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Fallout 4 (PC) Review

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Fallout 4 may feel overly familiar to some, but there are plenty of places to go, people to see, and mutants to shoot, and most of those things are still exciting to visit, look at, and murder (though not necessarily in that order).

Editor's note: The above score reflects the PC version of the game. Due to performance issues specific to the Xbox One and PS4 versions of the game, those versions have both been given three stars out of five. To see that score (note that the text is identical across both versions of the review), click here.

You get a set of power armor almost immediately, which is a nice twist.
You get a set of power armor almost immediately, which is a nice twist.

Buggy, yet beautiful. Occasionally broken, but robust in a way that few games attempt, let alone achieve. This has always been the push and pull of Bethesda's action/adventure/role-playing games. On the previous batch of consoles, it felt easier to work past the technical glitches--on some level, it was just impressive that games of that size and scope could even run on an Xbox 360 to begin with. But with each release, the "fun" of watching the games glitch out and behave in maddening and/or hilarious ways became a little less thrilling. At some point, I just want the games to work reliably. Fallout 4 follows in the footsteps of its predecessors, which is to say that it's a large, sprawling world filled with so many different quests and locations that most players will miss entire subplots as they scavenge their way from one side of the world to the other. That's also to say that it's occasionally kind of broken, from performance issues specific to the console versions to scripting glitches that might just prevent you from progressing to the same sort of "physics gone wild" moments that make for killer animated gifs and such. There's a great game in Fallout 4, but how much of that greatness gets through to you is largely dependent on your own tolerance levels for those glitches and how willing you are to play another game from the same template as Skyrim, Fallout: New Vegas, Fallout 3, and Oblivion.

I liked every one of those games quite a lot, but I will say that I was a little disappointed with how closely Fallout 4 sticks to that formula of factions, exploration, and points of no return that you cross as the factions are inevitably pitted against each other and the story winds down. Here, though, you get to explore a brief, pre-war prologue and see a little bit of what life was like before the bombs fell, turning your Boston-area suburb into yet another super mutant-filled wasteland. You play a created character who entered a Vault-Tec vault devoted to cryogenic experimentation just before the nuclear apocalypse, so you spent the next 200 years on ice... except for one key moment, where some dirtbag and his scientist buddies thaw you all out to steal your infant son out of the arms of your spouse, murdering said spouse in the process, and putting you back to sleep. You wake up, unsure of how much time has passed, but focused on finding the kidnapper and getting your son back.

Having a pre-war player character here is a cool idea that maybe doesn't get played up as much as it could have. As you're presented with things that any Fallout player would simply recognize as the current state of the world, the hero largely accepts everything without batting an eyelash. Every creature, from deathclaws to radroaches, is simply taken at face value, and the game's annoyingly generalized dialogue system rarely gives you the opportunity to express any incredulity at the state of this "modern" world. Actually, the dialogue system, which now just gives you vague ideas of what your character might say, failed me more than a few times by serving up lines that, tonally, didn't fit with what I was expecting. I'd rather just see the full text of the responses and not be surprised or forced to reload when the outcome is poor.

There are plenty of trashed-up freeways and structures to explore.
There are plenty of trashed-up freeways and structures to explore.

Anyway, after your kid gets kidnapped you're released into the open world. From there, the first thing the game does is point you at your first quest and introduce you to the workshop and base building mechanics. It never quite makes clear why you'd want to build a base at all, but you can slap down structures, walls, turrets, sources of food and water, and beds to keep existing settlers happy. If you want more settlers in a base, you can build a generator and a radio beacon that attracts people to the base. Then you'll need to plop down more beds and make sure they have enough food and water. Theoretically, making your bases more attractive will also make them more susceptible to attack, but other than fast traveling into a base and discovering a few super mutants hanging around once or twice, this didn't seem to happen that often.

More frequently, the bases you unlock and populate across the map will gin up combat missions for you like "go kill all the raiders/ghouls who are in this location." I was usually happy to help, but these definitely didn't make me feel compelled to build up and establish bases around the map. Even after finishing the game, I never really figured out why all that base-building stuff is in there. It feels pretty aimless, though I did end up enjoying cleaning up a lot of the scrap around my initial base and being able to store your crap in your workshop means you can loot the world (within reason, encumbrance is still a limiting factor) and not have to stash all your things inside some dead body or random toolbox. Though, of course, you can still do that if you're feeling "old school."

Exploring the Boston-based wasteland ended up being my favorite part of Fallout 4. The surrounding areas are full of apocalyptic wilderness, complete with mutant dogs, giant scorpions, bands of roving raiders, and, really, the same sorts of enemies you've seen in previous games. Rummaging around the wastes and turning up old military bunkers, big radio antennas, satellite arrays that have been overrun by hulking super mutants, and so on ended up being the most enjoyable time I spent with the game. Venturing into the city itself is exciting, too, both because the areas of interest are packing in more densely and because the combat situations get way more frequent and hectic inside the city limits. I continually found myself getting run out of town by various packs of scavengers, raiders, and, eventually, the Institute's murderous synthetic humans, or synths. The fake MIT, spun out across hundreds of years underground, is one of the big boogeymen in the story, and large parts of it deal with that age-old question, "do sentient robots deserve the same rights as humans?"

The workshop lets you build settlements help defend them, if you like.
The workshop lets you build settlements help defend them, if you like.

You can go a few different directions with that over the course of the game, but much like Fallout 3, I found that the way I wanted things to go at the end of the game wasn't even presented as an option, and the writing eventually pares things down into yes/no questions that feel too simple for what becomes a pretty complicated situation along the way. It's frustrating that there wasn't a little more nuance to things, though the weird thing about Fallout and its multiple endings is that I now feel like I need to go back to my hard saves at the different crossroad moments, where you cut ties with one faction to side with another, just to see if any of the other endings contain anything close to an attempt to how I would have resolved things if I wasn't just faced with a series of canned dialogue options. I suppose, on some level, it's a triumph that the game was able to get me thinking about these solutions at all. So many games fail to inspire even that.

There are main quest lines, faction quests, and some side quest lines, and with the exception of the "just go kill these dudes" quests I got from my settlements, I found that most of the quests were worth doing. Tracking down a missing Brotherhood of Steel squad had me trudging all around the east side of the map, finding one fallen soldier after another, each with an audio log pointing me in the direction of the next distress signal until it culminated in something a little more worth seeing. You'll find wild-eyed fans of the past who ask you to take on the role of a pre-war radio drama superhero, complete with trench coat and gleaming silver machine gun. You'll investigate the old memories of dead men, you'll find other Vault-Tec vaults and determine what nightmarish social experiment those Vault-Tec assholes unleashed on each particular vault. Most of these things feel worth doing and are, really, pretty engaging, even if the writing isn't always perfect. Even some of your companions can serve up some loyalty quests. My favorite character in the game ended up being Nick Valentine, a synth who makes his way as a hard-boiled detective type. Having his crime drama insight pop up as I made my way around the world was fun and occasionally funny. Him being a synth also ties him into some of the game's more central events.

The shooting's better and the slow-motion auto-aiming V.A.T.S. system isn't quite as necessary as it has been in previous Fallout games, though it's also been a balanced a bit to feel a bit less like a "murder everyone" button, too. Looting things from chests is a faster process, but overall, inventory and equipment management is kind of a hassle. You can favorite items, which makes them easily accessible from your D-pad, but doing things like comparing items against each other or swapping out your armor is an unfortunate challenge. The armor just sorts into a big list of everything, rather than neatly telling you "oh, here's all your left leg armor" and so on. Since ammo is a constant concern, I found myself carrying seven or eight guns for much of the game, to account for all the different types of bullets you might find out there. Ultimately, the 10mm pistol you get at the beginning of the game is still viable at the very end, as long as you perform a few upgrades along the way.

Exiting the vault is still an exhilarating moment.
Exiting the vault is still an exhilarating moment.

So, when everything is working as it should, Fallout 4 is a great game. But the frequency with which the game starts flipping out in ways both small and large is a big disappointment. Many of these issues have appeared in previous Bethesda games. I've had random AI characters run up against me while I was mid-conversation, breaking me out of the conversation and forcing me to restart the dialogue. Guys will still photobomb your dialogue by walking into frame and shouting whatever their "hey, I'm standing near the player character, I should act alive" sentence may be. Sometimes the camera will be completely pointed at the wrong thing during dialogue. I got to a pivotal moment in the story and got to talk to a big bad guy while he stood completely out of frame due to a nearby desk blocking the shot. The lip sync rarely looks great. And we're still just talking about things that might happen while you're in a dialogue with another character.

In the workshop mode, plopping objects down on slopes and slants means that you might see half of your structures just floating in mid-air. Companions like to block doorways, making it a hassle to move around tight spaces. I had my dog companion walk up the side of a wall and kind of just float in mid-air. Sometimes I'd turn around and find that half of Nick's body was just sort of stuck in a wall or floor. Dismissing a companion lets you give them a location to return to, in case you need them later. Once I dismissed my dog, I never saw him again. Is he still roaming around Sanctuary Hills? He's certainly supposed to be. Doors sometimes act weird, making them tricky to get through. I wasted around an hour trying to activate a quest objective and the game simply refused to budge. After quitting the game, relaunching a few times, fast traveling away and back into the area, and sacrificing my first-born, it eventually worked. I still don't understand why it started working. Things like this can make for fun complication videos, but it also shook my faith in the entire game. I eventually became afraid to try some of the weirder things in the game, fearing that it'd break a quest and prevent me from moving forward. That's a bad place to be with a game that's supposed to offer so much freedom.

Modifying weapons and armor is one of the new things you can do in Fallout 4.
Modifying weapons and armor is one of the new things you can do in Fallout 4.

The different platforms add some unique challenges, as well. The PC version is the clear victor here, with somewhat reasonable system requirements, console command access for weird cheats and mods, and a smooth frame rate. However, the game's mouse and keyboard controls aren't great. The console versions have it much worse on the frame rate end of things. This goes beyond the normal variances and starts impacting gameplay, because it turns out that it's damned hard to aim a gun when the game is running as poorly as it sometimes does. It seems to act worse in indoor areas, and some people are reporting better results on the Xbox One if you install it to an external drive (something I tend to recommend across the board, if you're able). Late-game combat situations where you're facing a dozen or so angry, armed enemies in a tight space turn the game into a slide show. And since things still move in slow-motion when you activate V.A.T.S., it's not a great way to circumvent the console versions' poor performance. I'd go so far as to say that this game becomes a tougher sell if you're intending to play it on PS4 or Xbox One.

But the glitchy technical issues appear across the board in every version of the game. In that, Fallout 4 is universal. As such, a big part of deciding if you want to play Fallout 4 becomes a personal inventory of your desire to either revel in these glitches or your patience at dealing with them, should they appear. As someone who has really appreciated this line of games in both its Fallout and Elder Scrolls flavors, Fallout 4 was still harder to swallow than I initially suspected it would be. It's another one of those games, for better and for worse.

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Jeff reviews are best reviews

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Jeff I'm glad you had the balls to give different scores for the different versions.

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The PC version has been having its own share of problems, though probably not as much as consoles. Keep your eyes on http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Fallout_4. That websites has made a lot of games (especially Bethesda games) a better experience on PC.

edit: Also, use console command 'player.setav carryweight 1000' and forget all about stupid encumbrance

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Yay. The multiple-reviews-for-a-game feature of the GB CMS has found its purpose.

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I can't wait for the pod cast to listen to tomorrow.

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Great work, Jeff, for going the extra mile on this BS.

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Just like what Alex was saying on Twitter last night, I have a problem getting hooked by a Fallout game. The workshop to have you build and defend settlements sounds and looks pretty fun to me. Otherwise it seems like the same ole Fallout. So after watching the QL (and other streams) and reading this review I don't feel like this is the $60 game for me. Maybe during the big Steam sale at the end of the year it'll be on sale and I'll pick it up then? Thanks for the review, Jeff.

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Won't someone think of the metacritics

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I'm really liking the early parts of the game so glad to hear the quests stay good through out. Thanks for the PC specific review. I'm a glitch reveler so it's all good!

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fallout 5.....?

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Psycho Jet blaze house!

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Man, I somehow ended up with the PC and PS4 versions due to, uh, forgetfulness surrounding preorders.

I've been enjoying the heck out of the PS4 version as it arrived a day early. Tried the PC version today. CTD twice on character creation on my near recommended spec machine.

I'll stick with the PS4 game until the mods and patches entice me back I think

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So many open world games this year and next, and I feel like a lot of them didn't need to be open world.

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"It's another one of those games, for better and for worse."

The entire review can be summed up with this one sentence.

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Nice to see the return of platform-specific reviews when they are needed.

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Yeah that QL GB did of the PS4 version was turning me off the game even though I was getting this on PC. I'm glad the PC is at least able to buff out some of the rough spots because that Bethesda jank is getting to that point of becoming intolerant for me.

Also curious to see how many people freak out about the score difference and feel the need to play defense because they can only play on console.

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Seems like a fair review.

Have there been other occasions on Giantbomb where games scored differently per platform?

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6 hours in, no bugs so far and im enjoying it a whole lot!

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After quitting the game, relaunching a few times, fast traveling away and back into the area, and sacrificing my first-born, it eventually worked.

Awesome.

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Well, my experience with the PC version hasn't been as great as I'd hoped for. Now granted, enjoying the actual game parts like I always do with Bethesda openworld messes, but apparently my monitor isn't big enough to run the lockpicking minigame. So now I'm waiting for a console command so I can just skip that shite. It's a fucking pain in the arse though.

It also keeps trying to run in windowed mode. Again, annoying.

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Thank you Jeff for not giving Bethesda a pass on this stuff. "Bethesda jank" shouldn't be a term that is used as an excuse to accept these kinds of things.

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@thornie said:

"It's another one of those games, for better and for worse."

The entire review can be summed up with this one sentence.

Indeed. It's an interesting phenomenon that for some this can be a Godsend and for others (such as myself) it results in utter disappointment.

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Now I'm kind of waiting on @brad if he's gonna do a review on Legacy of the Void though it's been awhile since he's been into SC2 and with all the games he probably still has to play, I kinda doubt he'd be able to do one at this point.

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Real talk: Dialogue paraphrases have been a shitty, shitty idea in every game they have ever been implemented in. If I had a time machine I would go back and just scream at the original Mass Effect team.

The Old Republic has a thing where you can hit escape to immediately restart the conversation. Apparently just having the full text at the bottom of the screen like every pre-Mass Effect RPG didn't occur to them.

I loathe dialogue paraphrases so much. They confer no benefit that outweighs the frustration of saying the wrong thing, hammering skip until you reach the end of the conversation and then reloading.

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@wagrid: The interface looks so much better with paraphrasing though, the instances where it's completely off the mark is rare enough for me to happy with the trade.

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So far I haven't had any major bugs, just comparatively minor Bethesda jankiness. I think this might be the last one of the "Bethesda open world games" they can create in this style before they need to drastically reinvent the formula.

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Very fair review. The paragraph describing issues surrounding dialogue alone is incredibly representative of the Fallout/Elder Scrolls experience, which gets harder to forgive with each subsequent entry. On top of technical issues, the changes to the dialogue system and player characterization in general have been a disappointment so far.

Even so, there's nothing quite like exploring every nook and cranny of a Bethesda game. It's a world you can get lost in with memorable moments and scenarios around every corner. Worth the caveats for me, but like many others I hope it's not the same song and dance 5 years from now when the next one hits.

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@forkboy: open console. Click on locked item. Type unlock.

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The fact Jeff gave each version a different score, is amazing

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Honestly, I'm just glad a Fallout 4 review mentioned New Vegas at all. I adored that game.

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@onemanarmyy said:

Seems like a fair review.

Have there been other occasions on Giantbomb where games scored differently per platform?

I think Kane & Lynch 2 is another instance. The 360 version got a star lower because of a big technical issue.

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@th3_james: Yeah, I looked into that & will try it. But I'm still pretty salty about a basic functionality being fucked.

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Is there any way to stop the radio playing over cut-scenes/dialogue? It is really annoying. I can turn the radio volume down but that's a sub-optimal option as it remains lowered when out of the cut-scenes.

I feel like I am missing something as its really, really annoying to not be able to hear anyone talking because I have the radio constantly on.

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I've been worried that I will have the "It's another one of those games, for better and for worse" feelings when I eventually play Fallout 4.

I haven't read much about the story aspects of the game. I know pretty much what they showed at E3, where you can pick a male/female protagonist in the pre-war setting. Hearing that they don't do that much with the character or have any noteworthy fish out of water moments is really disappointing. These games are always focused on the blank slate aspect to playable characters, but it would have been more interesting if they had the blank slate aspects attached to more dynamic conversations and story beats.

I'll definitely play Fallout 4, but it will probably wait until January 2016.

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Why does everyone review this game only in the context of Bethesda games and not in the context of its contemporaries?

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Why does everyone review this game only in the context of Bethesda games and not in the context of its contemporaries?

Putting this up against MGS and Witcher would be... not pretty. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, I'm saying the putting it in the text of a review is a little more combative than most reviewers want their reviews to read.

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@wagrid: yeah this was the one thing that pushed me away from purchasing right now. really unfortunate and I'd love to hear the dev's rationale.

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Will wait a couple of weeks on this one but sounds exactly like what I want.

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The last Deus Ex managed to have both.

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Indeed, unfortunately I wish other publications didn't brush the 'jank' so easily under the carpet. Bethesda have not been called out on this properly for 10 years. (FYI I love fallout).

@djnardu said:

Jeff I'm glad you had the balls to give different scores for the different versions.

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Now I know which version to get. Thanks, Jeff!

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Been playing for about 8 hours on the PC and only encountered one annoying bug - while building stuff in Sanctuary, an NPC got me stuck in a weird dialogue mode. The entire UI disappeared, and though I could still move, the only button that did anything was the right trigger - which, inexplicably, caused my character to cycle through saying "uh-huh" "okay" "hmm" and "yeah". Quicksaving and quickloading didn't clear it up, so I had to run out of the bounds of the Sanctuary building area in order to get my interface and controls back. Weird!

Aside from that, it looks great and plays great. The moment that sold me on the game came a couple hours in when (minor non-story spoilers for a weather effect) I was exploring a rusty trailer park and suddenly the sky turned an ominous yellow color and lightning started crackling all around me, and my character started absorbing radiation. It strongly reminded me of 'blowouts' from STALKER. So fucking 'rad'. (lol)

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Just started playing, and I have to say that the dialogue problems are really noticeable, I was never sure how my character would answer a question, we need more than "yes" or "no". But that being said, happily Bethesda games have the biggest modding community so is pretty much guaranteed that almost all of those issues could be sorted out, not that Bethesda should get an pass for that, but I feel confident with my purchase with that in mind.

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A couple small bugs (lost the use my my tab key a few times), but it runs damn good on PC. The only changes I made were turning off mouse acceleration and turning off motion blur. Booted right up, no crashes, no stuttering or framerate issues. According to Fraps it's running 72FPS with absolutely no dips (I know the physics are tied to framerate, so I don't dare push for 144). Not sure where it got 72 from, but I'm rolling with it. I don't want to drop it to 60 since I think it feels fine and it's not doing any weird stuff with the physics.

I'm 5 hours in and having a blast. The game was designed with a controller in mind. Base building and management controls feel as if no effort or testing went into it. For example, with the mouse in my right hand, hitting R to scrap then Enter to confirm (or moving the cursor to click confirm) is silly. I should be able to click E to confirm. Stuff like that. The rest of the game is silky smooth, looks good for the old engine. I'm having a good time.

Specs if anyone with a similar setup is on the fence:

  • i5-4690K
  • GTX 970 (358.91 drivers)
  • 8GB RAM
  • Win10
  • Installed game on a Samsung 850 Evo SSD (because screw load times in/out of buildings).
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Anyone else had an issue with the subtitles? I met up with the minutemen and finished the quest but when talking to the NPC the subtitle would not advance past their first line. I even started talking to another NPC and still the same subtitle from the first NPC kept popping up. I tend to read the subtitles faster than they talk so I skip alot of the speaking portion but not being able to do that and having to listen to everything so I don't miss a line of dialogue is going to irk me if it continues.

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@noheadstark: I had that problem for that exact moment but I haven't seen it again after that so maybe it's that scene?

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It's pretty much unplayable on my old PC with a 6850 and Phenom xII x4, 12G ram, no SS drives. But the killer is that it's mostly the sporadic loading-in of assets outside that tanks the framerate. If it weren't for that, it would still look good and might even play well.

Also, subtitles frequently jam up and get stuck on lines from minutes earlier (and other NPCs) so there's really no good option for going as fast as you can read.

I'd caution against anyone getting this for a PC below min specs, that's for sure.

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Good review, Jeff's reviews always balance objective and subjective views in a really well thought out way. Also, fucking great to see Bethesda jank getting called what it is. Great as Brad is, him piping up to defend the glitches in the Quick Look made me roll my eyes a bit, so Jeff calling it out is great. When you've been shipping games in the same fairly busted-ass state for the past 10 years, its not really endearing anymore.