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Quick Look: DeathSpank: Thongs of Virtue

Jeff and Dave see if this one has enough material to cover up the cracks.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Sep. 23 2010

Cast: Dave, Jeff

Posted by: Drew

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DeathSpank: Thongs of Virtue

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Horadric cube > grinder.

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OG Deathspank was a great game. Definitely gonna pick up part 2 soon.

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@Azteck: Tell me about it! I love humor in games, but this is just over the top ridiculous.
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Another DeathSpank QL?  Bit weird considering none of them really like the game(s.)

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I played the first game and thought it was ok. Still would have preferred Hothead to have made Penny Arcade Episode 3. 

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Justice.

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I just don't see the logic in having Jeff do this; it's very similar to the first game at least in mechanics, and he didn't like the first one, so why not have someone else do this?  I get to hear 15 minutes of "oh that's not funny" and "this is the exact same game" instead of getting a fresh unbiased opinion.  I'm one of those few, though, that likes the humor.

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Edited By The_Laughing_Man

So..first game reskinned? 

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I would rather have a Penny Arcade Adventures episode 3.

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I loved the first game, I even S ranked it which I never do in games, but not only have I no interest in this, it's also making me like the first one less and less. Is that weird?

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God that name. I just want to punch whoever thought that was funny.

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I really enjoyed the first one, more than jeff anyway, but this is bumming me out.  This isnt what I would want from another Deathspank.

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Whoever writes the dialog for this game, needs to be shot, along with the dude who came up with the title, and the guy who came up with the general theme for the story.

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@dagas said:
" Games should be good games first and foremost and then add some humor, not trying to build a game around humor. "
I think you're talking about relatively exclusive concepts. Gameplay and writing are two very different things, and are relatively mutual in that a certain style of gameplay and a certain style of writing are typically independent (ignoring consistency standards). The resources are independent (as you don't typically have writers taking time to design, or designers taking time to write). 
 
I would say that DeathSpank was first designed as an experimental console-friendly Diablo-styled action-RPG with adventure elements to help vary the pacing. Can you think of a better Diablo-styled action-RPG for consoles? I, personally, cannot.
 
To deduce, what I'm asking is this: what 'exactly' are you looking for in this game? Less writing? More grounded context to collecting hundreds of seemingly trivial quests, and hundreds of varied items? I'd say that's damn near impossible. I don't even understand how Blizzard maintains the context to games like World of Warcraft without belittling their audience ('go fetch me some boar liver for stew plz!'). You need humour to lighten the tone in order to make such conventions approachable.
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@radioactivez0r said:
"I just don't see the logic in having Jeff do this; it's very similar to the first game at least in mechanics, and he didn't like the first one, so why not have someone else do this?  I get to hear 15 minutes of "oh that's not funny" and "this is the exact same game" instead of getting a fresh unbiased opinion.  I'm one of those few, though, that likes the humor. "

This
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I like the humour, tbh, it's very cute. I think I'd play this game if I was feeling down. It's so... uplifting, for some reason. I never actually got it, though. 

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YAY DAVE!
i got 100% on the first one... After a little longer break I think I'll pick this one up too, it was funny and fun.

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@radioactivez0r said:
" I just don't see the logic in having Jeff do this; it's very similar to the first game at least in mechanics, and he didn't like the first one, so why not have someone else do this?  I get to hear 15 minutes of "oh that's not funny" and "this is the exact same game" instead of getting a fresh unbiased opinion.  I'm one of those few, though, that likes the humor. "
I sort of agree. I really liked the first one, and just bought the second one before watching this QL or trying the demo. I just liked the first enough that I knew what I was getting and wanted it. So there ARE some people out there who are enjoying these games.
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It can be a bit funny at times but forced shit like the title really makes it seem tasteless and well, forced.
 
Sort of like a little kid yelling "I'm funny, really, no I am...awh come on guys."

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wat

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Deathspank is the type of game that really benefits from having more than one person 

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Not funny.

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There were definitely armor sets in the first game.

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@project343 said:

 To deduce, what I'm asking is this: what 'exactly' are you looking for in this game? Less writing? More grounded context to collecting hundreds of seemingly trivial quests, and hundreds of varied items? I'd say that's damn near impossible. I don't even understand how Blizzard maintains the context to games like World of Warcraft without belittling their audience ('go fetch me some boar liver for stew plz!'). You need humour to lighten the tone in order to make such conventions approachable. "

I'm not sure "deduce" is the word you're looking for, but I think the point was that this game is trying to rely on its clever writing as a selling point, when the problem with Deathspank is the gameplay. If you're asking how the writing can be improved, I suppose it needs a better sense of humor and timing. It can make fun of MMOs and MMO concepts all it wants, and there's nothing wrong with that. I suppose some people find the writing funny, but as Jeff pointed out, every line is deliberately drawn out as if the game is trying to throw its humor at you. If you're the kind of guy who falls for "thongs are funny! Check out these thongs!" that's your prerogative, but instead we get "thongs are funny! This is a joke about thongs! They look silly! You're reading these jokes, right?"
 
 Also, there's only one game Blizzard makes that's "like World of Warcraft," and it's World of Warcraft. I think you mean all MMO game companies, not Blizzard. You don't collect boar livers in Diablo.
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I would actually think about playing this or the first one if it wasnt trying so hard to be funny and failing.

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They could just attach T.O.V. to the end of Deathspank and release them as one game. They are the same game but with different setting and story. This is a literal continuation of Deathspank.  
 
Edit: On the subject of Monkey Island jokes, if you check the books shelves of the library you can find a book titles "The Secret of Monkey Island Revealed"

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@The_Laughing_Man said:
"So..first game reskinned?  "
You could probably say that.
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@PlasmaBeam44 said:
" God that name. I just want to punch whoever thought that was funny. "
NAME MAKES ME WANT TO PUNCH A KITTEN
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@radioactivez0r said:
" I just don't see the logic in having Jeff do this; it's very similar to the first game at least in mechanics, and he didn't like the first one, so why not have someone else do this?  I get to hear 15 minutes of "oh that's not funny" and "this is the exact same game" instead of getting a fresh unbiased opinion.  I'm one of those few, though, that likes the humor. "
I don't get what you mean.  Jeff played the first game, and had an opinion on it.  Now he's playing the second game, and his opinion so far is that the game is exactly the same and hasn't improved in any way.  And now you're saying he's unfit to play it because he is capable of comparing it to the first game?
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hooray, dave!

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Fuck, Deathspank is such a bummer.

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This reminds me of Madtv.

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This game's brand of "whacky humor" is REALLY unappealing. As to why they had Jeff do this even though he disliked the first one, he's the guy who reviewed it. Who's more qualified? And from what I heard from the others, they didn't like it much either, so we probably would've been hearing about how weak the humor was anyway.

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I purchased the first DeathSpank and because of the way in which this release was handled I will most likely never purchase a game from this developer ever again.
 
I don't mind episodic gaming at all but between them hiding that fact, the flat humor, and the $15 price tags = I'm out. Now there's this fishy DLC and well the whole damn thing just stinks of a money-grab to me. 
 
I wanted to give the comedy gaming pedigree contained within a shot considering that I had just played and enjoyed the Monkey Island Special Editions but I guess now I know that it was Tim Schafer what brought the funny I enjoyed.
 
I hate to be such a dick about it but ya know what? Fuck 'em...they started it.

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@DOUBLESHOCK That's not what I'm saying.  Because it wasn't a secret that the games were similar, Jeff not liking this was basically a foregone conclusion.  Why not have someone else check this one out, who isn't as familiar with the concept?  An intern, perhaps?

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@The_Laughing_Man said:
" This one is longer? Bigger game? BS. I was promised 15  hours in the first game and got 8 hours.  "
7hrs is letting the speech go unskipped
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@kn00tcn said:
" @The_Laughing_Man said:
" This one is longer? Bigger game? BS. I was promised 15  hours in the first game and got 8 hours.  "
7hrs is letting the speech go unskipped "
It states in the buy menu the game is 15 hours. I got a 20 dollar gift code because I bitched to EA. 
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He attacked the Zappers! What the hell!?!?! The farmer told you NOT TO. They were his one love!

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It's interesting that they brought up The Tick because the bland boring look & feel of the Deathspank games makes me think a lot about the live action Tick sitcom.

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I loved the first DeathSpank, but I don't know. Lots of big games coming out now and this basically a carbon copy of the first game.

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I enjoyed the first one, but I'm pretty done with the series if they don't add features.

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Yeah.   
 
They should have stuck with Penny Arcade.

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1 episode of Penny Arcade > All of the Deathspank games

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Is this just a clever way of selling a mediocre game in sections? Not saying it's a bad game but would you pay $60 for it even $40?

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@AngerPanda I agree, I really wish it didn't get dropped like it did.
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They gave Deathspank a clonejob.
I'm not a fan of DeathSpank, soo.. this game's not for me.

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I really like the visual style of the game, so I still want to at least give the first game a try.

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Hey Dave, 

 The Spelling Orque is actually the french spelling of Orc. I played the Demo and they seems to use a lot of french words in  the game. Don't ask me why though.

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This game still seems like its trying way too hard to be funny. And kind of failing.

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loved the first one, will buy this one too