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Geoff Keighley thinks Halo: Reach is phenomenal.

Yea... I'm serious. The Spike TV VGA Awards is on 12/12 and as always, its more about the exclusive previews for next year's games than the actual awards. Geoff recently went on to Major's Minute, the podcast of Major Nelson (Xbox Live Bro for those who don't know) and said the following about Halo: Reach: 
 

 "At the VGAs, you'll actually go down onto the Planet Reach and see this game for the first time. It's all going to be in-game stuff, this is not CG, this is not live action. [...] You'll get the first glimpse at the world Reach, which I think is going to be phenomenal and I think is going to be the biggest game next year by far. Folks loved ODST and it was great, but you know, when people see the huge leap forward Bungie is taking with Reach, I don't know if you've seen it yet, but everyone I've talked to that seen it, has been on the team, is incredibly excited about this game. [...] It's going to be an epic piece, the guys at Bungie have done a phenomenal job, we are really proud to be partnered with them for this."    

He's pretty psyched :D And now, I am too. That ass! I was trying to keep my expectations in check!  
 
What do you people think? 
 
Link to the Podcast where this unfolds
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It will not be bigger than God of War 3 IMO

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@HandsomeDead said:
" ODST is probably my game of the year, so the buzz on Reach is great to hear. 3 dollar bill, y'all. "
Same here man. ODST was like the best game of the year for me as well.
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@girdz said:
" It will not be bigger than God of War 3 IMO "
Depends what you mean by "big".
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@xyzygy said:
" Well the book was awesome and if it's anything like the book it WILL be epic. "
SO it is going to be a $60 book.
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Geoff Keighly having an opinion on anything means literally nothing. I honestly cannot stand him, and I know no one who can.

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@pause422: I used to be unable to stand him, until I saw him defending Mass Effect on Fox News. 
@Hexogen:  The same way Geoff Keighley means it.
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@girdz said:
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@pause422: I used to be unable to stand him, until I saw him defending Mass Effect on Fox News. 
@Hexogen:  The same way Geoff Keighley means it. "
They could of gotten anyone at all who has played the game in their life to defend it , he did fine yes, but its not something anyone else couldnt of done.
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@pause422: Well maybe, but he's also a good interviewer. He's no Brad, but he's good.
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Halo 3 was hands down my GOTY for 2007.  Reach will probably be my GOTY 2010.  I too would like a larger scale and feel to the game.  Piloting Pelicans FTW!!!

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@Zereta said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" ODST is probably my game of the year, so the buzz on Reach is great to hear. 3 dollar bill, y'all. "
Same here man. ODST was like the best game of the year for me as well. "
Probably. I think it's amazing how strongly the halo 3 MP is still going even after 2 years. I mean it's like, the 2nd most played game on xbl right now? Even ahead of all the releases like left 4 dead 2, assasins creed 2, and madden. And i'm willing to bet that will all change when the reach beta hits. 
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@girdz said:

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@pause422:

I used to be unable to stand him, until I saw him defending Mass Effect on Fox News. 
@Hexogen:  The same way Geoff Keighley means it. "
Listening to that portion of the podcast, I get the feeling that he means "big" in terms of either acclaim or sales. If you mean "big" in terms of reception, I think it could go either way. Both series have always been extremely well received by critics and gamers alike, and I doubt that will change for GoW III or Reach. If you think God of War III will be bigger than Halo: Reach sales-wise though, I think you're nuts. :)
 
As an aside, I really hate when people say such-and-such will be the biggest game of the year. "Biggest" is such a vague term that can mean so many different things. People need to come out and just say what they really mean, straight up.
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I'm so excited i can't fucking wait.

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@HandsomeDead said:
" ODST is probably my game of the year, so the buzz on Reach is great to hear. 3 dollar bill, y'all. "
I liked ODST . . . but your Game of the Year? You liked it that much?
 
Bold, man. But you're a bold man.
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@Zereta said:
" @Apathylad said:
" I wonder when I'll be able to use that Reach beta code that came with ODST. "
Spring 2010. I'm waiting as well :) "
...We got a code?  I just got a piece of paper saying I would eventually get into the beta for buying the game.  How do you get the code?  I hope you don't need the piece of paper, I trashed it a week ago D:.
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I'm going to have to see it to believe it because graphically, Bungie has always prioritized game play and game control over graphical complexity.  I'm not criticizing them for this, it's just that such a remarkable improvement as Keighley describes would be a new direction for the company which I am unconvinced they've taken.  We'll all see for sure by the weekend, but until then I am skeptical.   The rest of what he says sounds like he's buttering them up for future television exclusives denying those opportunities to X-Play.  That's just basic business-related ass kissing.  I don't take it seriously.

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@Hexogen: God of War 3 will sell consoles, I don't think Halo Reach will.
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@Sir_Ragnarok said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" ODST is probably my game of the year, so the buzz on Reach is great to hear. 3 dollar bill, y'all. "
I liked ODST . . . but your Game of the Year? You liked it that much?  Bold, man. But you're a bold man. "
I think it says more about the quality of games released this year than the quality of the game itself. ODST was the only game that seemed tonally consistent from start to finish and worked as a sequel by putting a differing spin on a known quantity so it kept me interested all the way through. MW2 is far more fun to play but the story goes through too many highs and lows to make it on par with ODST. If anything, I'd be much more interested in a further sequel seeing the adventures of Buck's team rather than those of Price and Soap.
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@HandsomeDead said:
" @Sir_Ragnarok said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" ODST is probably my game of the year, so the buzz on Reach is great to hear. 3 dollar bill, y'all. "
I liked ODST . . . but your Game of the Year? You liked it that much?  Bold, man. But you're a bold man. "
I think it says more about the quality of games released this year than the quality of the game itself. ODST was the only game that seemed tonally consistent from start to finish and worked as a sequel by putting a differing spin on a known quantity so it kept me interested all the way through. MW2 is far more fun to play but the story goes through too many highs and lows to make it on par with ODST. If anything, I'd be much more interested in a further sequel seeing the adventures of Buck's team rather than those of Price and Soap. "
I believe Buck is one of the survivors of Reach...
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@crunchUK said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" @Sir_Ragnarok said:
" @HandsomeDead said:
" ODST is probably my game of the year, so the buzz on Reach is great to hear. 3 dollar bill, y'all. "
I liked ODST . . . but your Game of the Year? You liked it that much?  Bold, man. But you're a bold man. "
I think it says more about the quality of games released this year than the quality of the game itself. ODST was the only game that seemed tonally consistent from start to finish and worked as a sequel by putting a differing spin on a known quantity so it kept me interested all the way through. MW2 is far more fun to play but the story goes through too many highs and lows to make it on par with ODST. If anything, I'd be much more interested in a further sequel seeing the adventures of Buck's team rather than those of Price and Soap. "
I believe Buck is one of the survivors of Reach... "
Yeah, but isn't Reach going to be a prequel? In ODST at the end he mentions how Reach was glassed, so I suppose while it'll be good to see more of him, what I meant is I'd like to see a progressing set of games based around his squad. Though, if you listen to Joseph Staten, that's not going to happen, unfortunately.
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All they need to do is make the multiplayer a lot more like halo 2 and a lot less like halo 3 and it will be amazing

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@cooger10 said:
"All they need to do is make the multiplayer a lot more like halo 2 and a lot less like halo 3 and it will be amazing "

Well then sir, I'm afraid you will probably be apart of the vast minority that will definitely be dissapointed. 
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@girdz said:
" @Hexogen: God of War 3 will sell consoles, I don't think Halo Reach will. "
Fair enough. I disagree (I think both will be console movers), but you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
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@xobballox said:
" @Zereta said:
" @Apathylad said:
" I wonder when I'll be able to use that Reach beta code that came with ODST. "
Spring 2010. I'm waiting as well :) "
...We got a code?  I just got a piece of paper saying I would eventually get into the beta for buying the game.  How do you get the code?  I hope you don't need the piece of paper, I trashed it a week ago D:. "
Hold on, lemme check...*Checks.
Nope I was wrong, there wasn't a code. However, the slip says some stuff about needing a Hard Drive and a Gold account if you want to have access to the beta. I'm not really sure how it works.
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I'm really glad this is going to be in-game, great chance to see the new engine up and running.

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@Apathylad said:
" @xobballox said:
" @Zereta said:
" @Apathylad said:
" I wonder when I'll be able to use that Reach beta code that came with ODST. "
Spring 2010. I'm waiting as well :) "
...We got a code?  I just got a piece of paper saying I would eventually get into the beta for buying the game.  How do you get the code?  I hope you don't need the piece of paper, I trashed it a week ago D:. "
Hold on, lemme check...*Checks. Nope I was wrong, there wasn't a code. However, the slip says some stuff about needing a Hard Drive and a Gold account if you want to have access to the beta. I'm not really sure how it works. "
It will probably just show up as a game update in the spring, and there will be a "Halo Reach Beta" option in the main menu of ODST. 
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@cooger10 said:
" All they need to do is make the multiplayer a lot more like halo 2 and a lot less like halo 3 and it will be amazing "
Why? Halo 2 was broken as hell and a lot more frustrating to play
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He now has me even more excited about this game than before(which is really hard to do).  I will definitely be tuning in December 12th.  ^__^

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@crunchUK said:
" @cooger10 said:
" All they need to do is make the multiplayer a lot more like halo 2 and a lot less like halo 3 and it will be amazing "
Why? Halo 2 was broken as hell and a lot more frustrating to play "
Yeah, going back and playing halo 2 is a bit of a chore.  The core mechanics such as shooting, melee, and driving all feel sloppy and inferior when compared to halo 3.  The halo 2 sword lunge is hysterical.
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@Apathylad:  There's no code, everyone that purchases Halo odst will be able to play the beta.. even if you buy it the same day the beta gets released.
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Geoff Keighley makes Adam Sessler look like Jack Nickelson.
 
Congratulations Jeff....I mean Geoff, 3-time winner of the Geekiest  Journelist in America Award.  I knew you had it in you.  Party at the moon tower.
 
*And who are these people that loved ODST and thought it was great?

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Not to take anything away from Reach but he's been hyping these VGAs for weeks now.

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@Kingeptacon: Well myself for one, not saying ODST is without flaws but it was one of the best coop experiences I had this year.
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@Hexogen said:

" @girdz said:

" @Hexogen: God of War 3 will sell consoles, I don't think Halo Reach will. "
Fair enough. I disagree (I think both will be console movers), but you're certainly entitled to your opinion. "
I think he has a point. Halo:Reach will probably be one of the biggest sellers next year, but as far as selling consoles, everyone who bought an XBOX for Halo already kinda did?
 
It depends what kind of God Of War III marketing Sony do.
 
I happen to think Gran Turismo 5 will be the biggest console seller next year. Bar none. I'm not saying biggest seller fullstop, just biggest console mover.
 
Anyway, Halo Reach... Sorry, don't want to hijack thread.
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Halo 3 sucked, ODST sucked so it's pretty likely that Reach will suck a dangling nut also.

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@RsistncE said:
" Halo 3 sucked, ODST sucked so it's pretty likely that Reach will suck a dangling nut also. "
That's if you're a clueless idiot though.
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@crunchUK said:
" @RsistncE said:
" Halo 3 sucked, ODST sucked so it's pretty likely that Reach will suck a dangling nut also. "
That's if you're a clueless idiot though. "
Oh what a surprise, I'm getting insulted by a user with a Halo avatar *yawn*.
 
So how's all that furious masturbation to Halo working out for you? Sticky buttons?
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@RsistncE said:
" Halo 3 sucked, ODST sucked so it's pretty likely that Reach will suck a dangling nut also. "
When I see a post such as this and an avatar such as that I instantly block out that persons stupidity.  
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I sure hope he gets a job soon, going into A THREAD ABOUT HALO just to complain about halo shoots puppies can't be high on anyones priority list. Not that he actually knows anything about the aforementioned halo and is just pulling crap out of his... arse? 
 
Maybe i should learn to block out that persons stupidity as well

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First, I agree about that person's stupidity. Second, to all those asking how the download of the beta will work: It will work as it worked in crackdown for the halo 3 beta. You start up ODST and you get the beta off of there. Not positive, but that's what it's sounding like. Third, Halo 3 ODST was a great game. I don't think it's my Game of the Year, as there were so many other superb games, but it's definitely a contender for it.  
  
I also wanted to take a stab at that guy who said they would have to pull a Modern Warfare to really impress. In one way, I am kinda on your side. Modern Warfare made shooters feel rewarding again with their whole reward system in place. Halo needs to overhaul their whole "if you lose you get absolutely nothing with a couple insults to top it off" approach to multiplayer leveling. Now, I also disagree if you mean they have to reinvent their multiplayer. The Halo multiplayer has evolved 2 times thus far and has maybe stumbled a bit, but really shines with halo 3. The graphics are good and the gameplay is balanced and fun. I disagree that Modern Warfare capitalized on that balanced part and hope that Halo: Reach still has the same Halo quality. However, the Modern Warfare 2 vs Halo debate is not something I personally like and won't take a stance on here and now.

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@MAN_FLANNEL said:
" @Apathylad said:
" @xobballox said:
" @Zereta said:
" @Apathylad said:
" I wonder when I'll be able to use that Reach beta code that came with ODST. "
Spring 2010. I'm waiting as well :) "
...We got a code?  I just got a piece of paper saying I would eventually get into the beta for buying the game.  How do you get the code?  I hope you don't need the piece of paper, I trashed it a week ago D:. "
Hold on, lemme check...*Checks. Nope I was wrong, there wasn't a code. However, the slip says some stuff about needing a Hard Drive and a Gold account if you want to have access to the beta. I'm not really sure how it works. "
It will probably just show up as a game update in the spring, and there will be a "Halo Reach Beta" option in the main menu of ODST.  "
It'll be from the ODST Menu, where it says "Intel". 
 
@Kingeptacon said:
" Geoff Keighley makes Adam Sessler look like Jack Nickelson.  Congratulations Jeff....I mean Geoff, 3-time winner of the Geekiest  Journelist in America Award.  I knew you had it in you.  Party at the moon tower.  *And who are these people that loved ODST and thought it was great? "
*Raises hand* Best campaign of the series. 
 
@RsistncE said:
" Halo 3 sucked, ODST sucked so it's pretty likely that Reach will suck a dangling nut also. "
Finished sucking Sony's dangling nut? Back to reality? K, welcome back :) 
@imhuntad said:
" First, I agree about that person's stupidity. Second, to all those asking how the download of the beta will work: It will work as it worked in crackdown for the halo 3 beta. You start up ODST and you get the beta off of there. Not positive, but that's what it's sounding like. Third, Halo 3 ODST was a great game. I don't think it's my Game of the Year, as there were so many other superb games, but it's definitely a contender for it.    I also wanted to take a stab at that guy who said they would have to pull a Modern Warfare to really impress. In one way, I am kinda on your side. Modern Warfare made shooters feel rewarding again with their whole reward system in place. Halo needs to overhaul their whole "if you lose you get absolutely nothing with a couple insults to top it off" approach to multiplayer leveling. Now, I also disagree if you mean they have to reinvent their multiplayer. The Halo multiplayer has evolved 2 times thus far and has maybe stumbled a bit, but really shines with halo 3. The graphics are good and the gameplay is balanced and fun. I disagree that Modern Warfare capitalized on that balanced part and hope that Halo: Reach still has the same Halo quality. However, the Modern Warfare 2 vs Halo debate is not something I personally like and won't take a stance on here and now. "
For me, I like what Infinity Ward did with the concept of character progression. It made people think that whatever they did, they did well. Literally. It feels soo great when you see all the points rack up. But then, it follows the path of the MMO, where it takes most of its inspiration anyay, and just becomes grinding and people using the cheapest way possible to get EXP quickly. And at that point, the game starts to become less fun and unfair. The higher level you are, the more of an advantage you get. And camping and shit and... Oh god... 
Campaign wise, Modern Warfare 2 masters how to showcase intensity but it's always the same and after a while just becomes monotonous.  
 
Basically, I feel the only thing to take away from Modern Warfare is the concept of Character Progression, something Bungie have said they have learnt from Infinity Ward while playing COD4, by the way. 
 
Halo on the other hand, is just like a fun crazy shooter. No progression or anything but its just...fun. Campaigns are dynamic as shit. 
 
I don't know but if they just repackaged Halo 3 for Reach, it will probably be my Auto-GOTY. Halo 3, and  will say it... Halo 3 is the most underrated shooter. Ever.
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The Halo saga has exponentially gotten worse with each iteration.  I know that's completely subjective, I'm just saying.  Combat Evolved was incredible though, I'll give it that.  I'm not wishing faliure on Reach.  I hope it's Christ-like, but I'm not going to get my hopes up like I did with Gaylo 3.

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@Kingeptacon said:

" The Halo saga has exponentially gotten worse with each iteration.  I know that's completely subjective, I'm just saying.  Combat Evolved was incredible though, I'll give it that.  I'm not wishing faliure on Reach.  I hope it's Christ-like, but I'm not going to get my hopes up like I did with Gaylo 3. "

Again, I don't see the Halo 3 hate. Halo CE might be the best but Halo was a step forward for the series and Console FPSes in general. Like you said its subjective. But for someone who seemed to use logic with that statement, ending it off with "Gaylo 3"... sighs...     
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@Matthew said:
" @demontium said:
" @Zereta: Geoff is great at asking Reggie questions, but i do not really care for his opinions of games. "
He seems to relish in the fact that he is able to get at games far before any of us, and just keeps going on and on about how great it is, or just keep on teasing and dropping hints to things he knows, but isn't able to talk about yet...he's kind of a douche. "
I would rather have the hints that not... He cannot tell us anyways. 
 
I see it as him being helpful in that respective, although he is sometimes an ass to Reggie when he does not STFU when Reggie basically says STFU.
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@demontium said:
" @Matthew said:
" @demontium said:
" @Zereta: Geoff is great at asking Reggie questions, but i do not really care for his opinions of games. "
He seems to relish in the fact that he is able to get at games far before any of us, and just keeps going on and on about how great it is, or just keep on teasing and dropping hints to things he knows, but isn't able to talk about yet...he's kind of a douche. "
I would rather have the hints that not... He cannot tell us anyways.  I see it as him being helpful in that respective, although he is sometimes an ass to Reggie when he does not STFU when Reggie basically says STFU. "
Well, it IS his job to not STFU
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@Zereta said:
" @demontium said:
" @Matthew said:
" @demontium said:
" @Zereta: Geoff is great at asking Reggie questions, but i do not really care for his opinions of games. "
He seems to relish in the fact that he is able to get at games far before any of us, and just keeps going on and on about how great it is, or just keep on teasing and dropping hints to things he knows, but isn't able to talk about yet...he's kind of a douche. "
I would rather have the hints that not... He cannot tell us anyways.  I see it as him being helpful in that respective, although he is sometimes an ass to Reggie when he does not STFU when Reggie basically says STFU. "
Well, it IS his job to not STFU "
Yes, thats why I love it when he digs into Reggie, we got some secrets. Regardless, he remains an asswipe.
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Is there anything Geoff doesn't think is awesome? He did sell out a long time ago, and is no longer the journalist he once was. Now, it is all about pleasing the developers and publishers so they actually show up on the Bonus Round. 
 
Take this with a grain of salt. It could be amazing, but it definitely seems like what a PR person would say. Of course, if you are a Halo fanboy, anything positive about the franchise you love so much will be met with praise. Now expect the sheep to suddenly think Geoff is this "beztestz" games journalist of all time (by fanboys)

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I love Halo (seem to be a minority among Giantbomb members), and i really want to see what this game is about. No matter what i'll be there day one because Bungie makes great games.

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@zombie2011 said:
"I love Halo (seem to be a minority among Giantbomb members), and i really want to see what this game is about. No matter what i'll be there day one because Bungie makes great games. "
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@zombie2011 said:
" I love Halo (seem to be a minority among Giantbomb members), and i really want to see what this game is about. No matter what i'll be there day one because Bungie makes great games. "
Pretty much the reason I love Halo. Whenever I see someone diss on Halo, I defend it not because I'm a fanboy but because Bungie has done so much for the series and has done so much more things that almost no other Console FPSes and hell, even some PC FPSes have. Of course, people look at the game that's giving them the blowjobs for jumping off a building and dying and look at Halo's simplistic design and think 'lolwut' but if you ask me Halo is "Perfection in Fun and Connectivity".