ouch...now I'm on the fence of getting this

edit: source is from 12-20-11 bombcast

Wha? How do we know this and why?

Edit: Just saw OP's edit.

Eh?

is the bombcast up? i dont see it on my itunes and i refreshed a few times.

Where are you getting this future Bombcast?

Literally nothing happens by level 3. If he stopped playing it, then, you know, he just doesn't want to play an MMO.

@Gizmo said:

Where are you getting this future Bombcast?

It's up. No notification though.

They're people with opinions too.

@Rolyatkcinmai said:

They're people with opinions too.

Source? At least back up such statements...

Does anyone have a timestamp for this? I kind of want to hear it, but I don't want to listen to the whole bombcast right now.

Because of one man? Did you honestly expect this game to please every single person? This is a large portion of what's wrong with gaming as a hobby. Some people forget that it's about themselves having fun, not other people.

If brad doesn't like it it can't be good right guys.

Letting Brad influence your purchasing decision so much is pretty dumb.

@SamDrugbringer said:

Literally nothing happens by level 3. If he stopped playing it, then, you know, he just doesn't want to play an MMO.

@SlashDance said:

@SamDrugbringer said:

Literally nothing happens by level 3. If he stopped playing it, then, you know, he just doesn't want to play an MMO.

That.

The game does start off weak, I agree there.

I really love the crew but I'm taking everything they say about this game with a grain of salt.

@mosdl said:

The game does start off weak, I agree there.

It might depend on the class. I kind of liked the inquisitor early stuff.

That said, I mean, your first bonus mission, kill the rockworms. The stuff in between class missions can be hit or miss, but the class stuff was a blast.

Slave.

I heard it's a big meh. Stick with WoW if you're gonna mmo.

You don't know anything substantial about any MMO by level 3. At least give it until you are about 20-25% of the way to the level cap.

@ninjakiller said:

I heard it's a big meh. Stick with WoW if you're gonna mmo.

I like it a lot better than WoW. So no, I'm not going to stick with WoW if I want an MMO.

If you stop playing any MMO after level 3 (unless its cap is like 10) you haven't played that MMO as far as I'm concerned.

Letting Brad influence your purchasing decision so much is pretty dumb.

wow that seems silly why would he do that? he must have really not liked the game, i on the other hand am at level 24 and still love the shit out of this game a whole lot more than WoW. just because brad stopped at level 3 doesn't mean it's a horrible game and should never be played it just means he personally didn't like it. just because someone else doesn't like a game doesn't mean you won't either and just because another person likes a game doesn't mean you will.

Mabey he just doesn't like waiting in ques

Jeffs description of the instancing and AA gun quest made me sad.

Yeah, gotta give it some time. I was Admiral in ST:o by the time I decided... hey this kinda sucks.

@Trilogy said:

I really love the crew but I'm taking everything they say about this game with a grain of salt.

This. I respect the crew's opinions, but they've made it pretty clear they're not interested in where the Genere is right now, so it's no surprise they don't like this game.

@CL60 said:

@ninjakiller said:

I heard it's a big meh. Stick with WoW if you're gonna mmo.

I like it a lot better than WoW.

Not picking on you just using this as a place to vent my feelings on this.

Is this an American English thing? Because I feel like I've been hearing it a lot on Giantbomb lately and it just sounds wrong. It's more right? "I like it a lot more than WoW" "I like the other one more" If this is an American English thing, STOP IT!! It sounds stupid. If not, fuck this whole language.

@damswedon said:

@CL60 said:

@ninjakiller said:

I heard it's a big meh. Stick with WoW if you're gonna mmo.

I like it a lot better than WoW.

Not picking on you just using this as a place to vent my feelings on this.

Is this an American English thing? Because I feel like I've been hearing it a lot on Giantbomb lately and it just sounds wrong. It's more right? "I like it a lot more than WoW" "I like the other one more" If this is an American English thing, STOP IT!! It sounds stupid. If not, fuck this whole language.

Yes, it is an improper "American English thing".

English is a beautiful language if you try to learn how to use it properly...

British people make up retarded sayings all the time, we can too.

also Brad is terrible at video games

@damswedon: It's incorrect in any incarnation of English. He likes it more, you can't like something better. You can think it's better, and therefore like it more.

@damswedon said:

Is this an American English thing?

No. It's just improper grammar. It's like the fact that a lot of people like to say "I did good on the test" rather than "I did well on the test."

@laserbolts said:

@Unknown_Pleasures

Letting Brad influence your purchasing decision so much is pretty dumb.

This. Even more dumb if the dude only got to level 3.

yeah, if he's only putting like 10 minutes into the game before deciding he doesn't like it then his opinion on any mmo isnt worth listening to.

@Trilogy said:

I really love the crew but I'm taking everything they say about this game with a grain of salt.

i'm not even listening to anything they say about it. considering they dislike mmo's and star wars its not much of a stretch to figure out that they wont like this game.

Yes and Ryan said he likes it and is going to keep playing, so, opinions ya know, go with what you feel.

@CrazyBagMan said:

Because of one man? Did you honestly expect this game to please every single person? This is a large portion of what's wrong with gaming as a hobby. Some people forget that it's about themselves having fun, not other people.

@damswedon said:

@CL60 said:

@ninjakiller said:

I heard it's a big meh. Stick with WoW if you're gonna mmo.

I like it a lot better than WoW.

Not picking on you just using this as a place to vent my feelings on this.

Is this an American English thing? Because I feel like I've been hearing it a lot on Giantbomb lately and it just sounds wrong. It's more right? "I like it a lot more than WoW" "I like the other one more" If this is an American English thing, STOP IT!! It sounds stupid. If not, fuck this whole language.

I hope you don't have a Facebook account. It must drive you crazy.

@Sooty: @spazmaster666: @TooWalrus: @Relys: @damswedon:

Just keep in mind that the whole crew has a pretty tremendous anti-MMO bias. If you like MMO's and you like Star Wars and you want a really well designed MMO that has a lot of Star Wars in it, than you'll like this game. If there is something about MMO's that you inherently don't like, you probably won't like this.

@CL60 said:

@ninjakiller said:

I heard it's a big meh. Stick with WoW if you're gonna mmo.

I like it a lot better than WoW.

Not picking on you just using this as a place to vent my feelings on this.

Is this an American English thing? Because I feel like I've been hearing it a lot on Giantbomb lately and it just sounds wrong. It's more right? "I like it a lot more than WoW" "I like the other one more" If this is an American English thing, STOP IT!! It sounds stupid. If not, fuck this whole language.

@mazik765 said:

Just keep in mind that the whole crew has a pretty tremendous anti-MMO bias. If you like MMO's and you like Star Wars and you want a really well designed MMO that has a lot of Star Wars in it, than you'll like this game. If there is something about MMO's that you inherently don't like, you probably won't like this.

what he said.

Brad doesnt put too much time into things before he decides if he likes things or not.

I'm liking it. It's KOTOR Online mostly. There is the story that can be played solo, or within a party, and some party quests. All the dialogue is given by voice. It's easy to think you're playing an rpg. It's nothing revolutionary in the gameplay, but it hides well the fact that it is an mmo, within the entrapings of a normal rpg.

If Brad really quit at level three i feel he didn't give the game a fair chance of showing what it is.

I HATE BRAD!!!!

Nah, he just should have known what he was getting into. Even right on the podcasts everyone made it pretty clear what this game was. I just feel bad he wasted 60 bucks on a game he has no interest in playing.

@SamDrugbringer: I have to agree with you, it seems like he had already decided that he didn't like the game before he even started playing it. I mean...level three is probably 20 minutes of play time.

I'm going to put it down now: you can only properly judge the game if you've at least finished Tatooine. At this point, the game exits the extremely linear questing design and opens up fairly significantly. Moreover, it marks a significant amount of time spent delving into your class' questline, and by this point, most classes have most of their core mechanics fully developed. For reference, Tatooine is level 24-28.

I would not expect an insightful early game review from Brad in either case. This simply doesn't seem like his genre.

I would say 20 min including character creation and watching the videos. My inquisitor was level 3 in at most 10.

@Trilogy said:

I really love the crew but I'm taking everything they say about this game with a grain of salt.

This. I respect the crew's opinions, but they've made it pretty clear they're not interested in where the Genere is right now, so it's no surprise they don't like this game.

@CrazyBagMan said:

Because of one man? Did you honestly expect this game to please every single person? This is a large portion of what's wrong with gaming as a hobby. Some people forget that it's about themselves having fun, not other people.

PREACH BROTHA, PREACH!!! AMEN!!!

@Turambar said:

@SamDrugbringer said:

@Trilogy said:

I really love the crew but I'm taking everything they say about this game with a grain of salt.

This. I respect the crew's opinions, but they've made it pretty clear they're not interested in where the Genere is right now, so it's no surprise they don't like this game.

Not even that. They just don't like Star Wars as they've stated pretty bluntly. Jeff said in a "let me try to be objective for just one sentence" way that they made a competent version of that type of game, so if you're into competent MMOs that don't stray far from post WoW MMO conventions, go for it I guess.

Yeah. Jeffs comments on the Giantbomb from a while ago were pretty well informed. He clearly didn't like the game (Which made me sad.) but he also said "If you like Star wars, and MMOs, they made that game." And I love both those things.