Quick Look: EX: Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike Online Edition

man I was sold on this game but now JUST TAKE MY MONEY

I think they really should have found a way to make it widescreen.

I think the EVO moment sold it for me.
 
Capcom should just put out say, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure on PSN / XBLA with online play too.

I never like the EX part of it either. But I do understand it is quite common practice for a dev. to show off their game, and once or twice I more than accepted it. But plain QL's are more unhibited.

Meh. No Backbone, no buy. 
 
;)

I dont have time to watch the whole video but how much and when?!?!?!!

@YOUNGLINK: $15 and August 23rd.

I hinged my buying this game on Brad beating Vinny. Sorry Capcom, no dice.

Ahh, I'm just kidding. I haven't bought a fighting game in years. This may be a purchase. I just need friends to play it with. Any takers?

The Brad vs Vinny Exhibition match was awesome

Not sure why Seth continues to insist that SF3 sold poorly because of parry mechanics.  I hesitate to think that parry was a contributing factor at all.  There were three reasons:
 
1.  Initial console.  3S was exclusive to Sega Dreamcast from 2000 to 2004.  By the time it hit PS2 it was too late.
 
2.  Character choice.  New Generation released with only Ken and Ryu returning.  Everybody else was new and weird.  Second Impact and Third Strike later added Chun Li and Akuma.  This alienated the casual Street Fighter fanbase.   This is also the reason that Capcom went completely overboard with returning characters for SFIV- they didn't want to make the same mistake again. 
 
3.  PS2 version hit during a time when market interest in 2D fighting games was in a terrible slump. 

 
@GaspoweR said:

@Nottle said:

I don't understand why people seem to dislike this game, it looks awesome and much faster than SFII and IV. Jeff seemed to say that people that liked SF III were crazy.SFIV's style us the only style that could match hand drawn sprites like this. Is SFIV had real looking sprites it would looks awful next gen.

I think it was because of its reputation that this game was extremely hard to get into at the time. The learning curve was pretty steep and with the amount of information that one would need in order to get into the game was severely lacking at the time. It kinda killed this game's popularity among the general gaming population plus people who would have to get into the scene were probably turned off by the aforementioned reasons. That's why SF 4 was made the way it is so it would be much more accessible to new players or players with fond memories of SF 2 or preferred to play SF 2.

There's another big reason, and that's that parrying kinda-sorta, just a little, completely destroys what makes Street Fighter Street Fighter. Viscant, recent Evo 2011 MvC3 Champ and longtime fighting game veteran, wrote in-depth posts on SRK explaining why. It boils down to this: the positioning games of 2D fighters are crippled by parry, a move that, despite what Ono thinks, is actually too EASY, not too hard; it's a multi-purpose, free defensive tool with NO whiff animation that turns every character into a half-grappler variant. In other SFs, the mind games are much more broad, encompassing not only your "guess" but your positioning, since, without parry, a meaty jump in, being cornered, etc. become much scarier things... so put your opponents into those positions while avoiding them yourself.
 

I am genuinely interested in this game now. SF III has never been my favorite, but with the teaching tools they've included maybe I can graduate to doing half-way decently online rather than just fighting the AI.

Wow. That Vinny/Brad fight got me pumped to play some Street Fighter. 

I think the EVO moment sold it for me.  Capcom should just put out say, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure on PSN / XBLA with online play too.

@Axelhander said:

There's another big reason, and that's that parrying kinda-sorta, just a little, completely destroys what makes Street Fighter Street Fighter. Viscant, recent Evo 2011 MvC3 Champ and longtime fighting game veteran, wrote in-depth posts on SRK explaining why. It boils down to this: the positioning games of 2D fighters are crippled by parry, a move that, despite what Ono thinks, is actually too EASY, not too hard; it's a multi-purpose, free defensive tool with NO whiff animation that turns every character into a half-grappler variant. In other SFs, the mind games are much more broad, encompassing not only your "guess" but your positioning, since, without parry, a meaty jump in, being cornered, etc. become much scarier things... so put your opponents into those positions while avoiding them yourself.
 

While you can argue the merits of parry at length, with good points for both sides, I insist that it had minimal impact on actual sales. 

what? they're making DLC for this? what could they possibly add?

Best video in quite some time. The atmosphere was really great as well.

Thank you, Capcom, for not going the Backbone Entertainment route with this. Backbone has a habit of being sloppy and cutting corners. As somebody who loved Puzzle Fighter, I loathe Backbone's Puzzle Fighter HD port, because there's a bunch of (arguably small) stuff missing. So to hear, "We wanted the game to be perfect, but we've added a lot of stuff around it" is music to my ears, because that's exactly the opposite of what I've seen guys like Backbone do.

Awesome! It's great to see Seth and Derek on here. Those guys have a passion for fighting games that's hard to match. 
 
I never got to play SF3, so I'm really ready to grab this and give it a shot. It's always looked like so much fun.

I'm overwhelmed by Capcom fighting games.

My favorite fighting game of all time! (well...one of them anyway XD)
*turns on his Dreamcast*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh Capcom, you think I'll give you money for this?! You so silly. No 16:9, no noticeable graphical updates, AND you messed with the menu music? Yeah, I'll stick to my Dreamcast copy, thanks.

@vinsanityv22 said:
Also, I really find it hard to believe this game is better than Super SFIV. More technical doesn't automatically make it better. Just look at the "thriving" Virtua Fighter community. Oh wait, you can't. Because relatively no one plays it. Fighting games thrive on competition, and like it or not, you need new players to maintain an interesting community. SFIV does a great job of providing depth, but still accommodating people who just wanna play it like Street Fighter 2. And for that, I thank Yoshinori Ono and co.  Although SFIII's parry system is a cool addition to the game; just like DOA's counter button or Soul Calibur's Guard Impacts. Both of which came before SFIII, btw. Both of those games' first entry came out in 96. SFIII came out in 97.

I  also think that SFIII is the series' black sheep for more than just timing and technical reasons. The character designs are really bad. Or, if not bad, than really weird. There are demons, robots, giant weirdos (whatever Hugo is), etc. It really doesn't feel like they belong alongside Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li and co. I'm very glad SFIV's lineup was more of a "best of" roster, and that their new characters - at worst - felt like SNK fighters.

Neat Quick Look though. Seriously though, the fighting game scene is getting stale again almost as quickly as it got exciting.

Will no publisher even develop a new fighting franchise to excite us? Just bringing back older series'?

Can't wait long enough for this shit. There's a bar next to my place that has the 3rd strike cabinet and its gonna be great not throwing down quarters every time I want to play it. Also so great to see S. Killian on Giant Bomb. Big ups homie!

Ahaha, holy shit, this comes out on my birthday. IT IS MEANT TO BE. THIS IS MY DESTINY.

@wompa421 said:

so capcom keeps bringing back street fighter games but where is the damn resident evil 2 re-release

My prediction. Op. Raccoon City is an intro for the younger ones who haven't played RE2, then RE6 is a return to the Leon and Claire story as RE2 is still the most popular and most requested remake in the series. Also they're HDing both Leon and Claire solo games this year.

@Icemael said:

A bunch of nonsense already discussed and either refuted or wholly irrelevant.

Acupuncture has been around for thousands of years. People have sworn by it for thousands of years. Therefore, it works. Even though it doesn't.

This all looks incredible, I can't wait to pick it up. What's this about DLC that I'm hearing?

This actually looks better than I expected. The only thing that I'd love to see is redesigned backgrounds, or higher resolution for the stages.

Some Fav music  for SF3  
  

 Also, I really find it hard to believe this game is better than Super SFIV. More technical doesn't automatically make it better. Just look at the "thriving" Virtua Fighter community. Oh wait, you can't. Because relatively no one plays it. Fighting games thrive on competition, and like it or not, you need new players to maintain an interesting community. SFIV does a great job of providing depth, but still accommodating people who just wanna play it like Street Fighter 2. And for that, I thank Yoshinori Ono and co.  Although SFIII's parry system is a cool addition to the game; just like DOA's counter button or Soul Calibur's Guard Impacts. Both of which came before SFIII, btw. Both of those games' first entry came out in 96. SFIII came out in 97.   

For anyone else who didn't know what they were talking about with the "EVO Moment" thing:
  

I STILL think this is the best Street Fighter, Fuck SF4!

I STILL think this is the best Street Fighter, Fuck SF4!

Got to buy this game.

i said i wasnt going to get UMVC3 but i think im def picking this up.

Sold. But to be honest I was sold a while ago; when they announced Trials for one, when I heard the music for two and generally because the FGC is so excited about it; will have to try it out.

I'm pretty deep into SSFIV:AE, I'm not great or anything, but It's one of the (if not, the) first time I've spent over 600 hours playing a game. Started with SSFIV and it's insanely difficult to learn; compared to typical games.

Whatever; looking forward to trying some of the lineage of what I can call one of my favourite ever games. I couldn't get into MvC3 or MK but I'm hopeful for the only other game with Dudley in it to be the next fighting game I learn.

@Deusoma: @Deusoma said:

For anyone else who didn't know what they were talking about with the "EVO Moment" thing:

This stills gives me goosebumps.

why did they have to butcher this masterpiece with some crappy dime a dozen art.  New paintings look very stiff and non-stylized.  All the real gamers have moved on to part 4 and still play the original on dreamcast ,PS2 or the arcade.  This new online edition is sad.  They tried to throw some hi res images in the mix but everything just looks off and like $hi#.  Lets move forward people.  This version is for slow posers who need stats on on the left side of the screen over a crappy texture.  SFIV.....life goes on..........that's why you hide in the past.

why did they have to butcher this masterpiece with some crappy dime a dozen art.  New paintings look very stiff and non-stylized.  All the real gamers have moved on to part 4 and still play the original on dreamcast ,PS2 or the arcade.  This new online edition is sad.  They tried to throw some hi res images in the mix but everything just looks off and like $hi#.  Lets move forward people.  This version is for slow posers who need stats on on the left side of the screen over a crappy texture.  SFIV.....life goes on..........that's why you hide in the past.

Damn, all that bonus stuff's making this look good. Definitely getting this when it's out. $15 for a better deal than MVC3? Heck yeah.

Also, FUCK YEAH VINNY #1!

Damn! That Game looks AMAZING!!! It is so beautiful!

@Darklyte510 said:

@vinsanityv22 said:

Also, I really find it hard to believe this game is better than Super SFIV. More technical doesn't automatically make it better. Just look at the "thriving" Virtua Fighter community. Oh wait, you can't. Because relatively no one plays it. Fighting games thrive on competition, and like it or not, you need new players to maintain an interesting community. SFIV does a great job of providing depth, but still accommodating people who just wanna play it like Street Fighter 2. And for that, I thank Yoshinori Ono and co. Although SFIII's parry system is a cool addition to the game; just like DOA's counter button or Soul Calibur's Guard Impacts. Both of which came before SFIII, btw. Both of those games' first entry came out in 96. SFIII came out in 97.

I think that you're right in saying that a fighting game lives and dies by its community, but I don't think it's fair to say that one game is better than another just because of how big the support behind it is. I might be wrong but I think the people who consider 3S to be better than IV are people who are REALLY into fighting games. The parry system might not seem like much to the casual player but in my opinion it completely changes the meta-game and how on-point you have to be with your footsies. It also balances things out a lot more I find. In my experience, 3S matches between two equally skilled players can go either way regardless of who they pick (well, maybe except for Sean lol); whereas in SFIV, things are way more match-up dependant and that really pisses me off sometimes. Just my 2 cents on why i think 3S is better.

I bolded that, because you pretty much hit the nail on the head. 3rd Strike was the perfect fighting gamers' fighting game.

DAVE LANG AND IRON GALAXY STUDIOS MADE THIS. Man, those guys crushed it - most full featured online fighting game to date.

@UnsolvedParadox: Far as I've heard it's just the ability to unlock Gill (the final boss), without having to beat the game with all characters

Okay that parry challenge 10 is amazing. If I was more of a fighting game player, I would buy this immediately.

Fuck the rest of the game, they could call this Evo Moment #37 simulator and i'd buy it.

wtf is with the crotch guy :|

Too bad it's not in wide screen

@motang: It can be if you stretch it. You can't change the native resolution, that would mess with the people playing the game for like 12 years, corners of stages would be different, they'd be left with a marvel 2 situation, (where they padded the corners so the end of the stage was still in 4:3, but the artwork went on and confused the shit out of everyone.)