Jeff was better at picking emails. Don't like it that Brads puts a lid when the conversation veers on the silly side of things. At least Brad is more active when he is the host.
@baillie: they should distance themselves from the only movement that managed to uncover weird connections, actual evidence, a popular Twitter hashtag, and the most change "gaming press" has committed so far because terrible people on the internet made threats that didnt mention it? All the "game bloggers" dismiss all this and mock ethics when they will not even be open to discussion and if you do move away from Gamergate you would just be chastised for coming from that movement and ignored even more. I guess it must just be the misogyny in my blood and the social construct of testosterone to be annoyed that consumer questions are being shut down and dismissed as hate
Or you can actually realise GamerGate as a whole will never get past the misogyny and bullshit no matter what happens.
Its the anti-GG side that is unwilling to talk. Covering your ears and shouting labels prevents GG from achieving its goal promoted over two months.
The only thing GG has promoted is how vile the gaming community can be towards women in gaming. Oh there's also that faint whisper I heard about gaming press having friends in the gaming industry. You know like Giant Bomb and Harmonix, Double Fine, SuperGiant Games, Samantha Kalman...
If this is what you believe then you have been listening to only one side. Giant Bomb has done a professional job of disclosing their relationships in the industry. The problem is that pretty much every one else doesn't. There isn't independence in the media for criticism. There is a culture of fear of speaking out. Major gaming sites and now mainstream sites toe the party line. Looking and listening to only one side of the argument. Anitas videos are obviously full of flaws. Nobody talks about that and only promotes them. When the "gamers are dead" articles came out, nobody dared to oppose them in the media.
@baillie: they should distance themselves from the only movement that managed to uncover weird connections, actual evidence, a popular Twitter hashtag, and the most change "gaming press" has committed so far because terrible people on the internet made threats that didnt mention it? All the "game bloggers" dismiss all this and mock ethics when they will not even be open to discussion and if you do move away from Gamergate you would just be chastised for coming from that movement and ignored even more. I guess it must just be the misogyny in my blood and the social construct of testosterone to be annoyed that consumer questions are being shut down and dismissed as hate
Or you can actually realise GamerGate as a whole will never get past the misogyny and bullshit no matter what happens.
Its the anti-GG side that is unwilling to talk. Covering your ears and shouting labels prevents GG from achieving its goal promoted over two months.
No surprise. Its another shot at painting #GamerGate as a harassment movement rather than admit the faults of the press and take actions to improve it.
The point of the mailing list is that a group of people decides and dictates what will be covered by them. Either promoting a game/person or ignoring a game/person. At some point individuals stop thinking by themselves to figure out their own opinion. This is all very evident with the treatment Anita gets from the press. Nobody ever looks past her obvious faults.
Y'know, when a large amount of people in a movement decide they need to donate to a charity in order to improve their public image and publicly gloat about it, donating to charity doesn't mean shit. They're not doing it out of benevolence, they're doing it as a PR stunt. Fuck GamerGate, seriously.
You can only prove your good intentions by acting on them. Otherwise its just words.
There is harassment on both sides. Its ugly is bad, it won't stop unless we all hide in a cave. But this shouldn't keep people from talking about the state of games media. People raise their hands in the air and say "i'm not touching that", this will solve nothing. There are a lot of bad practices between developers/publishers and reviewers/journalists. Remember that they work for us, we are trusting them to be our guide into the industry. Its not a good practice to have preview parties where the reviewers play the game in the best conditions possible that don't mimic the experience that the rest of the public will have. Prime example is SimCity, a game that came out broken but had great reviews. The other bad practice is having to rely on the publishers to get a review copy before the launch of the game. On one hand its great that the review can come out just in time for the launch of the game, but on the other hand there is a pressure to give a good score to the game so that the publisher doesn't pull the plug on the next game. Even though its not a perfect solution i think that games sites should buy the games on day 1, review them accordingly and not fear that the publisher will write them on a blacklist for the next game. Other bad practice is having a mailing list between all of the sites. Sure it may have a positive use, but within that group a narrative can be set to review on not review certain games, give them bad or good scores. Deciding who gets a favorable coverage and who doesn't. Whoever doesn't agree gets shouted down. Everyone should form their own opinion on a game, not have it handed down from other. Having personal or financial relationships with devs should be disclosed, otherwise its unfaithful to the customer.
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