verysexypotato

@GaspoweR said:

Man all these uses of the word cunt just remind me of Vinny saying it in the bombcast, the song and music video that came out of that, and the film, Bronson.

God damn you... I hadn't seen this. It is a true gift. What were we talking about, again?

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/off-topic/31/the-c-song-feat-vinny-caravella/511639/

@BraveToaster said:

I implore you to search harder next time; it only took me 2 seconds to find the Sarkeesian threads. Your thread title is right.

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion/30/anita-sarkeesian-and-video-game-censorship/554021/

http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/off-topic/31/genuine-criticism-against-anita-sarkeesian-tropes-vs-women/554030/

Haha, both of these threads are locked and have very little in the way of discussion. Not much use to us here. But I think I've milked both points of view for as much as they have to offer in these "Women in games" threads. I am satisfied for now.

@TeflonBilly said:

@Animasta said:

@TeflonBilly: I mean really she's as bad as hitler when it comes down to it...

what is the point of this? She hasn't actually put a video out on vidgames. Yes, the other thread was worse about it, but there's still no content to discuss.

Also yes there are bigger problems that require attention but I cannot actually do anything about those problems (nor can most regular people) so it's a moot point anyway~~~

Actually, she is worse than HItler. At least HIS mustache was stylish.

It's funny how someone with such a superficial understanding of gender politics as yourself loves to interject and borderline troll EVERY topic concerning it. I wish I could just brush you off as some high concept parody of a clueless wannabe feminist warrior, but the sad thing is that you are probably a real person with the words you spout being your real thoughts.

Uh oh. Lets keep this civil, boys (or ladies!) I love these discussions and I don't want a mod coming in to find another talk devolve into hissy fits. I appreciate the article link, Teflon. I think Anne-Marie Slaughter is incredible for what she does, thank you for enlightening me.

@Animasta said:

@TeflonBilly: the fuck did I even say? I said that you should wait until you've actually seen the videos until you start threatening her with bodily violence and comparing her to pol pot or whatever. You're honestly just making yourself look worse with how much effort you're exerting over one woman with a youtube video series.

so yes, I'm some actual person that isn't some reactionary fucktard who doesn't irrationally hate youtube celebrities, call the presses!

As for you, young man (or woman) I think this topic can be discussed without getting upset. I do not believe she is Satan incarnate. I do, however, think it is unfortunate that it was her receiving $150k as opposed to someone who can come to this discussion with a more open-minded and welcoming approach. If you want both women to be portrayed with a wider spectrum in games AND want the male game-playing public to accept this change, then perhaps an absolute condemning of their favorite pastime isn't the best opener. If that's how she feels, that's completely fine. However, I feel she wouldn't receive half the criticism if she approached the subject in a more, "You're more than welcome to like what you like, but how about games for the rest of us." kind of vibe.

You get more flies with sugar than you do with vinegar, no?

@TeflonBilly: You're welcome. But no, seriously, it was nice to read this (obviously thought out) post and not feel like an ass for thinking she's going at this all wrong. But you mentioned in your earlier writing "(A wave that hit quite the stumbling block when a REAL and educated feminist had the balls to question if women "really could have it all" and sparked an amazing debate.)" Is this in reference to a specific individual sparking intelligent discussion about women in games? I would love to read more points of view on this from a woman in game development.

@TeflonBilly: Really? No responses? Well, I mirror this statement almost exactly. I completely agree with the fact that more women in games would be a good thing, as the driving forces behind two of my favorite games ever are women (Kim Swift of Portal and Amy Hennig of Uncharted fame.) But I really don't like the way she handles her exposes when I've been spoiled by videos like Extra Credits. The folk over at the PATV-hosted EC have a wonderful way of exposing and introducing concepts to the laymen, explaining the pros and cons, and finally producing some alternatives to a possible problem. This is all prefaced with the message that they are not perfect, and cannot be considered arbiters of any of these subjects. They are merely here to spark discussion of ideas and solutions. I think Anita does more harm than good in a number of her videos because she employs a brutal sarcasm in an attempt to enlighten the audience. Sarcasm itself assumes a level of understanding in any subject, so it serves little place in trying to teach/win over anyone who doesn't understand or agree with your views. ESPECIALLY when you're on a subject as controversial as "Women's place in games."

I do NOT think she deserved ANY of the harassment she received. I don't think anyone does. Though people who act like jerks in response to her success do prove her point, I think that people use this as a smokescreen for the actual problem some people have with her. She isn't wrong. There aren't enough women in games, and I think the industry would be better off having more. I just think the way she goes about her videos is all kinds of bad.

Duckman knows what I'm talking about.

@Oldirtybearon said:

This is an example of anthropomorphic characters. They act like people, but they're also distinctly animals. Nothing here is weirdly sexualized, because the art style depicts them as more animal than human. This is the kind of art style most of us probably grew up with. We like it.

Could be NSFW image for comparison:

SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.

This is literally the third image result when google image searching "furry." Dust is closer to furry than An American Tail. If you can't figure out why the above is creepy as fuck, then you're either far too innocent or far too creepy.

As you can see, there is a clear and distinct difference between anthropomorphic talking animals and creepy as shit furry people. Dust is a furry project done by furries. I can't support that. It's like supporting a person who wants to fuck animals. It's gross and wrong.

I love American Tale, but I think we should calm down. Here, have some of this!

@krazy_kyle said:

I would like to donate a massive cross so she can climb up and nail herself to it.

Hahahaha! Oh Jeeze, I better get out of this thread before I also say something silly. This made my day by the way.

@dudeglove: I just linked you to it. I have NO IDEA who ripped it. They deserve the credit.

The shit is this?! Where's my Ren & Stimpy?! (oh hey, one's been posted now) Where's my SC1 bad-CG cutsenes?! Where's my dead-leaves?

Watch the first 3 minutes, the whole movie is just as crazy. This is dubbed, I'd watch the subbed if you can. Either way, greatest 50 minutes ever. If you're not familiar with Imaishi, you should be.