Giant Bombcast Giant Bomb Game of the Year 2010: Day One

"For years and years Brad's opinion on nearly everything has run completely opposite of mine...but i've liked him all this time through it all. "

" @Death_Burnout said:

"For years and years Brad's opinion on nearly everything has run completely opposite of mine...but i've liked him all this time through it all. "

Funny, normally I have no problem with Brad, but I'd like to strangle him during this podcast. "

More like Limpo eh Vinny?...*sigh*

i really want to be in that room arguing with them. 
 
At times I wanted to strangle both Jeff and Brad. I love those guys. 

Brad's a goddamn hater in this!

Wow chill everyone, Brad just cares about the awards and doesn't want the wrong game to win. Just enjoy the awards and stop the hating! Although wanted Morgan to win its the disaagreements that make it fun!

The fact that Jeff could sit through any other stale, boring, grindy, shitty game (like deadly premonition) and for some illogical reason refuses to even play through one of the best games in recent years (RDR) is frankly absurd.  Bravo to Brad for holding his ground and defending his opinion very well.   
 
 If anything, I've lost a lot of respect for Jeff due to his irrational, dismissive attitude.  This isn't about my opinion being different than his, this is about the fact that when your job is to play and review video games, and you outright and without good reason just dismiss perhaps the most critically acclaimed game of the year, that just means you're doing your job wrong.  

Anyone else feel like if Brad had gone after Bayonetta instead of Francis York Morgan John Marston would of gotten through?

Loved the tension between Jeff and Brad on discussing Limbo and Dance Central. Got pretty heated.

Urrrrggg..... really I can't believe Darksiders got tossed like that.  
 
I also think Super Meat Boy is a sequel. 

Glad dark siders got as far as it did but it should have stayed in the top 3. As Jeff said "yet another Indy game with and art style"!

Just glad York didn't get any awards so far.  Everyone knows Zach is the better choice.  No, but seriously, that game and character are sub-par compared to everyone else on the list and I am actually a bit surprised by how much of a defense that York got.
 
I liked that there was such a huge difference of opinions on a lot of these categories, personally, I don't understand why everyone is getting on Brad's ass or Jeff's ass about this.  These end-of-year-awards are a big deal in a lot of ways to these guys, I mean look at how much content they have put into this year's awards, as such they should stand their ground and argue their positions instead of just wavering and falling in line with the popular opinion.  I like to hear these guys talk about the reasoning behind their choices and argue about these things, that's why I listen in - for the insight... and because the bombcast is fucking hilarious too.

" The fact that Jeff could sit through any other stale, boring, grindy, shitty game (like deadly premonition) and for some illogical reason refuses to even play through one of the best games in recent years (RDR) is frankly absurd.  Bravo to Brad for holding his ground and defending his opinion very well.     If anything, I've lost a lot of respect for Jeff due to his irrational, dismissive attitude.  This isn't about my opinion being different than his, this is about the fact that when your job is to play and review video games, and you outright and without good reason just dismiss perhaps the most critically acclaimed game of the year, that just means you're doing your job wrong.   "

" The fact that Jeff could sit through any other stale, boring, grindy, shitty game (like deadly premonition) and for some illogical reason refuses to even play through one of the best games in recent years (RDR) is frankly absurd.  Bravo to Brad for holding his ground and defending his opinion very well.     If anything, I've lost a lot of respect for Jeff due to his irrational, dismissive attitude.  This isn't about my opinion being different than his, this is about the fact that when your job is to play and review video games, and you outright and without good reason just dismiss perhaps the most critically acclaimed game of the year, that just means you're doing your job wrong.   "

why does everyone gots to put RDR on a pedestal? Sure it's a good game, and Marston is a cool character, but at the same time, not really.

Keepin' it viscous.

God someone shoot brad he is supper irritating and half his arguments make no sense, its like he was arguing for the sake of it.

Dammit, I think York should've won the best new character award. I say it not just because he was one of the few things done right in Deadly Premonition, but because I'd like to see someone win over the juggernaut of Mass Effect 2 (or any major releases, for that matter). Always root for the underdog, I say.

" @flawless2c said:

" The fact that Jeff could sit through any other stale, boring, grindy, shitty game (like deadly premonition) and for some illogical reason refuses to even play through one of the best games in recent years (RDR) is frankly absurd.  Bravo to Brad for holding his ground and defending his opinion very well.     If anything, I've lost a lot of respect for Jeff due to his irrational, dismissive attitude.  This isn't about my opinion being different than his, this is about the fact that when your job is to play and review video games, and you outright and without good reason just dismiss perhaps the most critically acclaimed game of the year, that just means you're doing your job wrong.   "

You should also realize that this is Giant Bomb's game of the year awards.  Not "Critically Acclaimed's!" game of the year awards.  They can do whatever they please with whatever reasoning they please.  That's why this site exists; to not fall into the same trappings that GameSpot did, trying to claim that every subjective thing they say is automatically unarguable gospel.  If you want someone to talk down to you and tell you what you should like as per marketing dollars, head to every game-related site larger than this one.  If you want a site about critical thought and journalism and gaming insight and, above all else, personality, then stay here and don't fucking complain.  The little red X in the top right of your screen can take you away forever.  Having personal favorites and generally unheard of opinions isn't "doing your job wrong", despite what CNET and IGN and Spike TV and UGO try to tell you as they bathe in tainted money.  It's the whole reason professional criticism exists. "

no Thane Krios? That guy was super awesome

Hell yeah, VVVVVV. That one other site got Potential For Anything voted as best video game song of the year, and rightfully so! Even though I paid three times as much for SMB as I did V, and I've played SMB for about a hundred times longer than V, I'm still going to say that VVVVVV is the better game. It's just got... something. Something very special.
 
And I'm glad York got as far as he did, too. The people who don't think York is much of a character are those who are letting the suckiness of his game get in the way. I was honestly shocked at the end of that game! That character arc really worked on me in a spectacular way that I most definitely didn't expect. I wouldn't have expected it even from a good game, much less such a pile of jank as Deadly Premonition.
 
The writing in that game was actually good. So there.

My god...This is just day one?  The maddness...

hearing brad talk down on york for 20 min made me sad. but i can see how you could not enjoy a character when you are forced to play the game.

AH i love these disagreements!! makes for a fun bombcast.  and everyone should just chill the fuck out because everyone is entitled to their own opinion so let them fight over it. 

Although I guess it can't be helped, I wish they would stay out of spoilers territory.

Mass Effect 2 is not on the PS3 yet, and the discussion on Best Character has some serious spoilers about Mordin's backstory...

I don't get why people get so worked up about these awards for. I disagree with a lot of the things said but there's no need for me to write an essay about why Limbo is great or why Francis York Morgan is a better character than Bayonetta. 

I remember them talking about minecraft for a bit about disqualifying it, but I can't find it during the second listen. Anyone care to give me timestamp?

These comments are the best of the year. If only there were some way to make your OWN list so that you could voice your disagreement in a mature, constructive way. Well, since there isn't, keep screaming about how "wrong" the staff is in the comments.

It seems as if Vinny is the only person that played all the high-profile releases to completion.  From what I remember in past Bombcasts Jeff played like an hour of RDR, Ryan never got into Starcraft 2 and Brad never played AC: Brotherhood.  Yet Vinny played through all of these.  It should be the other way around really because Vinny's just a producer...and to Jeff Green he's just an intern!

Keepin' it viscous.

Fun recording. And fun to get riled up about, too. Thanks for releasing these.
 
...I'll be so glad to not hear Deadly Premonition mentioned any more after 2010...

I really wish you guys would at least acknowledge STALKER Call of Pripyat exists, because personally it's far and away the GOTY this year, and as far as PC games goes it represents everything I love about PC gaming, stuff that I can't get anywhere else. 

" I really wish you guys would at least acknowledge STALKER Call of Pripyat exists, because personally it's far and away the GOTY this year, and as far as PC games goes it represents everything I love about PC gaming, stuff that I can't get anywhere else.  "

" Brad was super childish, I agree, but I also hate how Jeff smugly said "Nier, anyone?" god, if you aren't going to play it, just don't talk about it. I will admit I'm wrong if Jeff says he did play any of it, but MAN. "

I'm disappointed that Brad didn't make much of an effort to get John Marston in the top three. It seems like he was more concerned with not having Francis York Morgan there because he hates Deadly Premonition.     
But then again, it didn't help that Jeff knows almost nothing regarding Red Dead Redemption ("Isn't he just a generic cowboy though?")

Comparing Mass Effect's Morton to Nazi's is very very ignorant historically. As Brad said, they did something and then "HAD" to fix it or the universe was done for. And it wasn't even a genocide as you tossed out there, it was genetic manipulation to limit population, which even China has basically done for years and will probably do so more closely to this fiction as science gets more sophisticated. Morton could actually be compared to the USA. Look at Afghanistan, we gave them weapons not 30 years ago to fight Russia, then we realized we fucked up, and we went in and fought them and manipulated them and will continue to do so for years to come. We did the same with Iraq. Both situations were really our fault, and yet not too many Americans feel remorse when they hear of Iraqi or Afghan civilians dying. Sad but true. Morton might in fact be a mirror. 
 
We basically responded to Communism and now Extremist Islam the same way he "had" to with the Krogans.

also, they pretty much 100% decide on Morton here... Why is Bayonetta in the Day One review video????

I love a good nerd argument; this podcast was awesome, though I do wish Francis York Morgan would have won.

jeff sounds really biased against red dead redemption for no reason at all..
its kind of sad having a game of the year podcast when one of the members hasnt even played one of the top 3 games. red dead would be in the running for number one i guarantee but jeff will have none of it.

Sorry, Jeff. If the only reason of Dance Central being the Best Debut because it was the game that proved the Kinect can work, I cannot stand by it. That doesn't excuse the significant flaws of the hardware, nor does it excuse the fact that the rest of the initial lineup of Kinect games were from mediocre to terrible.

What annoys me is that Brad says no to Darksiders, having not played it, but doesn't abide Jeff's stance on Limbo, despite him having almost completed it. 
 
Like someone has already suggested, they should have made nominations beforehand, then played them all. Then again, it wouldn't be Giantbomb if they had...

@Jeff THANK YOU for arguing against Limbo, It was a mediocre puzzler that i never finished with a kind of cool artstyle

" @flawless2c said:

" The fact that Jeff could sit through any other stale, boring, grindy, shitty game (like deadly premonition) and for some illogical reason refuses to even play through one of the best games in recent years (RDR) is frankly absurd.  Bravo to Brad for holding his ground and defending his opinion very well.     If anything, I've lost a lot of respect for Jeff due to his irrational, dismissive attitude.  This isn't about my opinion being different than his, this is about the fact that when your job is to play and review video games, and you outright and without good reason just dismiss perhaps the most critically acclaimed game of the year, that just means you're doing your job wrong.   "

You should also realize that this is Giant Bomb's game of the year awards.  Not "Critically Acclaimed's!" game of the year awards.  They can do whatever they please with whatever reasoning they please.  That's why this site exists; to not fall into the same trappings that GameSpot did, trying to claim that every subjective thing they say is automatically unarguable gospel.  If you want someone to talk down to you and tell you what you should like as per marketing dollars, head to every game-related site larger than this one.  If you want a site about critical thought and journalism and gaming insight and, above all else, personality, then stay here and don't fucking complain.  The little red X in the top right of your screen can take you away forever.  Having personal favorites and generally unheard of opinions isn't "doing your job wrong", despite what CNET and IGN and Spike TV and UGO try to tell you as they bathe in tainted money.  It's the whole reason professional criticism exists. "

" @TadThuggish said:

" @flawless2c said:

" The fact that Jeff could sit through any other stale, boring, grindy, shitty game (like deadly premonition) and for some illogical reason refuses to even play through one of the best games in recent years (RDR) is frankly absurd.  Bravo to Brad for holding his ground and defending his opinion very well.     If anything, I've lost a lot of respect for Jeff due to his irrational, dismissive attitude.  This isn't about my opinion being different than his, this is about the fact that when your job is to play and review video games, and you outright and without good reason just dismiss perhaps the most critically acclaimed game of the year, that just means you're doing your job wrong.   "

You should also realize that this is Giant Bomb's game of the year awards.  Not "Critically Acclaimed's!" game of the year awards.  They can do whatever they please with whatever reasoning they please.  That's why this site exists; to not fall into the same trappings that GameSpot did, trying to claim that every subjective thing they say is automatically unarguable gospel.  If you want someone to talk down to you and tell you what you should like as per marketing dollars, head to every game-related site larger than this one.  If you want a site about critical thought and journalism and gaming insight and, above all else, personality, then stay here and don't fucking complain.  The little red X in the top right of your screen can take you away forever.  Having personal favorites and generally unheard of opinions isn't "doing your job wrong", despite what CNET and IGN and Spike TV and UGO try to tell you as they bathe in tainted money.  It's the whole reason professional criticism exists. "

I get what you're saying and you're right, but "gaming insight" from the GB cast kind of falls short when they aren't even playing some of the games they are talking(or not talking) about.   I know they'll have the blind followers forever listening and reading stuff on the site, but I was shocked when they were discussing some of these games and they hadn't even finished the core games. At some point it was said that only a couple of hours were put into some of them. That isn't insight at all.   "

im a little late to the party