which I refer to as "things I wish I didn't know about" alongside Rapelay, squid porn and other similar monstrosities. It sounded horrible. A game in which the aim is to fuck one of 5 disabled girls. What kind of sick pervert would play that?

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But after playing the game, I realize that my initial reaction was completely wrong. The game isn't about having sex with disabled girls. Nothing could be further from the truth, really. Yes, there are sex scenes but they are short and aren't the focus of the game. I'll get to them later. To sum up the story, Katawa Shoujo tells follows Hisao Nakai. In his final year of Japanese High School he suffers a heart attack and is diagnosed with a congenital heart condition, arrhythmia. After spending months in hospital, he is finally released but must attend a new school dedicated to the care and education of disabled students.

The first thing that struck me upon playing was the high production values. Coming from a team working across the internet, everything from the art to the writing and even the music was extremely impressive. While I haven't played any commercial games of this style, I imagine it compares favourably to them. As I went into the story, I only became more impressed. Firstly you have Hisao who is coming to grips with his newly diagnosed condition, and getting used to attending a school filled with students with all manner of disabilities. There's an awkwardness in his character that represents human nature. He is unsure how to react around these sensitive issues. He shows humanity and through time, grows more comfortable with the situation he finds himself in.

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Onto the 5 potential love interests interests in the game, each with a different disability. It would be easy for a game based on dating disabled girls to make all of them frail and timid, with the protagonist coming along and rescuing them from falling into depression. But it completely avoids that trap. It handles the entire situation with tact and sensitivity. Each of the girls have adapted to their disabilities and it does not consume their life. They have all overcome them to the point where everything they do is second nature. The most defining aspect of each character isn't their disability, but their unique personality.

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There is the bubbly & happy go lucky Emi, the shy & reserved Hanako, the weird tomboy Rin, the dignified & well spoken Lilly and the assertive & competitive Shizune. I don't feel a need to define them by their disabilities because their disabilities don't define them. They are unique and vibrant characters. On face value, some of the characters seem very one dimensional and stereotypical. That was a real concern when I wound up heading down the Emi storyline. I was expecting a very one dimensional and stereotypical cheery anime girl. But she opened up and became a far more diverse character, and I'm reliably informed that same is true of the other storylines too.

I don't want to talk about the details of the storyline because that could spoil it for someone, but Emi's story a profound effect on me. I became extremely emotionally attached to the the characters. The writing is great; It's probably slightly amateurish and maybe there is a little too much fluff, but regardless of the downfalls it does a great job of injecting emotion into the characters. It turned a handful of drawings into believable characters. Characters who I cared about. I'm not ashamed to admit that there was one point in the story that almost had me in tears. It was an emotional rollercoaster. Something which I most certainly wasn't expecting. I didn't think I could ever get that emotionally invested in a video game, yet I did.

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The lemon scented lube scene
The lemon scented lube scene

Of course, Katawa Shojou isn't perfect. For a start, I greatly disliked the sex scenes. Two of them were OK. They were believable and seemed like situations that Hisao and Emi could find themselves in, and were reasonably tasteful. It still felt creepy to me. While the game insists that all the girls are over 18, Emi looks really young. But I could believe the situations and it wasn't too explicit, so it wasn't that bad. But there was another sex scene. The middle sex scene. It featured... lemon scented lube. It was totally weird and extremely out of place. Everything from the reasoning why they were doing it, to where they were doing it and their reaction during and after was downright weird. There was nothing "sexy" about the scene at all. I get that they are young and don't know what they're doing. It's supposed to be clumsy and mechanical. But it's not supposed to be like that.

I should note that it is possible to these scenes off in the settings if you wish. That seems like it might be a good option, although they didn't detract from my overall experience with the game. They are all short and certainly not the focus of the game. The other annoying thing in the game is Kenji, a comic relief character who lives in the dorm room next door to Hisao. Simply put, he's a complete nutter who keeps going on about a "feminist conspiracy" he believes in. At the best of times it's a bit annoying, and when you're emotionally invested in the story and you want to continue with it, Kenji showing up is the last thing you want. I found myself saying "fuck off Kenji" aloud during the game once or twice, and then frantically clicking past his dialogue, barely reading a word.

Overall it is a fantastic experience. It's something I wholeheartedly recommend that other people try. I've heard mixed reactions from other people. Some find it lackluster, others have a similar experience to me. Either way it's free, so you've got nothing to lose trying it out. Or you could judge it prematurely and never get to experience it at all, like I almost did.

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@Shun_Akiyama: At this rate it's Godzilla and his handicapped cousin.

I'll have to do some hardcore posting. Really fast.

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@Video_Game_King: None of those are going to save you when I begin my all out assault on the moon.

But all in due time, my friend..All in due time.

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@Cloudenvy:

You say that as though I don't already have defenses in place.

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@TobbRobb: which one do you like better, mecha or not?
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@FluxWaveZ said:

@kashif1: That horrid anime Angel Beats, apparently.

I haven't seen it, but you're the first person I've come across to consider the show horrid.

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@Shun_Akiyama: One is a giant mutated lizard, the other is a giant mutated ROBOT lizard. This is hardly a fair comparison.

(I actually prefer old school zilla).

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@TobbRobb said:

@Shun_Akiyama: One is a giant mutated lizard, the other is a giant mutated ROBOT lizard. This is hardly a fair comparison.

(I actually prefer old school zilla).

very true
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@Hailinel: Taking all of my information, entirely from one screenshot. I'm gonna flat out say that one character looks really annoying and the art is good.

So decent Anime. I'm sure it can't be "horrid".

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@Hailinel said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

@kashif1: That horrid anime Angel Beats, apparently.

I haven't seen it, but you're the first person I've come across to consider the show horrid.

I admit I've only seen the first episode, and I can understand how it appeals to some, but I don't need to see more of it to know that "horrid" would be an apt description of it for me.

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@FluxWaveZ:

But don't most first episodes of anime suck, at least compared to the rest of the series?

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@Video_Game_King: I'm not sure about that, but what I do know is that the overall mood set by the first episode is unpleasant, which I can only assume is continued throughout the series. Calling the whole show horrid without seeing past the first episode is probably too harsh, but I'd probably come to that conclusion if I watched the whole thing anyways.

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@Video_Game_King said:

(Also, while I'm here, I might as well tell you this, : that "I knew it; you can't be trusted" pic isn't from Emi's route. It's actually from Shizune's route.)

Possibly. I thought it was from the scene where Emi is having a go at Hisao for not adhering to her dietary plan in the Emi route. The dialogue certainly fits that plot point. I could be wrong though, I don't have the entire script memorised or anything.

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@MattyFTM: You're correct. I just finished Emi's route and that pic is her seeing Hisao at the festival and him not going along with the dietary plan that she set out for him to follow.

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While we're here, funny Kenji moments. Damn, most his conversations became so boring I jetted through them without reading, but this one... this one...

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I can appreciate the amateurish writing when it comes out this nicely.

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@TobbRobb said:

@Hailinel: Taking all of my information, entirely from one screenshot. I'm gonna flat out say that one character looks really annoying and the art is good.

So decent Anime. I'm sure it can't be "horrid".

That character is really annoying (but she's a fantastic singer) and the art is pretty great, but coming from P.A Works that's almost to be expected.

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Having finished with Emi and Hanako thus far, I was thinking about where to go from here. Part of me wants to do Lilly's story next considering the praise it has gotten from some, but I'm also contemplating saving that one for last if it's that good and possibly do Shizune first since I don't particularly like her as a character to begin with. And so it might be sour to end on a character I don't necessarily like. Any suggestions on order from here?

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@Pezen:

Since you've done Hanako already (I ended on her just to spite the developers), I'd suggest ending on Rin so you can finish strong.

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@Animasta: Yeah, she was my least favourite. I just didn't like her personality, her little brother dressed like a girl for no reason and I wanted to cut her dad with that damn katana. Even the good ending was lackluster. Neutral ending with the results you suggested, would've been great.

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@Dunchad said:

@Animasta: Yeah, she was my least favourite. I just didn't like her personality, her little brother dressed like a girl for no reason and I wanted to cut her dad with that damn katana. Even the good ending was lackluster. Neutral ending with the results you suggested, would've been great.

I wonder if I'm the only one who thinks that the sex scene with Shizune is totally insane and or nuts. I honestly couldn't stop laughing when it happened.

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@FluxWaveZ said:

@Hailinel said:

@FluxWaveZ said:

@kashif1: That horrid anime Angel Beats, apparently.

I haven't seen it, but you're the first person I've come across to consider the show horrid.

I admit I've only seen the first episode, and I can understand how it appeals to some, but I don't need to see more of it to know that "horrid" would be an apt description of it for me.

That's like saying The Wire is terrible just because the first few episodes are boring as sin.

Out of the limited exposure I have with anime (a lot of it is boring and extremely drawn out) Angel Beats is easily the best.

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@Animasta:

You can actually get with Misha; it just nets you a bad ending because who wants to get with Misha? Shizune's the more attractive one, and her personality isn't as annoying. (I'd put that all in spoilers, but that button doesn't seem to be working right now.)

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@Sooty said:

That's like saying The Wire is terrible just because the first few episodes are boring as sin.

Out of the limited exposure I have with anime (a lot of it is boring and extremely drawn out) Angel Beats is easily the best.

Does the moe stuff continue throughout the series? The comparison with The Wire isn't quite the best because, for example, I could see the first episode of K-On and immediately come to the conclusion that the series isn't for me.

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@Video_Game_King said:

@Animasta:

You can actually get with Misha; it just nets you a bad ending because who wants to get with Misha? Shizune's the more attractive one, and her personality isn't as annoying. (I'd put that all in spoilers, but that button doesn't seem to be working right now.)

not getting with Misha, thats not what I meant (I did not, that seemed like a bad thing to do), I meant Misha getting with Shizune!

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@FluxWaveZ said:

@Sooty said:

That's like saying The Wire is terrible just because the first few episodes are boring as sin.

Out of the limited exposure I have with anime (a lot of it is boring and extremely drawn out) Angel Beats is easily the best.

Does the moe stuff continue throughout the series? The comparison with The Wire isn't quite the best because, for example, I could see the first episode of K-On and immediately come to the conclusion that the series isn't for me.

It's definitely worth sticking with, I think the director of P4A worked on it and it definitely has quite a lot of good humour. It's surprisingly grim in a few episodes when going into details about the characters backgrounds as well, doesn't really pull any punches.

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@Animasta:

Did you read Misha's backstory in Act 4? There's no way that shit's gonna happen.

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@Video_Game_King said:

@Animasta:

Did you read Misha's backstory in Act 4? There's no way that shit's gonna happen.

why wouldn't it? I completed it and I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to...

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@Video_Game_King: that's what I was saying, I would have rather figure out why and see if I could change than just say HEY MISHA THAT GIRL WHO GOT REJECTED FROM THE GIRL I'M DATING CHEER UP

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@Animasta:

But how would you see Shizune naked that way? It'd have to be a neutral ending (the pattern for those seems to be "things kinda worked out, but I didn't get to see schoolgirl titty.")

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@Video_Game_King: @Animasta:

YOOOOOOO, what is up with the spoiler train, I've already played it but DAMN.

This blog is partly trying to get new players in here, they don't need to see this.

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@TobbRobb:

I tried using the spoiler button, but it refused to cooperate. I'm guessing it's not a huge Misha fan.

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@Video_Game_King said:

@Animasta:

But how would you see Shizune naked that way? It'd have to be a neutral ending (the pattern for those seems to be "things kinda worked out, but I didn't get to see schoolgirl titty.")

I had turned off the sex scenes, actually! and I'm just saying that the good ending seems like it's just sweeping Misha's feelings under the rug and it feels unearned. You never actually discuss the issue with Shizune either, so you didn't even get closure that way.

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@Video_Game_King said:

@Animasta:

You can actually get with Misha; it just nets you a bad ending because who wants to get with Misha? Shizune's the more attractive one, and her personality isn't as annoying. (I'd put that all in spoilers, but that button doesn't seem to be working right now.)

Misha's great. Shut your face.

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@Animasta:

Isn't that what the bad ending is for, though? If I remember correctly, it's just Hisao calling Shizune out for being an asshole.

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@BulletproofMonk:

Misha sucks. Shut your face. Mwahaha~!

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@Video_Game_King said:

@Animasta:

Isn't that what the bad ending is for, though? If I remember correctly, it's just Hisao calling Shizune out for being an asshole.

I should have gone for the bad ending then!

oh well, done with KS for now, I've got ANALOGUE

*hyun-ae is so kawaii~

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@Video_Game_King said:

@BulletproofMonk:

Misha sucks. Shut your face. Mwahaha~!

We agree for once!

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@Cloudenvy: @Video_Game_King:

Man, fuck you guys.

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Best moment of the game.
Best moment of the game.
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Guys, stop posting huge ass spoilers in this thread. Some of us are still playing through some of the routes and would rather not have parts of the game fucking ruined. If you want to talk about story specifics, create another thread dedicated to spoiler talk.

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@MattyFTM said:

If you want to talk about story specifics, create another thread dedicated to spoiler talk.

Are you saying that we can bump one of the other Katawa Shoujo threads? Or do you want me to create a thread specifically for spoilerific talk?

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I'd say this thread is pretty appropriate for spoiler talk

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Played this game on your recommendation, and I'm extremely glad I did. Thank you, sir.

I do disagree with you on the middle sex scene in Emi's story, I felt everything about that from what they did, why they did it, and their reactions to it afterwards made perfect sense in context of their personalities. However, sex scenes in "games" (term used loosely) are always going to be walking a fine line, so I can understand perfectly why you felt it was misplaced. I did appreciate, however, how non-explicit visually the sex scenes were. I've only done Emi's so far, so it could be different on the others, but the restraint they've shown in both the writing and the visuals is greatly appreciated.

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I'll consider it when there's a gay romance option. Katawa Shonen?

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@predator: There is one manly path with a manly man where you have a manly picnic.

It's all very manly.

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Damn, this game has completely won me over.

I started this game really cautiously, having never tried anything like this before I didn't really know what to expect, but today I have found myself playing it for about 4 hours non stop. I literally couldn't stop playing until I knew the outcome of the story.

however the ending I got has left me fighting back the Man tears...

why? why didn't you go after her you stupid bastard?

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@Whitelock:

Which girl are we talking about?