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DAMN! That edit tool is dangerous, I wanted to unmark this as a question, then accidentally posted this to general discussion 0_0

That's too much power for one poster.

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#2  Edited By rolanthas

@humanity said:
@nettacki said:

@humanity: I'm curious to hear from you the reason why you think DMC3 is convoluted. You say it a lot, but you never elaborated on that point.

This complaint applies to a lot of character action games and not only to DMC but what I consider convoluted is the necessity for inventing completely unique combos for every single piece of equipment in the game. I was actually thrilled with the way DmC used the same combo strings for all weapons. While I understand the thought behind differing combos in fighting games where every character needs to be different and it's a one on one fight, having to memorize movesets for all my weapons in character action seems needless. There are other things unique to DMC that I found "convoluted" but they are minor issues and are kind of a Capcom staple like saving, checkpointing, level design, the interface, upgrades etc etc. I think a lot of Japanese games even to this day are very menu heavy and have a hard time streamlining their UI.

That is an interesting point, and returning to DMC 3 after playing DmC I noticed it as well. To be fair, most PS2 era games were menu heavy, no matter the genre, and it certainly got better year by year. Although it's a bit apparent in DMC 4 as well, but less I say about that rushed, 1/2 of a game the better -_-

Can't say combo approach is better in one or the other, there may be peeps that prefer unique combos for each weapons, what with having a different feel and rythm and all. I can say that with a 500 hour DMC 3 save ( standart edition OG Pal release Yo! ), and a 60 hour DmC save, I find similar combos for every weapon to be vastly preferable, since DMC is less about memorizing combos for me and more about timing the best stylish combination I can for each situation. The less time I spend learning the unique weapon combos the better. NG 1-2, Bayonetta and MGR had similar combos for each weapon, and it worked great there as well.

But it does weaken the differentiation with each weapon, where Osiris is just an AOE focused Rebellion etc. It was great to switch into Cerberus or Beowulf and have a wholly different yet equally reliable library to mess with. DmC weapons rely on each other too much I think. But again, that's a different design approach, one I had quite a lot of fun with, and can see improving in a sequel if it comes to be.

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Oh I can buy FES as well, didn't notice it was available on PSN too.

And yeah, aside from the loss of direct control on party members, FES seems way more enticing. Alright I'll probably pull the trigger on this. I'm just loving what I've played of Persona 4 way too much, it's easily the best RPG I've played in years, way more RP than most of the genre titles for sure. And %50 is too good to pass up.

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#4  Edited By rolanthas

So I recently bought this, not knowing beforehand that there was a Persona sale going on. I've been playing and loving this for the last 3 days, mostly draining my Vita's battery each time. I'm about 12 hours in and, since I have a fair bit o cash left in my psn wallet, was wondering if I should just go ahead and buy P3P as well.

I've read that the combat system is essentially identical in both games, and I know about the visual novel aspect of the daytime interactions ( which I'm cool with ), but I'm not sure how it'll feel to go from a PS2- Vita port to PS2-PSP port. I also don't want to miss the sale and end up paying double for the game if I still crave for more Persona after finishing this.

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I think that series had peaked for me at VII. I don't need more of it in my life.

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@tobbrobb said:

Ugh. Talking about why people would prefer the older games without actually knowing why is just frustrating to listen to. It's not rose tinted glasses if they are being played RIGHT NOW.

The idea for this show is pretty neat. Though based only on this episode, I'm note entirely sure what I would get out of it. They just kind of went "DmC was pretty cool right?" "Yeah".

Yeah I really like the idea behind this series, but DmC was not the best choice for the debut. The fanbase, those who liked the game and the ones that hated, expected them to talk more about the mechanics and gameplay in general, since in the end that's what matters most in DMC / DmC. But the show itself is more about talking about the storyline and the themes around it, so those kinda clash against each other.

Still, It never ceases to amaze me how my fellow DMC fans see this game as a NG3.

Those Youtube commenters are clinically rabid at this point, barely functioning in their hate filled flesh vessels.

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No one needs to justify the money they spend on their hobbies etc. Perfectly fine if you buy a new release for full price or %50 off. Pointing fingers on this matter is kinda scummy.

However, it probably doesn't benefit the devs much when you buy it at discount. Certainly not to the extent of a 60$ purchase would. I don't think this point is really arguable. But this comes more from common sense than an informed insight on how the pub - dev relationships work.

To elaborate, if or to what extent sales or key purchases directly effect the developers, that seems like a case by case basis. There are dozens of studios that get no bonuses even if everyone purchases their games at full retail prices, then there are studios like DF where they can still make money off the sales of their older games via DD.

It's really hard to tailor your purchasing habit with how it'll effect the devs when there isn't a standardization on these matters, and even if there is, it's certainly not transparent enough to inform us.

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#8  Edited By rolanthas

If I have to make a choice at gunpoint at the top of a skyscraper with my arch nemesis taunting, while I'm calculating the right angle to jump down so I can start my jetpack before the adrenaline turns me into my final form EVERREAPER- THE FLAYER OF FLESH :

Heretic II

Dishonored

DMC 1

Yup, seems about right.

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I don't expect it, no.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if it happens, but not really holding my breath after years of most minimal leaks in the matter.

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Alright, seems perfectly sensible to buy Dark Arisen then.

Thanks duders.